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Old Feb 3, 2004
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Rip off or good deal?

Alright so today I got a quote from the best engine place within an hour or so from here. I'm getting a complete engine rebuild, (lemme think.. pistons, rings, springs, valve job, port and polish, crank, cam, heads ported, bored out to 2.0, connecting rods, brass gaskets, and I feel like I'm forgetting some things but oh well), and the SF turbo kit (I'll be ordering it soon). The guy quoted me $7000 without the $3100 for the turbo. So I guess probably around $10,500ish altogether for everything installed..

I don't know much about how much engine work costs so is this a good deal or no? If it is, I'm gonna drop my car off probably after the end of the month so he can start working on it.
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Goto www.dh-racing.com They have some of the best work around for fair prices.

Hell, their full race-ready, 9 sec capable LSvtec motor for $4500, and only $7200 for a complete swap (older civics of course)

The Monster Everyone Is Talking About. The Sky Is The Limit With This Beast

*Complete long block, does not include turbo...

Motor comes bored, honed, hot tanked, decked and fully blueprinted. Oversized Low Compression Arias Pistons, Eagle/Stock Rods. Ported Head with 3 angle Valve job.

Full Swap is available for $7200 coming with ported intake manifold, 72MM bore throttle body, mounts, tranny, ECU, lightened flywheel, 6 puck clutch, and a Dh-Racing Power Pulley that provides dyno proven 10%WHP alone.

I know this motor doesnt work in our cars withou a lot of modifications, but just imagine how cheap a built D17 would be from them?
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ok, i forgot to scroll down the page further.

D17 Longblock Or Full Swap

What all you new gen civic owners have been waiting for. The options for your D17. It's been here at Dh-Racing the entire time. We offer anything from valvetrain upgrades, to welded differentials for your motors. This is the completely built longblock. It comes with high compression 10.8:1 pistons, stock rods (Optional upgraded rods for $450), full race ported head, polished high flow valves, and polished combustion chambers.

CORE MOTOR IS REQUIRED, BUT INQUIRE WITHIN ABOUT US PROVIDING THE MOTOR FOR YOU (MAY CAUSE A DELAY IN SHIPMENT).

Options for this motor consist of, Racing Valve Springs ($200), Titanium Retainers ($175), Dh-Racing Camshaft ($350), Dh-Racing Crank Pulley ($150), Lightened Flywheel (Core Required)($100), 6 Puck Clutch ($130), Built Pressure Plate ($225). Tell one and tell and Dh-Racing is your one stop D17 shop.

Price is just for the longblock, all bolt-ons are listed as priced above.
I am sure you could also get this in a turbo version.
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Hmm, I don't know.. I think after I add the prices of everything with the $2700 they're asking for, it would be about the same? Maybe I just can't think very well because it's 4am lol
ahh I wish I had more money to work with because hello k20 ha I saw it on the site and I'm just like *drooooool*
Anyways.. more feedback!
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i this dude u know makeing everything i mean a crank and springs and a brass head gasket, if this is for a d17 who is making all this stuff that i dont know about
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I don't know what the brands are. The guy just said he could get it for me.. but once I find out, I'll let you know
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Sounds like he is charging you alittle more than he should. He is probably making money off of each product that he puts into your engine. Also, it looks like most of the charges are labor. Like Catylst said, check out DH-Racing. Josh is a cool guy and will answer any questions that you have. And with all that work you are having done, he may give you a small discount.
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The key would be to make sure you get your dollars worth and just cause he says hes getting you this or that, make sure its in writing what hes getting you and then tell him you want to take pictures of the build up! This will keep it on the up and up. But like Catalyst suggested DH-racing specialize in hondas and may be a better idea.
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that long block from dh racing with all of the upgrades only comes to 4480 dollars so just add install and turbo on top of that and it sounds like dh would be alot cheaper.
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does DH include new cam, crank, head gasket like the type he is refering too, and bore out to 2.0, are u sure u wanna go that much, ur not going to have any cylinder walls left
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i'd say...rip off!!!!
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I still haven't gotten around to calling the guy about those parts. But tomorrow for SURE I'm stopping in there to talk to him. I'm also gonna call DH Racing and see what's up and if I can get a good price.
C2i0v0i1C - Cylinder walls? Who needs those? pssshhh *sarcasm*
Ehhh, I don't know, I haven't really decided 100%
Another question: Okay, let's say I do the DH Racing thing.. who's gonna swap the engine out and put the new one in for me? I don't really have the tools or the time for that..
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You bring it down to Toledo, Ohio and my buddy's will do it in their shop "Showdownmotorsports" in one weekend.

http://www.showdownmotorsports.com/
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As i recall the Guy from DH-racing that post here alot mentioned in another post something about boring and stoking the D17 wouldnt be nearly as benificial as doing other mods. Unless you were wanting EXTREME HP or something to that effect.
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You bring it down to Toledo, Ohio and my buddy's will do it in their shop "Showdownmotorsports" in one weekend.

http://www.showdownmotorsports.com/


u got any picts of their stuff, i cant seem to find anything on the site, no picts, is the site done, or still under construction
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Originally posted by tfnaaf
As i recall the Guy from DH-racing that post here alot mentioned in another post something about boring and stoking the D17 wouldnt be nearly as benificial as doing other mods. Unless you were wanting EXTREME HP or something to that effect.
Maybe I'm just dumb but what other engine mods could you do to get some serious whp other than an engine swap in our cars?
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C2, it doesnt matter, Corey and Jon from our club slowmotion, will be doing the install AT Showdownmotorsports. Corey has received a job there for install's, for the time he is in school. We are sort of sponsored by them. Due to the fact that Corey is up here at School in Toledo and Jon and come her easily. Aside all of this, the motor will be installed perfectly with our skill level. And I think I would have your consent (C2) as you have seen our work. No one has to have work done by us, but we are highly confident and will complete the job to the best of our ability. 500$ and not getting your hands dirty....
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im not doubting, all i said was the website didnt have ne thing there
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