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Simple quesiton... what puts out more power?

TypeS swap with i/h/e

or

Sf Turbo EX

?
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i say swap !
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well its questionable...

ill tell you this tho... i can toast a RSX-S with an I/H/E and probally alot more...

unless u turbo ur type S.. i dont think ur keeping up...

well thats just my 2 cents
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Originally posted by OsOBooSTeD


ill tell you this tho... i can toast a RSX-S with an I/H/E and probally alot more...
i remember awile back a guy with a sf turboed ex posted a vid. it was black with bodykit/17s, dont remember who it was. anyway, in the vid he was about even with the type s. so i duno?
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if he was even then he was only running about 5 psi if that much then...

and i do know.
i have raced several so im not pulling this info out my *** kid.
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I have to agree with osoboosted ^^^, im pretty sure a FI civic running anything above 6psi could take a S. That being said, the S will make more power, without internal work, when it gets turbo or supercharged.
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The swap will put out more power, but how much psi is the turbo vic running? Now if your going turbo to turbo, the S hands down.
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does anyone remember who this guy is, so we can ask em? all i know is it was black with bodykit/rims, and the title on the vids is RSC productions?
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Originally posted by Green Civic
The swap will put out more power, but how much psi is the turbo vic running? Now if your going turbo to turbo, the S hands down.
ok this is gonna start pissing me off so no one say it again. i didnt say anything about turbo type s! thank u
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I have an idea...how about we get some HP and TQ numbers for a type S with IHE (club RSX should have that info I would suspect) and compare them with the numbers our turbo guys are putting down (I'm sure I could find a few threads from catalyst witht hat info). Then it's not an opinion or speculation. And we could answer civic30's question.
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Yup, the swap will put out more power.......a Type S is 200 hp, right ? And the Type R is 220....... So, with I/H/E, u are looking at about 210 for the Type S. A EX with SF was dyno'ed at 189 hp, if i remember correctly at 8psi.
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ok why dont u get some real type s numbers cause while its 200hp its not WHP... its like 160 whp. I/H/E ... maybe then ur up to 175-180...

if im running 11psi .. ur telling me ur gonnna beat me?

u guys dont even have a turbo'd vic and ur commenting..

AND THE VIDEO WAS ROBS.
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Originally posted by civic30
does anyone remember who this guy is, so we can ask em? all i know is it was black with bodykit/rims, and the title on the vids is RSC productions?
did he do a goofy smile in the begining of the video, if yes, then its robbusaf, lol
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Originally posted by OsOBooSTeD


u guys dont even have a turbo'd vic and ur commenting..

AND THE VIDEO WAS ROBS.
I'm sorry, i'll keep my comments to myself then and let all of u boosted members give ur opinions.
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turbo ex definitely makes more power. HP isn't everything ... it's the torque
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Originally posted by civic01vtec
Yup, the swap will put out more power.......a Type S is 200 hp, right ? And the Type R is 220....... So, with I/H/E, u are looking at about 210 for the Type S. A EX with SF was dyno'ed at 189 hp, if i remember correctly at 8psi.
possibly the dumbest thing ive ever heard on a forum. just never comment again buddy


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and why is that dumb, i realized after i posted that that i was wrong and that wasnt' at the wheels.
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u made a mistake lets move on. its just that next time be sure before u say something like that because most likely ull get flamed for it.
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so does any1 know what psi rob was runnin in that race?
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I'll have to say "must be 5psi". At 4.5 psi I beat my friend's 14 sec GSX as soon as I hit 2nd gear. Type-s's are quick, but at 5 I can usually beat 'em. The mid range pull is just awesome. Plus turbos can be upgraded... for the cost of a type-s swap, you could still afford to upgrade the internals to your d17 to handle about 12-15psi. I wanna see a daily driven all-motor type-s even try to keep up with that...
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Re: Simple quesiton... what puts out more power?

Originally posted by civic30
TypeS swap with i/h/e

or

Sf Turbo EX

?
How many lbs of boost is the car going to be running, 7-8 psi? A turbo civic should win. If the rsx has i/h/e and hondata it'll be close. I've seen bolt-ons running high 13's. Which is right around the same time as the fastest d17, 13.6. It basically a driver race if the rsx had boltons with hondata.
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remember catalyst did 13.6 at 3000ft elevation, his civic is a lot faster now and probably does 12's. I know i can take a type s that has i/h/e with no problem
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Guys the TODA RSX put damn close to 200 to the wheels with I/H/E. With an engine kit (ECU, Camshafts, Valve Springs) 225 hp. And all motor Type-S's with pistons and internals have hit 263 on a dyno with still more elemnts to tune.

Money for money: Turbo

But the Type S has many more options out there for you.

TODA Link-

http://www.todaracing.com/products/h...ngine_kit.html

And the All Motor is in the November Honda Tuning.
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that kit is 2,300. So, lets say that u do the swap for 6 g's, that is over 8,000 plus it only produces 155 ft/lbs of torque. A stock EX with the SF kit was chassis dyno'ed at 183 ft/lbs at 8 psi.
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183 ft lbs? Damn man. Didn't know it was that high.
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Originally posted by civic30
possibly the dumbest thing ive ever heard on a forum. just never comment again buddy


..and beyonce' is f*ckin nasty
THIS is the the dumbest thing i ever heard. if you knew how much HP a type-s throws down with i/h/e then why the f*ck are you asking if a turbo can beat it?? what you should of asked is how much PSI would you need to beat one or something along those lines, so DO NOT act like you know it all when its crystal clear that you DONT! cuz i'm sure if you knew it all you would have seen that little flashing red link at the top of the screen that says SEARCH!. you should learn not to flame someone whos trying to help you noob
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btw.. who runs at 5psi ? 10-11psi was the majority imo
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/\/\/\ haha. In that video rob said he was running low psi, he raced a 350z for fun and that was pretty cool kept up quite well. Type S at the wheels horsepower has 163.8hp not sure about torque that's what import tuner said when doing theyre dynos. As far as the TODA comment how much is the Toda kit I know it's gotta be quite expensive but that's the way it is with N/A.
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