About Those Hayame's
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About Those Hayame's
IF I NEED THOSE COILOVERS INSTALLED PROFESIONALLY, WHERE COULD I GO? I think it was Kenshin, who said he ordered his? R U installing them yourself? Would most shops know what they are doing on these coilovers? Maybe its not that big of a deal? Any thoughts? opinions? Installation wise are they any different than any other coilovers?
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yeah i did the install myself
most shops would install them they would charge anywhere from 80-160
and these are not different then any other coilover install. install is easy though becasue they are COMPLETE replacements.
most shops would install them they would charge anywhere from 80-160
and these are not different then any other coilover install. install is easy though becasue they are COMPLETE replacements.
Originally posted by KeNsHiN
^ i have it set lower then i had my ground controls and the ride is stiff but still koo............
sport......i heard that the spring rate is even stiffer
^ i have it set lower then i had my ground controls and the ride is stiff but still koo............
sport......i heard that the spring rate is even stiffer
So I bought them about a few minutes ago.
The reason why the spring rates are stiffer on the DC5 is simple - weight and weight distribution differences between the Civic and new Integra (as well as the EP3). The DC5 and EP3 are a bit heavier, thus it requires springs with a stiffer spring rate to do it's job. Because the Civic is lighter it'll take less weight to compress the spring per pound. A stiffer spring (say the Hayame's from the DC5) would allow the car to turn better but the ride WILL be rougher either way especially since the Tokico shock on them aren't adjustable. If the Civic Hayame struts are stiff enough for the stiffer RSX springs then the car will avoid the nasty looking ricer bounce but you will increase your chances of having that with the stiffer springs. As you know, riding on GCs/Skunk2s and stock struts don't match simply because:
a) Stiffer spring and softer struts DON'T mix. But stiff struts and soft springs do.
b) Hayame struts don't compress when you lower the ride height, which normally compromises with ride quality (not to mention the extra wear on the strut). Hayame's design is admirable for this which puts them a step above Tein's SS and B&G's setup AND especially the GC/Koni setup, but it's right under JIC-Magic. To learn more about this, read the review by Vnlilman on this site. All in all, your suspension won't bottom out.
For $650, this is a steal for me. If I paid a near $600 for Koni yellows, I'd be buying the Hayame with the benefit of stiffer springs and a more advanced way of adjusting the ride height and not compromising the use of the strut. Add $230 I paid for my GCs and that's $880 (add an extra $100 for the GC install cuz I was lazy). It's a fvcking steal as it retails for $1,000.
That's all I have to say.
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I read that long review on them, and when I heard that they adjust like JIC's, I was sold... (as well as okay-ing the spring rates.)
So I bought them about a few minutes ago.
I read that long review on them, and when I heard that they adjust like JIC's, I was sold... (as well as okay-ing the spring rates.)
So I bought them about a few minutes ago.
Who's you get them from? which one won your business?
Originally posted by Chicohonda02
Who's you get them from? which one won your business?
Who's you get them from? which one won your business?
What sucks is that I was one of the first to see the recent GB thread posted about it and I became the first order after his last set of Hayame coilovers. It's all good... he'll be back in stock later this week.
The JIC's retail for $1985, but you should be able to find them for as low as $1500-$1600 in most places. If you chose them for your ES1/EM2 YOU MUST BUY THE EP3 SET, NOT THE DC5 SET for it to bolt on.
The FLT-A2s by JIC are better than the Hayame - well, they're almost in another class since the JICs offer dampening adjustment and a camber plate for the front. It also offers a pillowball uppermout but I hear those aren't necessary for street cars.
I still plan on getting a better full coilover set-up. Hayame is nothing but a vessel to help me get to that point. If not to JIC, then Zeal.
The FLT-A2s by JIC are better than the Hayame - well, they're almost in another class since the JICs offer dampening adjustment and a camber plate for the front. It also offers a pillowball uppermout but I hear those aren't necessary for street cars.
I still plan on getting a better full coilover set-up. Hayame is nothing but a vessel to help me get to that point. If not to JIC, then Zeal.
Originally posted by KeNsHiN
^made for the ep3 and dc5 not us...........
^made for the ep3 and dc5 not us...........
Yeah, on endlessusa.com, it's only out for the Acura RSX... at least their V6 model... which is the one I was interested in.
Spring rates are 10k front, 10k rear. $2490.
Originally posted by AntDeezy
RSX V6 ?!?!
RSX V6 ?!?!
Personally I wouldn't mind a stiff suspension as long as I can adjust the dampening. On the street, I don't run super low profile tires so the wheels won't be sending vibrations to the car's chassis through the wheels as badly.
****, I want my motherfvcking coilovers!
****, I want my motherfvcking coilovers!
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