Civic EX V.S. Civic SI
Civic EX V.S. Civic SI
Ok... THis was like a month ago.
THis guy at my school thinks his car is way faster than mine. I have a stock civic ex and the other guy 2002 stock si.
So we decided to race a quarter mile at a traffic light.
I launch at 3100 and get him at the getgo. Im ahead by one car.
Shift to second gear and its an even match.
Shift to third and I start to see him pulling, but it was over.
I won by a hood.




Everyone that went to spectate was like.






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I just smiled [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] and drove away.
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THis guy at my school thinks his car is way faster than mine. I have a stock civic ex and the other guy 2002 stock si.
So we decided to race a quarter mile at a traffic light.
I launch at 3100 and get him at the getgo. Im ahead by one car.
Shift to second gear and its an even match.
Shift to third and I start to see him pulling, but it was over.
I won by a hood.





Everyone that went to spectate was like.







:_b ow:
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When my car was stock I beat a 99-00 si. He had a cat-back that was all. I bet him by about 2 car lengths because I had enough room to get back into the correct lane. I got him off the line because he dumped the clutch and then floored it so he sat and spun for a few seconds. Good job man
Then again I lost to a hatchback by about 3 car lengths that had an si motor put in it. But i'd say we can hang with Si's with the basic mods.
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[hr]Originally posted by: oblivious9
Ah, the size of a hatchback, but the weight & appearance of a minivan...[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: oblivious9
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[hr]Originally posted by: 2k1sscivic
Their car being heavy does help[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: 2k1sscivic
Their car being heavy does help[hr]
Ah, the size of a hatchback, but the weight & appearance of a minivan...[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: JOO
Im ahead my one car.
Shift to second gear and its an even match.
Shift to third and I start to see him pulling, but it was over.
I won by a hood.




Everyone that went to spectate was like.






:_b ow:
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I just smiled [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] and drove away.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: JOO
Im ahead my one car.
Shift to second gear and its an even match.
Shift to third and I start to see him pulling, but it was over.
I won by a hood.





Everyone that went to spectate was like.







:_b ow:
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Alright im not sure how good yall know your civic but a Civic SI has 160 hp and ( We ) the EX civic have 127 hp, I don't know what all you've done to your car's but I still think they sould be able to beat yall
And if you don't belive me ill give you a web page that has the spec of both cars
www.HondaTuners.com go to vehicle specs
And if you don't belive me ill give you a web page that has the spec of both cars
www.HondaTuners.com go to vehicle specs
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[hr]Originally posted by: no
Alright im not sure how good yall know your civic but a Civic SI has 160 hp and ( We ) the EX civic have 127 hp, I don't know what all you've done to your car's but I still think they sould be able to beat yall
And if you don't belive me ill give you a web page that has the spec of both cars
www.HondaTuners.com go to vehicle specs
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[hr]Originally posted by: no
Alright im not sure how good yall know your civic but a Civic SI has 160 hp and ( We ) the EX civic have 127 hp, I don't know what all you've done to your car's but I still think they sould be able to beat yall
And if you don't belive me ill give you a web page that has the spec of both cars
www.HondaTuners.com go to vehicle specs
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It is very likely that an Si can lose to another 7thgen.
Stock situations:
Si's can run a 16.2 1/4 mile.
EX's can run a 16.7 1/4 mile
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Interesting thread
So who was it on here that I beat about a month ago...black 01+ civic coupe with aem license plate holder, some fart can exhaust and 7thGenCivic.com sticker. I'd love to race him again...in fact I'll race any of you with basic bolt ons...I only have a cheap *** short intake.
Anyone in San Antonio want to race me
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So who was it on here that I beat about a month ago...black 01+ civic coupe with aem license plate holder, some fart can exhaust and 7thGenCivic.com sticker. I'd love to race him again...in fact I'll race any of you with basic bolt ons...I only have a cheap *** short intake. Anyone in San Antonio want to race me
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[hr]Originally posted by: S2000man01
hehe.... i'll race ya if i ever come down that way. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG][hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: S2000man01
hehe.... i'll race ya if i ever come down that way. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG][hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: 02SilverSiHB
lol not with your s2000
I guess I should have said basic bolt ons on a civic ex [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG][hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: 02SilverSiHB
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[hr]Originally posted by: S2000man01
hehe.... i'll race ya if i ever come down that way. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG][hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: S2000man01
hehe.... i'll race ya if i ever come down that way. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG][hr]
I guess I should have said basic bolt ons on a civic ex [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG][hr]

