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Im so sick of you man

You think your the **** cause you got a turbo d17a1, WITH NO BUILT INTERNALS?

DC5@EM2 is the man............not you!

 
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im not braggin and not being cocky... just talking good about SF power... great product.. and its a 75 shot that doubles our torque.. and nitrous is NOWHERE near as reliable or safe as turbo, as long as turbo is done well and is tuned right... also, i have yet to see ANYONE but the SF guys (cat & I) post sub 14.0 times.. i just dont like nitrous.. its tempoiroray and most people dont know how to use it ... if you hate me, your jealous cause mosdt people think im nice.. i just know my ****.. hurts doesnt it...... you guys are just newbies mostly that dont know much.. this is my 6th honda... ive been in this for over 12 years... since i was 14 working on my friends 4thgen with B16 and a 50 shot.. maybe nitrous does make nice power.. but its not always there, and still cant post the timeslips as fast as turbo...

 
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Any guy thats been into honda for 12 years, would know to never blow money building up a d17a1.

A real tuner would be into the K20's...........You should talk to DC5@EM2, about how to REALLY build a EM2 Civic.

 
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I only like nitrous to cool down my intake charge. Im going to use maybe a 35 shot. It spools the turbo up instantly, and makes about 70% more power with a turbo than on an NA car just due to the cooling effect.

 
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so youre saying dave hickman doesnt know how to buyld a CRX becaseu he has stock motor.. even though he runs 12's... its not the engine .. its what you do to it.. DC5 has a REALLY tight car.. but he also has about 20k under the hood.. not really comparable cars....

 
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Oh yea, RSX is a turbo enthusiast. Dont yell at him because of it!

The guy does know what he is talking about. Just ask him about his past cars, and what he had under the hood.

 
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Why does everybody come on here to hate. Everybody should be able to do their own thing without someone else's destructive criticism. Understand... it's not your car. So why do you care. Also, a real tuner would not just be into K20's. It's drop in power. A real tuner would take their time and effort to TUNE an engine to see what it's capable of and it's limits.

And any person that has been into Hondas for 12 years, would know that you always have to try something DIFFERENT, and not stick to the same old **** that the guy at the end of the street is doing.

 
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ok.. the people that know what theyre talking about are finally on the thread... nice to see some members with clout have my side.. even a moderator.. hmmm.. think im un-owned.... LOL

 
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uturersxswap- is right turbo it to see just what the D17 can do. As for the so called "Real Tuners" it is all in the eye of the beholder. Tune the thing how you want to. Yes swaps are nice, but how far an a sohc go??? makes it a little more interesting. hmmm

 
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from your other posts, you seem to brag about being one of 2 7th gens on the board that has gotten sub 14 1/4s. i can guarantee you that you arent the fastest 7th gens. im almost positive people have pushed 12 second 1/4s in a 7th gen civic, albiet probably not off the original motor. although im sure someone out there has pushed a low 13 in a d17 already.

its only a 50 shot that will double torque. not 75. read this article 50 shot d17

i dont hate you at all, and why would i be jealous if im driving a car that costs a good 12k more than a civic (if we are reducing this to car status)?

and, like i said, who cares if i dont have power all the time (in a nitrous civic). when im at the track, i could run an entire pass without shutting off nitrous if i had a built motor.

call me a newbie all you want, but you can rest assured im not.

 
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yeah.. your car costs 12k more... and with that 12k i can hit 11s... andf still pay $60 a month for insurance... and even if you keep that car stock.. you will need new tranny every 50k.. clutch every 30k.. nice car.. REALLY not making fun of it... two guys in myclub have em.. one runs 12s... just i HATE working on them, subaru doesnt back them up with warran when modded.. and the insurance is WAY toiooo high.. plus, i like the surprise effect.. no b.s. here.. i just cant let someone tell newbies they can have a 200 shot and expect theirr motor to last AT ALL...having power all the time is more fun... thats probly why you gave up your vic and bought a turbo car.. agreed... LATER

 
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actually, the reason i gave up the civic was because of ny winters and my previous experiences of rocking back and forth for an hour just to escape a parking lot. i chose the wrx over the 2.5rs because the 2.5rs costs waaay too much to modify (when i do decide to start modding). my car is auto. i wont need a new tranny for a long long time, and i dont have a clutch. if i get into serious racing with this car, ill just upgrade the torque converter and valve body. btw im paying 2k less on insurance for the wrx than i was on my civic.

with 12k you can hit 11s, but im almost positive you cant take it out on the streets legally. in that aspect, why didnt you buy an old chevy or ford, drop a crate motor into it, and have a 10 second car for less than the price of a new civic?

im still sticking with my assertion that after 30k miles your motor will be toast.

 
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The 12k argument goes out the window with two words:

Resale Value

Secondly, many of the turbo owners have problems NOW.

Matt

 
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well.. i have no problems and wont, cause mine is installed correctly... as with any mail order part... some people will mess up the install.. and i dont know of anyone with a bad experience with SF.. the other companies falt out suck from what everyone has said so far.. and not to be an *** or anything.. but i dont see it being possible to p[ay less for insurance on a WRX than a civic.. and yours is automatic.. i have seen severall run the 1/4 mile.. most with mods.. NONE below a 15.2... so suffiec

 
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so suffice it to say you will never beat me in a race.. since i am ruinning 13.80 with only about 3.5k into the motor and on bad street legal tires... i just said the 12k as an example since you said youre car cost moremoney.. all i really need is about 4k more for fully built motor and injectors etc... then i can dip 12's on good tires.. that in a WRX automatic = MIRACLE... especially since i can take a lot of WRXS now... even some withg utec and bolt ons etc...

