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Old Apr 23, 2003
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aaaaahh.. okie... 6speed *drools*

but either way, the base and spec v would kill our non-Si(US)/SiR civics right?
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Old Apr 23, 2003
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the automatic base se-r would be a closer race, but ide still give the edge to the se-r over a 5 speed civic...but it looks very close on paper whether its close on the tarmac is a different story....but its very possible for a 5 speed civic to out run the automatic se-r given the different driver skills of both cars....but the base se-r auto is still high 15 capable in the right hands....
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Actually, My girl has the base SE-R in Auto. I happened to race a 02 SI, that would not leave us alone comming home from the movies, a few nights ago. I won the SI by about 1 1/2 cars. The SI had an Exhaust from what I saw. My girls SE-R has an intake and thats all (B-Day present from me). The driver I raced shifted smoothly and his takeoff was not bad. I would say the SE-R is over the SI.
Speaking of the SVT-4, my friend owns one and had an encounter with a SE-R Spec V Turbo. Yes the SE-R was turbo, custom done. My friend won that race but not by much. I must say though my friend has an almost flawless takeoff. He is set to run a fully built 99 SI and a SS Camero on Sunday. Will post results after.
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Old Apr 23, 2003
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who done your friends turbo? its not svt-r...its srt-4......i didnt know of any spec-v turbos other than the one travis was building and jwt's
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hmm my friends se-r spec v auto runs a 15.5 with intake and exhaust, he takes me by a length evertime, but his "vtec" that nissan makes sounds superb
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Old Apr 24, 2003
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What kind of "vtec" does nissan use??
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eh? nissan v-tec? i doubt you are hearing the continously variable valve timing but more the dual plane intake manifold runners opening up at around 5k...its like the car does go in some sort of lift mode with the cams, when really the lift isnt changing...its just where nissan decided to uncork the manifold at higher rpms by having that actuator there and opening up at a preset rpm.... there is a nice jump in hp and tq on dyno's when the actuator does open.

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all i know is that i stomp on my gas pedal and my car goes faster

i heard toyota has the most advanced variable valve timing stuff
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Sorry NcSpec. My typo SRT-4. I did not think an SE-R had turbo until My friend raced it. My friend has the SRT-4, not the SE-R Turbo. You can not mistake a ***** sound for a cold air when a gear changes from turbo. The guy did not pull over for us after so I can not put hands down that SE-R was a turbo, but the pissss sound just tells me that is was turbo charged.
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i miss the psssssssh sound on my old car 96 accord VTi @8psi... went through 2clutches lolz!
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Originally posted by BustenthaFlo
hmm my friends se-r spec v auto runs a 15.5 with intake and exhaust, he takes me by a length evertime, but his "vtec" that nissan makes sounds superb
eric

huh? spec-v auto? dude...the spec-v's only come in 6speed....until the 04's come out...then the 6speed hlsd is optional...5 speed being standard....you must mean base se-r auto.
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SE-R, Type R whatever, it's a trademark rip-off. The car is a Sentra plain and simple! I don't doubt that an RSX couldn't beat it but a Type S would. What, you think I went at him with a stock civic? It aint all car my friends, it's half driver! That guy couldn't drive and it showed. By the way, redline a SE-R and see what happens! Another thing, the only quality that the SE-R has is that it doesn't look like the Z! Don't get me wrong, I love the Z but does Nissan have to make all their new cars and SUVish vehicles look just like it...COME ON!
The NEON SXT or whatever they call it now is what it is...a NEON! Like any other Chrysler Turbo, it'll break at 50,000 kms and become more worthless than a minivan.
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SE-R, Type R whatever, it's a trademark rip-off. The car is a Sentra plain and simple! I don't doubt that an RSX couldn't beat it but a Type S would. What, you think I went at him with a stock civic? It aint all car my friends, it's half driver! That guy couldn't drive and it showed. By the way, redline a SE-R and see what happens! Another thing, the only quality that the SE-R has is that it doesn't look like the Z! Don't get me wrong, I love the Z but does Nissan have to make all their new cars and SUVish vehicles look just like it...COME ON!
The NEON SXT or whatever they call it now is what it is...a NEON! Like any other Chrysler Turbo, it'll break at 50,000 kms and become more worthless than a minivan.
type s would murder a spec v on the free way, then again rsx-s would murder a lot cars on the free way, but quarter mile it's still a driver's race, and for a car cost at least 4k more than a spec v it better be faster...i haven't got a chance to run an rsx-s yet, but i raced my friends' type r w/intake and exhaust before, and we were head to head until end of 3rd gear...exactly what mods do you have on your "si"? was the se-r an auto? was the driver racing you at all?
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Those Spec V's are quick I know someone who has one and he smokes GSR's all the time.

They have much more torque than Honda's.

Their Torque level actually is more than their horsepower level on the dyno. Very rare for a 4 cyl. That 2.5 liter pumps out hella torque for a 4 banger.
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Originally posted by Pharoh
SE-R, Type R whatever, it's a trademark rip-off. The car is a Sentra plain and simple! I don't doubt that an RSX couldn't beat it but a Type S would. What, you think I went at him with a stock civic? It aint all car my friends, it's half driver! That guy couldn't drive and it showed. By the way, redline a SE-R and see what happens! Another thing, the only quality that the SE-R has is that it doesn't look like the Z! Don't get me wrong, I love the Z but does Nissan have to make all their new cars and SUVish vehicles look just like it...COME ON!
The NEON SXT or whatever they call it now is what it is...a NEON! Like any other Chrysler Turbo, it'll break at 50,000 kms and become more worthless than a minivan.

