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turbos with auto is better than with manual??

yes i did search first off, but my questions were answered with more questions
first off, is it true that it is better for turbos if you have an auto because you lose the boost when you shift in a manual? i really dont understand that statement, i could really use some help with turbos because im considering getting a swap + turbo + zex nitrous in a month or so
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also what the hell does spool mean thanks a lot!
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first of all, i am one of those people who believe if you don't know how it works, wait till you do before you add it to your car

spooling defines when the turbo is working, creating pressure, spinning.

automatics does not require the user to shift
user doesn't have to shift = does not have to let go of gas pedal
does not let go of gas pedal = may not have to blow off
no blow off = no lost of pressure

i don't believe it's a lot of pressure loss, when someone shifts anyway.

but as always, if i am wrong, please correct
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You can not run as much boost on the stock auto tranny without a cooler for the tranny.
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no offense and not trying to flame, but if you dont know what turbo spool is i highly doubt youre capable of running a swap, turbo and nitrous. if you do though, make sure to put extra welds on the intake otherwise itll be curtains
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Originally posted by 01WingsWestCivic
no offense and not trying to flame, but if you dont know what turbo spool is i highly doubt youre capable of running a swap, turbo and nitrous. if you do though, make sure to put extra welds on the intake otherwise itll be curtains

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haha not to mention... what swap are u doin thats gonna be an automatic? just curious.. and if its a k20.. with a turbo.. what makes u think u need NOS ? cause the cybernation kit (top of the line one ) is 12k and it puts out 500hp. so my question is .. with the swap , turbo and nos.... where are u tryin to go with the car? to the moon?
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you dont really lose much boost in a manual when you shift (if you do it right), because that is what the BOV does. It relieves the pressure in the pipes so the turbo keeps spinning at the same speed. So when you put your foot back to the floor, the airflow is still the same, and the pressure rises almost instantly.
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so an auto is better for turbo ???
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ah crap! so your saying if i keep my foot on the gas during shifts in an auto i wont hear a BOV?? NOOOO!!!!!!! besides the huge *** increase in HP, the BOV sound is the 2nd reason i want a turbo...i know its sad but its true, lol
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my point exactly everybody loves the turbo because of the sound it makes from the bov
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Originally posted by Voiceofid
first of all, i am one of those people who believe if you don't know how it works, wait till you do before you add it to your car

spooling defines when the turbo is working, creating pressure, spinning.

automatics does not require the user to shift
user doesn't have to shift = does not have to let go of gas pedal
does not let go of gas pedal = may not have to blow off
no blow off = no lost of pressure

i don't believe it's a lot of pressure loss, when someone shifts anyway.

but as always, if i am wrong, please correct
thanks, yeah i know i dont know jack to well, but still i want it.
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Originally posted by OsOBooSTeD
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haha not to mention... what swap are u doin thats gonna be an automatic? just curious.. and if its a k20.. with a turbo.. what makes u think u need NOS ? cause the cybernation kit (top of the line one ) is 12k and it puts out 500hp. so my question is .. with the swap , turbo and nos.... where are u tryin to go with the car? to the moon?
exactly, you

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Yes, an auto would be better if you were a hardcore drag racer. Now if you want to do this on a honda auto tanny good luck, I dont have info to back it up but I'm pretty sure honda auto tranny's are pretty weak. Everything would need to be upgraded bushings and washers, clutches, plates, torque converter, higher stall, OMG to much to list. But go ahead and try I would love to see the results. But really, I think you should build your car with the k.i.s.s. philosophy

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If you know how to build the auto tranny, and select the proper gearing, then the auto would be better. But, the stock honda auto has bad gearing and is not very strong. So therefore, on a stock honda, the manual will be better and produce faster 1/4 mile times.

BTW, everytime you let off the gas, the BOV will go off. Dont worry, you will still have the cool sound.
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actually, i like the sound of my turbo spooling up even better...sounds like a mini jet engine...
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ok, so i have to jack a tranny too then eh?
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BTW, everytime you let off the gas, the BOV will go off. Dont worry, you will still have the cool sound.
whoo-hoo!! got a little worried there, hehe.
what kind of 1/4 times do you estimate for an AT?
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Catalyst is right, you will still hear the bov when you let off the gas, but when your drag racing in an auto it shifts so fast that you will hear next to nothing.
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You'll have to know what you doing when shifting a manual.(specialy w/all that power)
and yes I found out that our automatic trany will need a lot of work before you put so much torqe to it or will fall appart.
Even the manual trany will go Kapput if you keep it on on gear for to long and red line.

