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Old Nov 4, 2003
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I think that link is gonna steal all my thunder....
My apology as this wasn't my intention.

I do however have a question that I couldn't find in the link though.

Is it possible to legally register a vehicle as a "Kit" car or another manufacturer. The reason for this would be if the owner modified the vehicle engine but did not meet the emission requirements of the OEM car or completely swapped the engine of the car.

I know there is a lot of "the engine has to be the same year or newer" floating around on this site. But what if the owner were to register the car legally under the DMV and Insurance company as a "Kit" car or the brand of the car that the engine was swapped to.

Is this legally possible?
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I'll look into it...that may be something you'll wanna call the dmv for but I will see what I can find
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i think the DMV considers that a 'reconditioned' (RECON) vehicle

from what i remember from the days of working at the Arizona State Emissions Facility, the vehicle would have the body-style listed as a RECON...when we tested the vehicles, they would have to comform AND be equipped to the standards of that vehicles 'motor year'

ie...if i have a sandrail, and i put a chevy small-block in it, (whatever year) it would have to have all of the emission devices on it that that 'motor year' would call-out for

i think that i remember something about the fact that the motor did have to be the same year or newer...not too sure though, this was years ago, so things may have changed since then
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Originally posted by FALKEN
i think the DMV considers that a 'reconditioned' (RECON) vehicle

from what i remember from the days of working at the Arizona State Emissions Facility, the vehicle would have the body-style listed as a RECON...when we tested the vehicles, they would have to comform AND be equipped to the standards of that vehicles 'motor year'

ie...if i have a sandrail, and i put a chevy small-block in it, (whatever year) it would have to have all of the emission devices on it that that 'motor year' would call-out for

i think that i remember something about the fact that the motor did have to be the same year or newer...not too sure though, this was years ago, so things may have changed since then
What you said makes good sense. I thought I might have gotten out of the emission laws when I recently bought my house in Maricopa. I live 15 miles south of Firebird Raceway and had plans to rebuild, modify, and race my 74 Camaro. Unfortunately I still have to abide by the emission laws for Phoenix. Maybe I'll just build a sand rail.

Thanks for your response!
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Okay so I have a question....

I was wondering the AZ law on high beams on a divided highway such as I-17 between Flag and PHX. So here is what I understand as was taught to me way back in the day in OR. On a divided highway there is no requirement to dim your hi-beams for on-comming traffic, given that you have legal hi-beams and there is a division between seperate directions of traffic (like Jersey barriers, or strip of foliage/shrubbery. What does the great state of AZ have to say about this?

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Originally posted by ponyman
Okay so I have a question....

I was wondering the AZ law on high beams on a divided highway such as I-17 between Flag and PHX. So here is what I understand as was taught to me way back in the day in OR. On a divided highway there is no requirement to dim your hi-beams for on-comming traffic, given that you have legal hi-beams and there is a division between seperate directions of traffic (like Jersey barriers, or strip of foliage/shrubbery. What does the great state of AZ have to say about this?

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This is what I found. There is no mention to your exact situation though.

28-942. Multiple beam road lighting equipment usage

If a motor vehicle is operated on a roadway or shoulder adjacent to a roadway during the times provided in section 28-922, the driver shall use a distribution of light or composite beam that is directed high enough and that has sufficient intensity to reveal persons and vehicles at a safe distance in advance of the vehicle, subject to the following requirements and limitations:

1. If a driver of a vehicle approaches an oncoming vehicle within five hundred feet, the driver shall use a distribution of light or composite beam aimed so that the glaring rays are not projected into the eyes of the oncoming driver. The lowermost distribution of light or composite beam provided in section 28-941, paragraph 2 is deemed to avoid glare at all times, regardless of road contour and loading.