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Ok, this is real stupid. The only way an Si will lose to an EX is if the driver has down syndrome.
This thread has been linked to ephatch.com and our people had some input on this subject.
http://ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6284
This thread has been linked to ephatch.com and our people had some input on this subject.
http://ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6284
im sorry but i really gotta call BS on this fellas. I mean we might have more weight than you but you guys make little power to the wheels what do you dyno? 100hp torque? low 90's? 02 si's dyno 135-138 stocky. We also have a hella of a better torque figure and power band then you kiddies. even with basic bolt ons you'd still be - on hp and torque and your power band would still lack.
thats like me saying i can kill a rsx type s or something. Im sorry maybe the kid couldnt drive his car. if anyone is in the SOCAL area and wants to mess with my hamster give me a email. =-) till then cya kids. ive raced many celica gt that weigh less than you ( or even ) and they make more hp.
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thats like me saying i can kill a rsx type s or something. Im sorry maybe the kid couldnt drive his car. if anyone is in the SOCAL area and wants to mess with my hamster give me a email. =-) till then cya kids. ive raced many celica gt that weigh less than you ( or even ) and they make more hp.
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Your Si's aren't as good as you think they are.
Check out the complete thread here
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[hr]Originally posted by: Boilermaker1
I'm not sure how much to trust SCC's numbers or analysis, I haven't been getting it long enough. But they say, at low RPMs one intake valve follows the primary lobe, and the other follows a secondary smaller lobe, and the i-VTEC in the K20A3 activates at 2300 where only the intake valves change to the high cam profile. The exhaust valves never change over, thus the reason for the whimpy performance, lack of 8000+ RPM redline and no scream. Basically, the 11:1 compression and the 2.0L Displacement account for the 33 HP over the EX. Essentially, they have the same VTEC system as we do, just with an extra camshaft that has fixed timing. It's no faster than the EX (they clocked a 1/4 in 16.2/85.1).
Does anyone know if this is true?
Meanwhile the K20A2 has all the goodies.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Boilermaker1
I'm not sure how much to trust SCC's numbers or analysis, I haven't been getting it long enough. But they say, at low RPMs one intake valve follows the primary lobe, and the other follows a secondary smaller lobe, and the i-VTEC in the K20A3 activates at 2300 where only the intake valves change to the high cam profile. The exhaust valves never change over, thus the reason for the whimpy performance, lack of 8000+ RPM redline and no scream. Basically, the 11:1 compression and the 2.0L Displacement account for the 33 HP over the EX. Essentially, they have the same VTEC system as we do, just with an extra camshaft that has fixed timing. It's no faster than the EX (they clocked a 1/4 in 16.2/85.1).
Does anyone know if this is true?
Meanwhile the K20A2 has all the goodies.[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: rgGolf4
Ok, this is real stupid. The only way an Si will lose to an EX is if the driver has down syndrome.
This thread has been linked to ephatch.com and our people had some input on this subject.
http://ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6284[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: rgGolf4
Ok, this is real stupid. The only way an Si will lose to an EX is if the driver has down syndrome.
This thread has been linked to ephatch.com and our people had some input on this subject.
http://ephatch.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6284[hr]
However, stock 7th gen EX's have hit high 15's in the 1/4 mile. sounds like it's most certainly a driver's race with the EP hatch. Unless you can show me slips where stock Si hatches have hit low 15's. Even if the Si hatch can hit mid 15's in the hands of the right driver, it's still going to be a driver's race with the 7th gen EX, or dare I even say LX/DX.
Does anyone know the weight diference between a bare bones no options ex, and a loaded one (AC, sunroof, spoiler, appearance package, power everything). And also, when honda claims a curb weight, is that on a bare car, or a loaded one? Just curious because if a bare ex is 200 lbs lighter than an si, is a loaded ex the same weight? Thanks all
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[hr]Originally posted by: CANcivic
