custom turbo application on 2001 EX civic
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custom turbo application on 2001 EX civic
ive got a 2001 ex (5speed) and im not satisfied with the minimal hp gains from my basic bolt -ns. my buddy with a 94 civic ex 5sp has just bought all of his turbo stuff, and we are installing it this weekend. he did a custom kit; eclipse downpipe and injectors, HF turbo manifold, fuel controller t-23 (i think), eclipse BOV, et cetera. it all totaled to about $500. granted i expect to pay more than $500 b/c my car is newer.
was anyone ever done a custom turbo kit on their 7thgen EX? would i have to get my downpipe and cat re-welded b/c with the EX's, the downpipe and cat are one huge "cane" shapped pipe. i've see sever turbo manifolds for sale on ebay, and such, and from there, all i'd need would be a side mount intercooler, piping, turbo, waste gate, BOV, oilreturn lines, et cetera. please help me out here i'd love to here feedback. this forum is my only resort b/c all the proshops havent dealt with the new 7th gens, and no one on dragva has a boosted 7thgen. so no one is of help, except this forum.
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was anyone ever done a custom turbo kit on their 7thgen EX? would i have to get my downpipe and cat re-welded b/c with the EX's, the downpipe and cat are one huge "cane" shapped pipe. i've see sever turbo manifolds for sale on ebay, and such, and from there, all i'd need would be a side mount intercooler, piping, turbo, waste gate, BOV, oilreturn lines, et cetera. please help me out here i'd love to here feedback. this forum is my only resort b/c all the proshops havent dealt with the new 7th gens, and no one on dragva has a boosted 7thgen. so no one is of help, except this forum.
i appreciate it.
-carson
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I've had the same thing in mind man, but its gonna be more expensive than $500 though I though I think, if not then definitely more complicated of a project to perform than on your friends 5th Gen. You're gonna have to find someone to custom make your manifold and down pipe to start with. Catalyst quoted me $800 for both.
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urs will cost way more than 500 bucks im sorry to tell you, u cant just have someone weld some pipes together and call it a manifold either, it takes alot more thought than that, what is a t-23 fuel controller, and as far as a side mount IC, where is that going to fit, much less recieve any air flow
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Rep Power: 0 "Was anyone ever done a custom...."
English please? howbout a search sphincter. i mean specter. LoL
Yes people have "ever done a custom" turbo kit hahaha.
And you must not be looking very hard , or well for that matter. There's a turbo manifold for our cars on ebay as we speak. I saw it last night. D17 manifold. why would you want a side mount i/c???
Read man. Just start readin'.
English please? howbout a search sphincter. i mean specter. LoL
Yes people have "ever done a custom" turbo kit hahaha.
And you must not be looking very hard , or well for that matter. There's a turbo manifold for our cars on ebay as we speak. I saw it last night. D17 manifold. why would you want a side mount i/c???
Read man. Just start readin'.
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Rep Power: 298 Originally posted by SpdRcrChk
"Was anyone ever done a custom...."
"Was anyone ever done a custom...."
Anyways, HKS makes a manifold and its only around 250$,
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Rep Power: 0 HKs make a manifold
SF makes a manifold
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MaxRev.. OBX even makes one for us now and it doesn't "look" half bad
but just about anyone with a welder and experince can make a manifold
with a welder and dremel tool you can do just about anything
you can do a kit for your car thou for around $1000-1300 thou.
just gotta search for the best prices
SF makes a manifold
Turbo discounters...
MaxRev.. OBX even makes one for us now and it doesn't "look" half bad
but just about anyone with a welder and experince can make a manifold
with a welder and dremel tool you can do just about anything
you can do a kit for your car thou for around $1000-1300 thou.
just gotta search for the best prices
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by SpdRcrChk
"Was anyone ever done a custom...."
English please? howbout a search sphincter. i mean specter. LoL
Yes people have "ever done a custom" turbo kit hahaha.
And you must not be looking very hard , or well for that matter. There's a turbo manifold for our cars on ebay as we speak. I saw it last night. D17 manifold. why would you want a side mount i/c???
Read man. Just start readin'.
"Was anyone ever done a custom...."
English please? howbout a search sphincter. i mean specter. LoL
Yes people have "ever done a custom" turbo kit hahaha.
And you must not be looking very hard , or well for that matter. There's a turbo manifold for our cars on ebay as we speak. I saw it last night. D17 manifold. why would you want a side mount i/c???
Read man. Just start readin'.
hey *******, lay off my ***. dont even bother posting in MY THREAD if your gonna be a ********. i didnt ask "who snoops around everyones thread for errors"....one gramatical error doesnt reflect my inteligence, moron.
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Rep Power: 336 at any rate, you'll only be able to run about 2lbs of boost with any kind of fuel system upgrade. So if you plan to run more than 2 lbs of boost, you need to add in fuel system whether you decided to go greddy e-manage, SF fuel kit, return-style fuel system, etc.
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Rep Power: 336 Originally posted by specter542
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hey *******, lay off my ***. dont even bother posting in MY THREAD if your gonna be a ********. i didnt ask "who snoops around everyones thread for errors"....one gramatical error doesnt reflect my inteligence, moron.
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Rep Power: 0 ^^^^^ good stuff. 
Oops....too late. 
No, you didnt. But you asked a question that could have been answered by just reading. 
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hey *******, lay off my ***. dont even bother posting in MY THREAD .
i didnt ask "who snoops around everyones thread for errors"....one gramatical error doesnt reflect my inteligence
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Rep Power: 0 on a side note, has anyone even tried to do a HF manifold on a d17? or any turbo maniofld for that matter thats for a dseries? are yall positive before you bend over and take it from HKS? im not much for d series so if you tell me to search you can suck my ****.