2. If the driver of a vehicle follows another vehicle within two hundred feet to the rear, except when engaged in the act of overtaking and passing, the driver shall use a distribution of light permissible under this article other than the uppermost distribution of light specified in section 28-941, paragraph 1.
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I know what you're talking about...I need the brights sometimes on that drive but I dont wanna blind the oncoming people either. If you got a ticket for that you could prolly fight it because its not outlined well in the statutes. Its just something of a common courtesy. Dont plan on getting pulled over for it.
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Thanks man,

I make the drive a couple of times a month and it is just a bad road (animal wise) and I like to be able to see, but I get flashed every once in awhile and in OR I would be fine, I just was wondering what AZ thought.
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I've been wondering for awhile, just out of general curiosity and because my dad couldn't answer it [him being an ex-cop and all], what is the law for neons? I've heard so many different things about what colors are illegal, if its really illegal to drive with them on or cops just hate it..so can someone please just kinda explain everything?
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I'll have to check but I think you cant have the neons on while driving
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when driving in the dark...can i run with my parking lights and a set of driving lights, or do i need to have my headlights on also (driving lights are amber)
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What kind of a ticket will I get if I'm nailed watching Girls Gone Wild (edited version of course) on my in-dash while driving?
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I think that is a public indecency ticket. Not sure if AZ is busting people for that quite yet though.
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is this legal...just some retard with a light bar on his jeep??
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I'm pretty sure that is about as illegal as you can get
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AZ2K1Civic: can you answer some of these??
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Originally posted by Rufus
What kind of a ticket will I get if I'm nailed watching Girls Gone Wild (edited version of course) on my in-dash while driving?
If it is the edited version then you have nothing to worry about. If its not the edited version then you can be charged with sexual indecency...If other people can see it from outside the car.

There was a case where a couple guys in a blinged out Escalade were watching **** at night with the windows down and a family in a minivan pulled up next to them. The adults in the minivan had children in the car and called the police. Im pretty sure the guys in the Escalade were stopped and charged because the tv screens were in plain site.
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Originally posted by Alex053
is this legal...just some retard with a light bar on his jeep??
As long as its not a red/blue light bar it should be cool. Now, if he tries to pull people over with it then he's in a world of ****...impersonating a law enforcement officer.

Security companies use the yellow light bars on their vehicles like construction companies to warn people of their presence.
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Originally posted by FALKEN
when driving in the dark...can i run with my parking lights and a set of driving lights, or do i need to have my headlights on also (driving lights are amber)
These are the statutes I found that apply to your question JT...there are more too but I figured I would spare you

28-922. Lighted lamps required

At any time from sunset to sunrise and at any other time when there is not sufficient light to render clearly discernible persons and vehicles on the highway at a distance of five hundred feet ahead, a vehicle on a highway in this state shall display lighted lamps and illuminating devices as required by this article for different classes of vehicles, subject to exceptions for parked vehicles as provided in this article.

From this it looks ok to me as long as the lights you're using can be seen and illuminate to the specified distances in the statutes
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28-931. Lamp colors

A. Front clearance lamps and those marker lamps and reflectors mounted on the front or on the side near the front of a vehicle shall display or reflect an amber color.

B. Rear clearance lamps and those marker lamps and reflectors mounted on the rear or on the sides near the rear of a vehicle shall display or reflect a red color.

C. All lighting devices and reflectors mounted on the rear of any vehicle shall display or reflect a red color, except that:

1. The stoplight or other signal device may be red, amber or yellow.

2. The light illuminating the license plate or the light emitted by a backup lamp shall be white.

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28-941. Multiple beam road lighting equipment arrangement

Except as otherwise provided in this article, the head lamps, the auxiliary driving lamp or the auxiliary passing lamp or combinations of the head lamps, driving lamp or passing lamp on a motor vehicle other than a motor driven cycle shall be arranged so that selection may be made between distributions of light projected to different elevations, subject to the following requirements and limitations:

1. There shall be an uppermost distribution of light, or composite beam, so aimed and of sufficient intensity to reveal persons and vehicles at a distance of at least three hundred fifty feet ahead for all conditions of loading.

2. There shall be a lowermost distribution of light, or composite beam, so aimed and of sufficient intensity to reveal persons and vehicles at a distance of at least one hundred feet ahead, and under any condition of loading, none of the high intensity portion of the beam shall be directed to strike the eyes of an approaching driver.

3. A new motor vehicle, other than a motor driven cycle, that is registered in this state and that has multiple beam road lighting equipment shall be equipped with a beam indicator that is:

(a) Lighted when the uppermost distribution of light from the head lamps is in use and not otherwise lighted.

(b) Designed and located so that when lighted it is readily visible without glare to the driver of the vehicle.