Does anyone know the weight diference between a bare bones no options ex, and a loaded one (AC, sunroof, spoiler, appearance package, power everything). And also, when honda claims a curb weight, is that on a bare car, or a loaded one? Just curious because if a bare ex is 200 lbs lighter than an si, is a loaded ex the same weight? Thanks all[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: CANcivic
Does anyone know the weight diference between a bare bones no options ex, and a loaded one (AC, sunroof, spoiler, appearance package, power everything). And also, when honda claims a curb weight, is that on a bare car, or a loaded one? Just curious because if a bare ex is 200 lbs lighter than an si, is a loaded ex the same weight? Thanks all[hr]
it might be a drivers race if the EX had GOOD rubber I/H/E and a high tail wind pushing behind it. The biggest draw back to the SI is its porkiness and the insight tires. the stock tires a friggin joke. You cant launch higher than 2.5 k on a stock SI without the tires protesting madly. Bad tires + bad driver but still the guy must not know how to floor it cus one it hits 4.8 k and up he should have taken you. Im not saying my car is fast (yet) but i havent lost to any ex or integ ls or cetica gt yet. i have been smoted by several hybrids.
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sihatch02, I will be the first one to call bs on you on all of those races. Your car isn't as fast as you think it is.
So the curb weight listed does not include
1. spoiler
2. Apearance package ( side skirts, front and rear lip spoiler)
That should be about 50lbs right.
Makes sense, because i smoked a guy in a loaded ex, but i was alone and he had his GF with him, (so tack on another 150lbs) so i guess we weighed about the same when we raced, no wonder why I beat him so easily. We ran twice, both times i let him get the initial launch ( I launch when they've got about 1/2 a car on me). He seemed to be a good driver, and i consider myselfe an average driver. But even weighing the same, 1'st is still close, its only till late 2nd when i really started putting distance between us. I think that if an si has an extra person, big subs in the trunk, and a poor driver, a stock ex (without the above apearance package) and an excelent driver could be a drivers race (lets say up to 60mph). But otherwise i think that the 30 or so Hp differnce is too much to make up Stock vs Stock. Thats just my opinion, no intention of starting a flame war or anything. Later all [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
1. spoiler
2. Apearance package ( side skirts, front and rear lip spoiler)
That should be about 50lbs right.
Makes sense, because i smoked a guy in a loaded ex, but i was alone and he had his GF with him, (so tack on another 150lbs) so i guess we weighed about the same when we raced, no wonder why I beat him so easily. We ran twice, both times i let him get the initial launch ( I launch when they've got about 1/2 a car on me). He seemed to be a good driver, and i consider myselfe an average driver. But even weighing the same, 1'st is still close, its only till late 2nd when i really started putting distance between us. I think that if an si has an extra person, big subs in the trunk, and a poor driver, a stock ex (without the above apearance package) and an excelent driver could be a drivers race (lets say up to 60mph). But otherwise i think that the 30 or so Hp differnce is too much to make up Stock vs Stock. Thats just my opinion, no intention of starting a flame war or anything. Later all [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
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All I have to say is you people who are new to the forums and 7thgens have got a lot to learn about what others have figured out on this site. Stock EX's can beat Si's. LX's can beat EX's. It doesn't really matter what the car or their horsepower in the 7thgens. They are so close that it ultimatly comes down to the driver.
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[hr]Originally posted by: sihatch02
it might be a drivers race if the EX had GOOD rubber I/H/E and a high tail wind pushing behind it. The biggest draw back to the SI is its porkiness and the insight tires. the stock tires a friggin joke. You cant launch higher than 2.5 k on a stock SI without the tires protesting madly. Bad tires + bad driver but still the guy must not know how to floor it cus one it hits 4.8 k and up he should have taken you. Im not saying my car is fast (yet) but i havent lost to any ex or integ ls or cetica gt yet. i have been smoted by several hybrids.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: sihatch02
it might be a drivers race if the EX had GOOD rubber I/H/E and a high tail wind pushing behind it. The biggest draw back to the SI is its porkiness and the insight tires. the stock tires a friggin joke. You cant launch higher than 2.5 k on a stock SI without the tires protesting madly. Bad tires + bad driver but still the guy must not know how to floor it cus one it hits 4.8 k and up he should have taken you. Im not saying my car is fast (yet) but i havent lost to any ex or integ ls or cetica gt yet. i have been smoted by several hybrids.[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