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or any turbo maniofld for that matter thats for a dseries?
a turbo exhaust manifold from a d16 or previous year d series will not fit a d17 on a 7th gen civic. like spdrcrchk said above, the flanges for the intake manifold and the exhaust mani dont line up at all. there have been a lot of custom manifolds made and what not so your not forced to buy a hks or sf one...
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Rep Power: 0 Thanks Cambo that's exactly what I was trying to explain.
B17...FYI: e/m means exhaust manifold.
And like Cambo said....what I was trying to say, is that neither the INTAKE manifold from D16's NOR the EXHAUST manifolds bolt up to our cars. Flanges are different. I'm not sure about the hole sizes or distances. But if THOSE are the same, theoretically you can just swap flanges outta any other manifold.
B17...FYI: e/m means exhaust manifold.
And like Cambo said....what I was trying to say, is that neither the INTAKE manifold from D16's NOR the EXHAUST manifolds bolt up to our cars. Flanges are different. I'm not sure about the hole sizes or distances. But if THOSE are the same, theoretically you can just swap flanges outta any other manifold.
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Rep Power: 607 Originally posted by SpdRcrChk
B17...FYI: e/m means exhaust manifold.
And like Cambo said....what I was trying to say, is that neither the INTAKE manifold from D16's NOR the EXHAUST manifolds bolt up to our cars. Flanges are different.
B17...FYI: e/m means exhaust manifold.
And like Cambo said....what I was trying to say, is that neither the INTAKE manifold from D16's NOR the EXHAUST manifolds bolt up to our cars. Flanges are different.
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Rep Power: 0 ok, back to the guys actual question, itll cost at least 2000 to do a custom turbo, i tried, and i tried, but thats the cheapest price if you want to make sure you have a car to drive the next day. heres what you need and the cheapest prices ive been able to find:
t3/t4 turbo-300
turbo exhaust manifold-250
turbo downpipe-350 (only one ive found is sf one)
intercooler-200
blow off valve-150
boost controller-100
oil lines-100
MAP sensor mod-50
boost gauge-100
piping-100
fuel system-600 (once again, only sf)
pretty much what am i telling you? save a bit more and get the sf kit. or go with bottle feed your car like im gonna do.
t3/t4 turbo-300
turbo exhaust manifold-250
turbo downpipe-350 (only one ive found is sf one)
intercooler-200
blow off valve-150
boost controller-100
oil lines-100
MAP sensor mod-50
boost gauge-100
piping-100
fuel system-600 (once again, only sf)
pretty much what am i telling you? save a bit more and get the sf kit. or go with bottle feed your car like im gonna do
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Rep Power: 0 There's a dude on ebay that sells Log Manifolds for the D17 for about $175.
You can have a downpipe made at local muffler shops, mandrel bent, for as cheap as $125.00
You can find a 1st gen DSM BOV for as cheap as $35-$60 online. It Will hold more than enough power, and can be crushed to hold upto 20psi or so if necessary (but I doubt anyone here does right now).
Boost gauges can be found on ebay for as cheap as $20-$50 depending on whether its used or new. Lots of companies on Ebay sell them new for about $50
You don't NEED alcohol injection. But you MIGHT need an FMU. Price for the fuel system is about right. But SF isn't the only one that offers one. There are many routes you can go. Either upgrade injectors (I hear the new STi's are about the same length as ours), Get an FMU, wait for hondata, or do the 2 extra injectors in the charge pipe w/alcohol injection deal. There's many things you can do for fuel believe it or not, but that, along piping will likely be the most costly parts.
You forgot to mention a wastegate (if the turbo isn't internally wastegated). Those will run you anywhere between $100 and $200. (You can pick up a brand new TIAL wastegate for about 200 on ebay).
Just remember that all the parts need not be bought by someone who pre-fabs a kit for our cars. I'm sure plenty of local muffler shops can hook you up with intercooler piping, down pipe, dump tube (if applicable), etc. And if you look really well...you can save tons of cash by buying parts online at Ebay or forums other than this one. I've found Honda-Techs forced induction classifieds section to offer a plethora of parts at great prices.
You can have a downpipe made at local muffler shops, mandrel bent, for as cheap as $125.00
You can find a 1st gen DSM BOV for as cheap as $35-$60 online. It Will hold more than enough power, and can be crushed to hold upto 20psi or so if necessary (but I doubt anyone here does right now).
Boost gauges can be found on ebay for as cheap as $20-$50 depending on whether its used or new. Lots of companies on Ebay sell them new for about $50
You don't NEED alcohol injection. But you MIGHT need an FMU. Price for the fuel system is about right. But SF isn't the only one that offers one. There are many routes you can go. Either upgrade injectors (I hear the new STi's are about the same length as ours), Get an FMU, wait for hondata, or do the 2 extra injectors in the charge pipe w/alcohol injection deal. There's many things you can do for fuel believe it or not, but that, along piping will likely be the most costly parts.
You forgot to mention a wastegate (if the turbo isn't internally wastegated). Those will run you anywhere between $100 and $200. (You can pick up a brand new TIAL wastegate for about 200 on ebay).
Just remember that all the parts need not be bought by someone who pre-fabs a kit for our cars. I'm sure plenty of local muffler shops can hook you up with intercooler piping, down pipe, dump tube (if applicable), etc. And if you look really well...you can save tons of cash by buying parts online at Ebay or forums other than this one. I've found Honda-Techs forced induction classifieds section to offer a plethora of parts at great prices.
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Rep Power: 0 ^ is it this one? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33742 , cause if you look closely i dont think those bolt holes would match up to our engines.