 
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Build motor and turbo dont be pu......


unless u runnin 10/11s yer slow ;D

 
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ive seen a stock WRX make it to the 14's, 15+ just means they dont know how to drive, as far as his insurance is concerned.....

sedan=lower insurance
coupe=higher insurance

this is a way off topic, but has anyone here ever been to the SEMA show, im going to the one in VEGAS the first week in november


also futurersx never say never

 
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Talk so much ****????? How do you figure im talking **** by saying its a waste to turbo the d17??????

Were talking about an engine that runs the 1/4 in 17 seconds on a 2500 lb chassis.

 
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what one person cherishs may be obsolete to another

some (most) people dont buy their cars with the intent to fully build and turbo/supercharge i sure didnt, i had my car for 2 years before i even thought about doing what i did, i bought it with the intent of MPG and gettting to and from school. and i had to have a new car, bc my old one broke.

the pure joy of it all is taking a 17 second car and making it into a 10,11,12,13,14 second car.

take a 03 cobra supercharged and make it run 11,12....yippie harah, no fun there.

 
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dam futurexswap get over yourself. I have dyno graphs of a nx 50 shot on a 01 civic ex showing doubled the tourqe to the wheels. Nitrous can be just as safe as turbo its all in the setup and good tuning. I not saying i kno everything like you think you do but i kno enough to teach you a lesson. Your car running on stock internals with the psi your running is stupid and im not gonna be surprized when you post how your engine blew up. Your just ignorant and when ur **** goes wrong you will learn your lesson.

By the way dont hurt anybody with your knowlege
You think you know ur **** but you really dont

 
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thats a big last sentence there bro

 
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This is a little off topic but.....

I did, my 1985 corvette TT project!


Anyway, you can build ANY motor. It just takes 3 things.... Money, knowledge, and skill. I can build a 700 whp D17 right now, if i had the money. Instead i am taking my 700 whp block and detuning it to about 350 whp and leaving it there.

Like i said, my block will handle 700 whp. I just dont have the $$ to pay dave for my titanium alloy rods and custom pistons. They are $1500 for 1 rod and 1 piston. Instead im making it able to handle about 300-350 whp daily driven.

If anyone doesnt believe me, i dont care. Ill just go over to Dave's house and stare at it for a little while. It will make me feel much better.

 
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Do u guys remember this.......Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics, even if u win, ur still retarded. My point is, that u guys are wasting ur time. We all are on this website to support each other in their rides and offer advice, not to argue who knows more or who is faster or to flame each other. This is why i am contemplating on leaving this site, cuz nobody supports each other. Whenever someone post a pic of their car, everyone jumps in and say "it's rice" or "i don't like it". Just bite ur tongue and say, good job. Who cares what u think, i know i don't. This flamming and arguing **** has to stop. Everyone acts like a bunch of ****in babies. We all drive civics on here, so let's help each other out and offer advice instead of an argument.

 
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thats good humor right there

 
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wow you are so wrong its unbelievable. for a 12 second automatic wrx you need a grand total of 4k dollars.

go
here
and look up the stage 4 package
or
here
and look at the stage 5 package. oh yea and download the vid of the street legal, daily driven automatic wrx w/ stage 5 from ultimate racing and watch it running very low 12s. then go cry.
download stg 5 vid here

if i did want to race you, and i really doubt i would have anything to prove, i could purchase 3 parts: an upgraded ecu, a turboback exhaust and a catless uppipe. I would be pushing 300 hp at the crank with proper tuning but i dont feel the need to prove that i can take a street civic.

oh and if youre beating a wrx w/ a utec and boltons, he either a) tuned it like a complete fool
or
b) cant drive for his life.

 
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the best drivers of stock wrx hit 14.1

 
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nice vids my04wrx
autos can still be fast

 
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no joke, and when you start to drop to the sub 11 second category, they really start to shine.

 
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ok.. thanks for the motor lesson.. toooo bad our D17s are hondas first jotor to be ALL forged internally.. im fine at my boost level, doubt you even know what it is for street daiuly driver... but yeah.. we can argue all night.. stage 5 probly is 10k + in parts alone.. so this is USELESS.. you wanna compare a 35k+ WRX to my civic.. thats fine.. have fun.. and i know a thing or two about WREX s man.. ive even workeed on a swap into an old 2.5RS.. those motors BREAK.. problems with them vover 500hp... even if built... and tuning SUX.. do what you want man.. but in 3 years your car will still be stock, and i will a;lready have a new car after i make this hit low 12s.. and that doesnt need stage 5.. that needs about 5k in parts for me.. and thats DAILY driver... totally fine.. no probs.. i know this cause ive done it with D16sthis is a honda forum.. talk apples to aplles comparison.. or go home....

 
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sorry.. not 10k in parts.. 7k+ for all the stuff you will need to run it right..front mount, wrapping.. fuel pump...bov with re-circulate.. etc....