Just get an electronic BOV and Nitrous you'll fool the dommies
Swap, nitrous and turbo
Why did you just bought an RSX?
If you have all that money, it'll be less agrivation and a lot cheaper too.
And if you lack the know how to operate your car with all that custom stuff you will end up hating your car and wasting alot of money.
Once you get tubos and all that, maintenace gets to be something you do almost daily to keep all your investmnet in good shape.
I think you are way over your head (not flaming, but be for real)

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Originally posted by Supermex
You'll have to know what you doing when shifting a manual.(specialy w/all that power)
and yes I found out that our automatic trany will need a lot of work before you put so much torqe to it or will fall appart.
Even the manual trany will go Kapput if you keep it on on gear for to long and red line.

Just get an electronic BOV and Nitrous you'll fool the dommies
Swap, nitrous and turbo
Why did you just bought an RSX?
If you have all that money, it'll be less agrivation and a lot cheaper too.
And if you lack the know how to operate your car with all that custom stuff you will end up hating your car and wasting alot of money.
Once you get tubos and all that, maintenace gets to be something you do almost daily to keep all your investmnet in good shape.
I think you are way over your head (not flaming, but be for real)
im trying to flame either but i dont like it when people answer my questions with "why didn't you just get an rsx"

well BECASUE I DONT LIKE HOW THEY look. i only like thier power. plus there is no way in hell im am going to get out of my car because someone behind me wantss to get out, damn coups. thats why i have a sedan. it would be more expensive to get an rsx brecause they cost (dont know too much about prices so correct me if im wrong) 17,000 i got my civic for 9,000 (6th gen no new crap for me ) plus say 6,000 for k20 there now i have 15,000 dollar car that i know i like and has enough room in the back for other ppl.
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Still man for that kind money you can get a number of other nice fast cars taht are out on the market.
But if you like 7thgen civics that much is all good.
I like mine and I like the factory price even better, but I would mind getting something better if I had more money.
Deffinately is you who's going to drive it so you have to make sure to be happy with it.
I'll like to see it when is done it will be the most radical vic around.
I'm working on my D17 internals for now and sometimes I feel I'm over my head.
Is a good thing I know some ppl that are good with cars and I'm getting much needed advice.
Some of the guys here are quite knowlegable and are helping me out with information.

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i'm turbo'ing my civic cuz its my hobby, though its kinda hard to make your project car your daily driver at the same time but it will sweet in the end. a car that can win at the track but yet you can still drive home sitting behind the wheel instead of hauling back on a trailor, better yet its a AT so its that much easier to drive..not that stick is all that hard. plus ever since fast and furious people have been bad mouth civics and hondas in general, i'm here to change that....
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Originally posted by 18secQuaterMile
ever since fast and furious people have been bad mouth civics and hondas in general, i'm here to change that....

18secQuaterMile, my new personal hero.
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Originally posted by 18secQuaterMile
i'm turbo'ing my civic cuz its my hobby, though its kinda hard to make your project car your daily driver at the same time but it will sweet in the end. a car that can win at the track but yet you can still drive home sitting behind the wheel instead of hauling back on a trailor, better yet its a AT so its that much easier to drive..not that stick is all that hard. plus ever since fast and furious people have been bad mouth civics and hondas in general, i'm here to change that....
You also get more respect by the serious car buffs when you drive your car daily.
I have an old accord for diving and I just love driving my car so much that I have the cord parked most of the time
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When you have a non-rice, fast honda.... the domestic guys give you respect. I hang out with a bunch of mustang guys after work now. One guy has a new SVT supercharger Cobra, who doesnt want to race me in front of a crowd because he knows he will lose. But thats cool, they cant take a shot like that in front of a whole bunch of people. They would lose respect from some of the ignorant people. The "rice" of the domestics. From now on, i will call them "corn". The "corn" domestics that run low 16's would say "yea, now i know i can beat a new cobra because it lost to a honda." Since they gave me their respect, i am doing the same.
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the guy that lives behind my house (opposite street) he also has an SVT cobra stang.. that thing is badd ***. red with the chrome cobra wheels. haha he refuses to race my cousin's mostly stock supra TT.
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catalyst, i think you should coin the term "corn". i think it works well as an opposite to rice for domestics
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Originally posted by Maverick
actually, i like the sound of my turbo spooling up even better...sounds like a mini jet engine...
It should. It's very close to how a jet engine operates. Except we dont dump fuel in to the turbos themselves (although some monster trucks do...along with a spark...it causes an explosion that forces even more air into the cylinder) we use use it to cram the air in...not force the air out the back for thrust. They do have turbine powered cars. They even have a turbine powered motorcycle. Jay Leno owns one...Pretty cool. I agree that the sound of the turbo spooling is waaaaaaay cooler than the BOV. My opinion at least.
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Get the Torque converter for the auto and a cooler and you will smoke the living daylights out of a manual with the same setup guaranteed.
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thats the reason why I might get a manual tranny in my car cost me 800 bucks for everything at a local junkyard, me and my friends are certified mechanics that will do it for free, I really love the way the BOV sounds, esp on the robbusaf's car OMG so sweet that vid.
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