Honda Civic Racing: Drift/Drag/AutoX/Time Attack There are different setups needed if you are using your civic for drifting, drag or track racing

Second time at the Drag Strip.....New personal best

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Second time at the Drag Strip.....New personal best

EEN and I went to Cooper River Dragway last night. It was our first time going out there and we weren't informed that we needed helmets until everyone was getting ready to run. So we ended up making friends with a 6thgen owner and a few Neons at the track. They let us borrow some of their helmets. SEE, Domestics and Imports can get along.....LOL

Anyways, These times generally suck because I have so much weight in the car(my fatass and sound system) and I'm running on bald steelies.



FIRST RACE:

EEN: 1
Me: 0

EEN got an awsome launch on me but I had a super high trap speed.







SECOND RACE:

EEN: 1
Me: 1

I got the killer launch this time and pulled my personal best time.








THIRD RACE:

Neon: 1
Me: 1

My car bogged like a son of a b|tch on this run. It was so embarrassing.








FOURTH RACE:

Same Neon w/ 35 shot this time: 2
Me: 1

Never had a chance in hell. I was just running to try to do a good time, but once again I dumped the clutch and bogged.



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is this 1/4 or 1/8?


too bad you couldnt beat the neon


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Hell yea i'm running 11 second 1/4 mile times. Don't you know this D17 is the sh|t? lease:
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damn sorry you never know these days.

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Well, I'm having a little trouble with this being as it's the guy that wrote the "How to Drag Race" DIY. Hahaha. LOL



With some weight reduction and better luck maybe you can break out ot the 11's.
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Yea, I'm selling my 100lbs sound system and my carbon fiber hood arrives this week.
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whats the weight difference in cf hood and stock hood really?? i have heard mixed reviews.

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Cool. That should help. A little weight makes big difference on Civics. I could tell when I go on a trip and have 50 lbs of suitcases in the back.

Somebody posted the weights on the old boards but I don't remember the numbers.

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You need to work on you reaction times. That will help the most. And weight reduction too. Take out anything you don't use. Back seats, stereo, junk in the glove box, junk in trunk, spare tire, and clean out the car. It all adds up and helps alot.
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Originally posted by Jodster
You need to work on you reaction times. That will help the most.
Reaction times don't have an influence on ET.
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I have a CF hood. Im not sure on the actual weight, but by lifting it up every other day, I can tell you that its about half the weight of a stock hood, if not more.
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Without going to extremes, except for losing the sound system, weight reduction of the kind described in this thread won't be very noticible at the track. The rule of thumb is that every 100 lbs. is .1sec in the quarter mile it will probably be even less noticable in the 1/8th.

It looks like the two best things you can work on are launches and power. With the bald tires you are killing your 60ft times with either spinning out or bogging like you said. Of course more power helps as well. With a complete stock interior, spare tire, and heavier 17in wheels, my best time with a 50 shot was a 10.14.
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I think weight might be more important in the 1/8 than in the 1/4.
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Originally posted by Bartkat
I think weight might be more important in the 1/8 than in the 1/4.
Wow. What an informative post. Are you trying to disagree with me or just making a random point? I guarantee that if you get a CF hood and remove the spare and back seat you will not get a consistant improvment in your time. That little amount of weight reduction just doesn't affect that much.
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Originally posted by DRJ
Wow. What an informative post. Are you trying to disagree with me or just making a random point? I guarantee that if you get a CF hood and remove the spare and back seat you will not get a consistant improvment in your time. That little amount of weight reduction just doesn't affect that much.
What the hell does it look like I'm saying,?

Try applying Newtons' third law to the distances and let us know what you come up with, geniu s.
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" The rule of thumb is that every 100 lbs. is .1sec in the quarter mile it will probably be even less noticable in the 1/8th." :zbsflag:
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Originally posted by FlyRiceRacer02
Reaction times don't have an influence on ET.
Why doesn't reaction times have anything to do with your ET? I'm not trying to be an *** in anyway. I just remember people that got better times with good launches.
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How good your launch is will be measured by your sixty foot times. Reaction times just measure who got the faster launch. The 1/4mile timer doesn't start until you launch, hence the reason why reaction time don't affect ET
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Ok, thanks.
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Right now I'm looking into getting some drag slicks for the next time I race.
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Also, the general rule of thumb is for every 100lbs of weight you remove = 10 horses you gain.
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Originally posted by FlyRiceRacer02
Also, the general rule of thumb is for every 100lbs of weight you remove = 10 horses you gain.
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Isn't that the same as every 10lbs you lose you gain 1 hp?

That sounds like too much hp gained.

I dunno.

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if its true im gonna take out the spare and jack tommorow. then whatever else i can muster.
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Originally posted by Bartkat
What the hell does it look like I'm saying,?

Try applying Newtons' third law to the distances and let us know what you come up with, geniu s.
No. You do it. Then, when you're done with your physics book at your desk, take 50lbs. out of your car and go to the track, then come back here and post your timeslips of you improving your times more than .1 sec.

EDIT: Unless you completely strip the car, BS weight removal isn't going to help much.
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ANY weight removal is better than ZERO weight removal.
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It depends on where you take the weight from. Static weight reduction has the least effect on acceleration. Reducing Rotational mass has the most. Grassroots Motorsports did a test on the whole subject. And we have allready talked about it HERE
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Originally posted by FlyRiceRacer02
ANY weight removal is better than ZERO weight removal.
True. I just tend to look at the effort-to-benefit ratio. EDIT: Like I said the minor weight reduction that we're discussing here wouldn't result in enough drop in time that you could consider yourself consistantly faster. The people at GRM are excellent drivers and the most they get out of their experiment is .1sec. 99% of the people on this board wouldn't get the same results.


Zzyzx, thanks for the link. That is some interesting info.

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