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welp, id like to introduce myself- call me flipper. I have a 2001 5-speed Mustang 3.8L (v6). My mods right now are only a steeda triax shifter, 180* thermostat, cold air intake, and 245 Kumho Ecsta Supras. So as you can see, my car is generally still "a virgin".

Anyways, yesterday I was at a hot dog place down here in Miami. The owner of the place, and his son, use to have a 5.0 and would race it at the track and such. They continued on to insult me about my car being only a V6 and I took it and really didnt care, because I get it alot. However, as the son started leaving and I noticed he went into a new Civic Si, complete with the annoying fart cannon and altezzas he already put on.

So, i proceeded to pay the bill and ran out the door because it really pissed me off that he had the nerve to insult me that I had a v6 mustang when he had a little civic.

so he left, and i caught up, road was all clear and he revved at me. We were going 30. Then he took off and I took off. Immediately I pulled ahead of him. We only went at it till like 60 cuz there wasnt a chance in hell he was catching up. So we caught the light. He didnt rev like an idiot by kicking the peddle over and over, instead he got it to a steady RPM. So i actually know he wasnt an idiot driver to know that he can at least launch properly. Light turned, i nailed it, had him by about 2-3 car length for a little under a qm. Moral of the story? V6's arent slow like you think, and Civic Si's are nothing to be proud of.

 
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No one ever said V6 was slow, and any car is something to be proud of. Plus, why would you just a civic board and just about the first thing you post is how you "ran down" a civic Si. Good job, im sure it was pretty hard too.

 
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i created this because of the large amount of threads of bs of you guys claiming to beat a 99+ v6 and thinking your cars are fast.

and last time i heard, every time i hear a ricer talking theyre alway saying, "yah! well wait till you race a civic si!"

ive raced about 15-25 civics of various kinds....ive lost only about 2-3 times. those were mainly cuz they shot nitrous and even then they really didnt kill me either. for all that modding theyve done, i expect my *** handed to me...

 
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i drive an 02 si, and my mother drives a (v6) 99 mustang. I know for a fact i can hang with it if not pull on it, becuase i have before. anything is possible. shouldnt u be modding yourself to try and compete with v-8's? where is the fun of racing cars that are almost half the displacement?

 
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My friend has a 2000 v6 stang. And he and I are even in every race.

 
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Congratulations.

 
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Well, even I've beaten an auto V6 99+ stang... and I have a DX sedan 5-speed. I doubt I'd beat a stick shift, I'm sure. But coming onto the site and trying to **** in the fire won't help anyone.

It's one thing to come in and give your .02 in an already started thread, but another to come in and come up with some story where you beat a civic Si. And your last sentence expresses your attitude completely. "civic Si's are nothing to be proud of". Right, and when you roll next to my S2000, your V6 is nothing to be proud of.

See how stupid that attitude is? It's a good way to get yourself banned.

You've been warned.

 
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lol you raced your mom...good comparison
and v8's- 94-98 GT's...auto...convertable...no problem really...just about even. theyre not much. 99+ gt's take me by about 2 or so cars. however its not too hard to get a v6 up to par if not faster than a stock v8

 
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99+ GT's take you by only 2 cars? and what mods do you have done? There's no way you're hanging that close with a 99+GT with only a shifter, ecstas, and CAI on your V6 stang.

 
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Bet ya can't outrun my automatic.

 
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not just me, but most peole with 99+ v6's are capable of hanging in there pretty well stock for stock

 
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So let me get this straight.... you think 99+ v6's can hang with 99+ GT's?

So somehow a car that runs mid/low 15's at best can "hang" with a car that runs high 13's at best?

Right, and my S2000 can "hang" with a Z06.

 
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high 13's? ya, that same driver that does high 13's on a stock gt will be able to pull off high 14's on a stock v6. but most of the time its mid/low 15's on a v6, and 14's on a gt. again, 99+ hangs in there pretty damn well for being "only a v6"

 
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come on...I mean, your civic is even in every race with a 2000 v6 stang??? Is your friend armless or have 8 passengers?

 
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His is an auto. But stangs weigh almost 1000 lbs more than our cars anyways.