4. A person shall not operate a motor vehicle with a colored transparent or translucent substance or material installed, affixed or applied on or in front of the head lamps, the auxiliary driving lamp or the auxiliary passing lamp or combinations of the head lamps, driving lamp or passing lamp that would obstruct, reduce or interfere with the visibility or effectiveness of the head lamps or that would change the color of light emitted. This paragraph does not prohibit the placement of clear transparent material mounted in front of the head lamps, fog lamps or auxiliary driving lamps.

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28-947. Special restrictions on lamps

A. A person shall direct a lighted lamp or illuminating device on a motor vehicle, other than a head lamp, spot lamp, auxiliary lamp or flashing front direction signal, that projects a beam of light of an intensity greater than three hundred candlepower so that no part of the beam strikes the level of the roadway on which the vehicle stands at a distance of more than seventy-five feet from the vehicle.

B. A person shall not drive or move a vehicle or equipment on a highway with a lamp or device on the vehicle that is capable of displaying a red or red and blue light or lens visible from directly in front of the center of the vehicle. Lights visible from the front of a vehicle shall be amber or white. This section does not apply to an authorized emergency vehicle or a vehicle on which a red or red and blue light or lens visible from the front is expressly authorized or required by this chapter.
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Originally posted by Dorkinator
I've been wondering for awhile, just out of general curiosity and because my dad couldn't answer it [him being an ex-cop and all], what is the law for neons? I've heard so many different things about what colors are illegal, if its really illegal to drive with them on or cops just hate it..so can someone please just kinda explain everything?
28-940. Additional lighting equipment

A motor vehicle may be equipped with any of the following:

1. Not more than two side cowl or fender lamps that emit an amber or white light without glare.

2. Not more than one running board courtesy lamp on each side of the motor vehicle that emits a white or amber light without glare.

3. Not more than two backup lamps either separately or in combination with other lamps, but a backup lamp shall not be lighted when the motor vehicle is in forward motion.

I dont know what a 'cowl' is and I cant find it in the definitions either. I cant seem to find a statute that directly talks about neons or the LED wandshield washer nozzels but I think this may be close. Im gonna keep looking though

Its gonna be different for each city...but I know that in Tempe they will pull you over for having the neons on while the vehicle is in motion.

And the LED washer nozzels have to be white or amber colored
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RUFUS- FYI

28-963. Television prohibition

A person shall not drive a motor vehicle equipped with a television viewer or screen or any other means of visually receiving a television broadcast that is either:

1. Located in the motor vehicle at any point forward of the back of the driver's seat.

2. Visible, directly or indirectly, to the driver while operating the motor vehicle.

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Originally posted by AZ2K1Civic
RUFUS- FYI

28-963. Television prohibition

A person shall not drive a motor vehicle equipped with a television viewer or screen or any other means of visually receiving a television broadcast that is either:

1. Located in the motor vehicle at any point forward of the back of the driver's seat.

2. Visible, directly or indirectly, to the driver while operating the motor vehicle.

So basically this law is saying that the fancy CD / DVD players with screens many people have installed as there primary audio in the dash are illegal because they are in direct or indirect view of the driver.

I wonder if an officer would charge you if the screen was not in use at the time driver was stopped?
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28-963. Television prohibition

A person shall not drive a motor vehicle equipped with a television viewer or screen or any other means of visually receiving a television broadcast that is either:

1. Located in the motor vehicle at any point forward of the back of the driver's seat.

2. Visible, directly or indirectly, to the driver while operating the motor vehicle.

That would make those fancy reciever/equalizers okay to have in the dash. No television or DVD movies
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so i got pulled over tonite in Avondale for failure to stop at a red light and 65+ in a 40. said he paced me (BS never broke 55 but i did turn right without stoping). im gonna request a civil trial and keep rescheduling....but will with wave my right to take trafic school and how many times can i reschedule to drag it out as long as possible?
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What kind of fine do I get just for watching a DVD while driving?
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What kind of fine do I get just for watching a DVD while driving?
I dont know...Its a class 2 misdemeanor so there could be some jail time but I doubt that would happen.
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can a sherriff deputy serve papers on someone??
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can a sherriff deputy serve papers on someone??
What kind of papers? Whose jurisdiction is the person in?
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in Maricopa County...papers like for Divorce, Child Support etc.
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I patrol Deputy wouldnt serve those...we have a civil division that handles that

I could serve an order of protection....restraining order
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