ehhhhhhhhhhh you have the equivelant of the US market civic ex..........it would take an extremely ignorant moron to lose to an ex(si) in a straight line in the se-r if any effort was put forth...as a matter of fact...i dont even have to take my car above 4k to beat an ex...tried it out with a buddy of mine....was a 6th gen short shifted 1st between 3k and 3500 and took 2nd upto 4k and we was even up to about 4k in 3rd when we shut it down....needless to say i wasnt even really trying! but i do have i/h/e...but it would take a 'tard shifting at 4k missing gears to lose to the si(ex).....sir(si) different story....but i havent had any trouble with those modded out when i was stock.
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Originally posted by Pharoh
SE-R, Type R whatever, it's a trademark rip-off. The car is a Sentra plain and simple! I don't doubt that an RSX couldn't beat it but a Type S would. What, you think I went at him with a stock civic? It aint all car my friends, it's half driver! That guy couldn't drive and it showed. By the way, redline a SE-R and see what happens! Another thing, the only quality that the SE-R has is that it doesn't look like the Z! Don't get me wrong, I love the Z but does Nissan have to make all their new cars and SUVish vehicles look just like it...COME ON!
The NEON SXT or whatever they call it now is what it is...a NEON! Like any other Chrysler Turbo, it'll break at 50,000 kms and become more worthless than a minivan.
type-r? huh? the SE-R was never meant to be called the type-R ... it's an "SE-R" plain and simple, how is that a trademark rip-off? They're basically tailoring the "SE-R" for people who want an econo-car with speed... sorta like an extremely watered-down "GT-R" hehe...

now what's wrong with minivan's... worthless? i don't think so... wait till you have a family or when you want to haul around more than 5 people comfortably... and just think of how much you can haul in a minivan... you gotta give credit to the Honda Odyssey (230hp! i think) , and the Toyota Sienna (220hp 4wd!)... wow! don't go around saying minivans are worthless...
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I have 2002 Si with an intake and I stomp SE-R's all the time. As far as performance numbers go they may be superior but it seems these fools don't know their cars and i wax them. Oh and by the way anyone with DX through Ex better step off because unless you have a turbo or some serious tuning I will stomp you.
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Originally posted by HtownSI
I have 2002 Si with an intake and I stomp SE-R's all the time. As far as performance numbers go they may be superior but it seems these fools don't know their cars and i wax them. Oh and by the way anyone with DX through Ex better step off because unless you have a turbo or some serious tuning I will stomp you.
yo, take it easy... as you said, even if the performance numbers are slightly better on an SE-R, you can waste them because of your superior skillz... but why are you going from "Si/SiR" vs "EX/Si, LX, DX"? mind you, even a bad driver of an Si/SiR can lose to the lower trims with D17s hehe
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Originally posted by HtownSI
I have 2002 Si with an intake and I stomp SE-R's all the time. As far as performance numbers go they may be superior but it seems these fools don't know their cars and i wax them. Oh and by the way anyone with DX through Ex better step off because unless you have a turbo or some serious tuning I will stomp you.
#1. You just sounded like a real loser in that post

#2. You prob raced a non spec V auto

#3. a STOCK Se-R Spec V 6-speed would smoke your overwieght intake equipped hatchback/minivan.
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Originally posted by HtownSI
I have 2002 Si with an intake and I stomp SE-R's all the time. As far as performance numbers go they may be superior but it seems these fools don't know their cars and i wax them. Oh and by the way anyone with DX through Ex better step off because unless you have a turbo or some serious tuning I will stomp you.


uhhhhhhhhh okay...might have happened....im sure a portion of owners are girls or guys who drive with a finger up their ***.....from a stop ive put about 3 cars on your kind when i was stock....but this was a 6th gen i/h/e civic si
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and the 6th gen Si's/SiR's are faster than the 7th gen Si's/SiR's
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Ohh well I had to jump in, here are some vids of my spec v running against 200+ hp cars, I think the spec comes with good performance to eat many cars out there, if you guys want I can tell my friend with an i/h/e 2001 EX to race me and tape the race so you can see the results.

me against a phantom r/t

http://ntegs01.cegs.itesm.mx/a00615...ng/MOV00105.MPG

me against a leon cupra R

http://ntegs01.cegs.itesm.mx/a00615...ng/MOV00107.MPG
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woot! post a vid of the EX vs V !!!
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Originally posted by HtownSI
I have 2002 Si with an intake and I stomp SE-R's all the time. As far as performance numbers go they may be superior but it seems these fools don't know their cars and i wax them. Oh and by the way anyone with DX through Ex better step off because unless you have a turbo or some serious tuning I will stomp you.
may i ask where in houston?? becuase i have a spec-v that would make your si look stupid
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well guys im racing my firend in thursday and im taping it so I let you guys know what happened...
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I'd like to see a V vs Si/SiR vid too!
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my roomate has an 02 spec v, its got a nice pull no problems he needs to learn how to drive it, i can still take him in my stock 5spd ex
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from my experience it would take a 1 legged 1 armed chimpanzee driving the se-r spec-v to be out accellerated by an ex....in other words its not a drivers race...i could absolutely foul out my launch and bog to almost stalling and pull hard enough out of first to not worry about having to shift well enough into second....its such a flip flopped battle that i would let my girlfriend race al unser jr in an ex
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Originally posted by NcSpecv81
from my experience it would take a 1 legged 1 armed chimpanzee driving the se-r spec-v to be out accellerated by an ex....in other words its not a drivers race...i could absolutely foul out my launch and bog to almost stalling and pull hard enough out of first to not worry about having to shift well enough into second....its such a flip flopped battle that i would let my girlfriend race al unser jr in an ex
i raced a 7thgen civic at HRP a few months back, he had i/h/e. I let him get the jump and by the 1/8th mile i had 1.5 cars on him and by the end of the track i had 2.5.

I ran a 14.89 to his 15.8
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