 
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Considering that I am at the track at least 2x a month, and that so cal is the V6 mustang capitol of the world, I think I have some authority to speak in real world examples. The fastest *stock* 5 spd 99+ V6 I saw run was actually here at Carlsbad's crappy track. The driver pulled a 15.2@90.xx. I talked to him later and the only thing he had done were putting on a set of street drag radials, and he took everything out of his car (floor mats, jack, spare and what not). Whats the rest of the pack run? Everything between a 15.5 and a 16.5. Most of which now have those ubiquitous side pipes (errr... PIPE), and Im sure all the other basic bolt-ons (intake and what not). Could that guy have shaved off .2+ seconds to get a 14.9? Not with that trap speed, but Im sure someone, somewhere has done it. Hell, I have more then one video of a 99 Si pulling a 14.9 with just an AEM CAI and a set of drag radials. I my self Ran a 15.4 stock, and a 15.2 with an intake and better tires (Im sure me having the car for a longer period of time and getting used to it helped more then the mods). That doesn’t mean that 85% of the time I see people with more mods then that running high 15s, low 16s.

Whats the point? Yes a 99+ V6 5 spd can run low 15s stock. Is that still slow? Yes. Was that as slow as I thought? Absolutely. When you get into the 13s, let me know. Then you can actually talk like you have some *****.

 
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However, i must agree, the new Si is a step back for honda from my generation.

 
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ok, running 14's in a stock V6 stang is like running 15's in a stock civic EX. You can claim to have done it all you want, that doesn't make it real. And if the stang is a 5spd, yes it WILL beat any stock civic sold in america. What I can't stand is the people with the V6 auto stangs that think their car is the shiznits, but run 17's.[IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

 
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lol funny thing is, i dont consider my car fast at all and you can talk to any of my friends about that. however, compared to civics where you guys put your life savings into these things only to pull mid 15's, thats sad. i mean, whats even more sad is a Civic Si is starting at $19,000 not including any options, dealer markups, or whatnot. My mustang was only about $15,600 and matches that...oh and doesnt look like moms grocery getter... And it takes about $1000 to get a stock 99+ v6 into mid-14's. I mean, come on. The v6 mustang is the bottom of the line mustang and it takes Si's, Hondas top of the line civic that you all are bragging about all the time saying they run 10's.

then i hear crap about people saying, "YAH! WELL WAIT TILL YOU GET A RACE WITH A B16A2 MOTOR" or some crap like that. Wtf is that telling me? The guy changed the friggen engine. That would be about the same as me saying "YAH! WELL WAIT TILL YOU GET A RACE WITH A 302!".

just give up guys...drag racing is not for imports. leave that to the american cars- stick to what you guys are best at....autox and other handling stuff, in which i admit you guys easily out do us there.

you guys sit here insulting me saying my car isnt that fast....well, all thats doing is insulting you guys- why? simply cuz you guys put so much $$ into these things and i still take them with my little v6 that i dont even have much in it.

gotta love the irony in that- i get my stock v6 and take it out once in a while to find a ricer out there to f--- with...he has $1000's invested in it and i race him and embarass him for not even able to keep up with my front bumper....its even better when he has his gf in the car so i can see her laughing at him when he does a ricer fly by a little bit later on

 
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its all in the launch...they obviously cant launch properly if theyre getting a 99+ v6 at best in the 17's...

 
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We can only hang with a GT through first gear. We can stay within a few carlengths of them then but once they hit 2nd they are gone.

I guess it could be possible for a slightly modded 5spd v6 to keep up with a stock auto GT, but I doubt it would be within 2 cars.

*smacks flipper*

 
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steve steve steve...always trying to make me look stupid lol

i raced a stock 99 auto once and i had him all the way to the end of 2nd which is when he started pulling on me n got aboue 2 lengths at the end. he told me after he amazed how hard the new v6's pull

 
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how in the hell is that possible? does he not know how to push down on the petal 100%?

how? you would think, 260hp and 302tq vs ~200hp and ~235tq.. the gt would come out with more than 2 lengths! man! if i was that GT owner, I'd have been ashamed!

I've raced my friend's 01 (stock) vs me (when i was stock). Both of us were autos and at about 100 mph he was way ahead... even if I was a 5spd he still would have had way more than 2 cars on me.

 
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the guys over at stangnet must be rollin on the floor reading flipper's posts. [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

 
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lol lemme clear this up- i had him on the launch in 1st....then he started catching back up through 2nd slowly, and as soon as i shifted to 3rd he jumped on me....i dont think he powerbreaked that well though, so im guessing thats why he didnt have a good launch

 
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REALLY? This, from Mr. "welp, id like to introduce myself- call me flipper. I have a 2001 5-speed Mustang 3.8L (v6)... Moral of the story? V6's arent slow like you think." ?
So I guess "not slow" isn’t exactly very quick either huh?

You like to make blanket statements? Then ill speak in generalities.

The only way that is going to happen is if some uber gay retard wanted to make an all show and no go car. However this is true of pretty much all cars, with the V6 mustang ranking right up there. I cant remember the last time I saw one without altezzas or some other gay modification. Shiet, if I spent my life savings on making a toaster oven faster, i could break out of the 15s.

Lets see...
A) I paid 16,500 for my Si, but this is a 2000 remember. the New 02+ are going for way under sticker, around 15,500-16,500.
B) The Si is the top of the line model. Unless you want bug deflectors or chrome rims, there are NO options.
C) My car doesnt exactly resemble a "grocery getter" either, your moms or not. I also agree that the newer design is inferior, however thats what people said about the 99 mustang back in 98. Yea, think about that.
D) I spent $600 and change to run a 13.95@102MPH. Whats your point? Mid 14s... pfffff.

Dont you mean that the bottom of the line Ford Pony car runs as fast as the top of the line econobox civic? And where the hell did you get 10s from, your ***? Keep digging, you might find some gold.

Actually my car came with a B16A stock. Whats to change? Please learn something about whatever you are going to talk about. It makes it a lot easier on your ego, and its fewer headaches for me.

The V6 mustang isnt exactly built for drag racing either... on top of that, with the curb weight and solid rear axle, its not exactly suited for track use either. So... okay, I agree. BTW, who the hell ever said that going fast in a straight line is the end all and be all of a cars performance? No one? Like i said, keep digging.

Again,
A) My car is faster then yours stock.
B) My car is faster then yours currently.
C) I spend 400 LESS then what you claim you need to run "mid 14s", while im running high 13s.
D) Give it up.

Yes, Im sure going out to find the APC equipped DX civic with 3 passengers makes your ego feel good. Bring it to San Diego big boy. Ill supply the lube for the **** raping Id dole out.

 
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Flipper is nothing more than a troll.

This is the type of idiot that gets banned from stangnet!!

Hey Flipper, why don't you head out to Moroso next week so we can watch you hang with the GTs. I've got a nice heavy Vert that you could try and keep up with [IMG]i/expressions/demon.gif[/IMG]

 
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LOL. Your right. I am a stangnet member and came across a thread describing the BS in this forum. Wow, you weren't kidding when you said it was some funny sh**. [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

As for the original post, I will say BS as well! To say a '99+ V6 is can hang with a '99+ GT is just retarded. For example: '99+ GT = 260HP 302tq, 232-240rwhp 255-265rwtq - '99+ V6 = 190HP 230Tq, 150-160rwhp 190-200rwtq. Thats is about an 80rwhp/65rwtq difference! The V6 is not much lighter (maybe 100-200lbs AT THE MOST). That combined with a more robust powerband and steeper gearset is WAY TOO MUCH for any stock V6 even for 2 car lengths! No matter where you are in a race, the GT is ALWAYS going to pull on the V6. 1K in mods is not going to get you ANYWHERE near the 80rwhp/65rwtq that you need JUST TO HANG! Sorry, but unless you are packing some MAJOR mods (i.e supercharger/turbo, LOTS of nitrous, rearend, fuel, etc.) all your going to be seeing when you race a GT are taillights!

I highly doubt it. I little 4-banger is not going to pull a V6 stang unless you are significantly modded. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG] Oh, tell "your mom" the accelerator is the right pedal. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

A) not by a LOOOOONG shot
B) with a lot of mods MAYBE
C) LOL! LMFAO! oh yeah, sure.....
D) Give it up

 
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I bet to differ. My 'lil 1.6 liter NA 4 banger was running low 15s stock. how many V6 mustangs are doing that as well with no modifications what so ever?

Manditory rebutal edit: oh great edit. I actually have proof, would you like to step up the the plate? And was I talking to you, the guy with the GT, or was I ONLY refering to the near stock V6 guy? Yea, go back to your hole.