Your Si's aren't as good as you think they are.
Check out the complete thread here[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
Your Si's aren't as good as you think they are.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Boilermaker1
I'm not sure how much to trust SCC's numbers or analysis, I haven't been getting it long enough. But they say, at low RPMs one intake valve follows the primary lobe, and the other follows a secondary smaller lobe, and the i-VTEC in the K20A3 activates at 2300 where only the intake valves change to the high cam profile. The exhaust valves never change over, thus the reason for the whimpy performance, lack of 8000+ RPM redline and no scream. Basically, the 11:1 compression and the 2.0L Displacement account for the 33 HP over the EX. Essentially, they have the same VTEC system as we do, just with an extra camshaft that has fixed timing. It's no faster than the EX (they clocked a 1/4 in 16.2/85.1).
Does anyone know if this is true?
Meanwhile the K20A2 has all the goodies.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Boilermaker1
I'm not sure how much to trust SCC's numbers or analysis, I haven't been getting it long enough. But they say, at low RPMs one intake valve follows the primary lobe, and the other follows a secondary smaller lobe, and the i-VTEC in the K20A3 activates at 2300 where only the intake valves change to the high cam profile. The exhaust valves never change over, thus the reason for the whimpy performance, lack of 8000+ RPM redline and no scream. Basically, the 11:1 compression and the 2.0L Displacement account for the 33 HP over the EX. Essentially, they have the same VTEC system as we do, just with an extra camshaft that has fixed timing. It's no faster than the EX (they clocked a 1/4 in 16.2/85.1).
Does anyone know if this is true?
Meanwhile the K20A2 has all the goodies.[hr]
Oh and I know my si is as good as I know they are
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[hr]Originally posted by: 02SilverSiHB
ah yes, the magazine times tells all 
Oh and I know my si is as good as I know they are[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: 02SilverSiHB
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[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
Your Si's aren't as good as you think they are.
Check out the complete thread here[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
Your Si's aren't as good as you think they are.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Boilermaker1
I'm not sure how much to trust SCC's numbers or analysis, I haven't been getting it long enough. But they say, at low RPMs one intake valve follows the primary lobe, and the other follows a secondary smaller lobe, and the i-VTEC in the K20A3 activates at 2300 where only the intake valves change to the high cam profile. The exhaust valves never change over, thus the reason for the whimpy performance, lack of 8000+ RPM redline and no scream. Basically, the 11:1 compression and the 2.0L Displacement account for the 33 HP over the EX. Essentially, they have the same VTEC system as we do, just with an extra camshaft that has fixed timing. It's no faster than the EX (they clocked a 1/4 in 16.2/85.1).
Does anyone know if this is true?
Meanwhile the K20A2 has all the goodies.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Boilermaker1
I'm not sure how much to trust SCC's numbers or analysis, I haven't been getting it long enough. But they say, at low RPMs one intake valve follows the primary lobe, and the other follows a secondary smaller lobe, and the i-VTEC in the K20A3 activates at 2300 where only the intake valves change to the high cam profile. The exhaust valves never change over, thus the reason for the whimpy performance, lack of 8000+ RPM redline and no scream. Basically, the 11:1 compression and the 2.0L Displacement account for the 33 HP over the EX. Essentially, they have the same VTEC system as we do, just with an extra camshaft that has fixed timing. It's no faster than the EX (they clocked a 1/4 in 16.2/85.1).
Does anyone know if this is true?
Meanwhile the K20A2 has all the goodies.[hr]
Oh and I know my si is as good as I know they are[hr]
haha ah yes another set of magazine racers. Anyways if you want to go by MAGS, some s2000 logged 6.5-7.3 0-60! wow great car where did all the hp go? That can barely beat a Rsx type s. Ive never heard of EX breaking into 15.s stock. IMO thats complete BS since a stock 2k SI runs mid 15s. So your telling me that a 127 hp car that barely weighs less than a 2600 car can keep up with it? even though the power band is weaker and even though it makes alot less HP? haha
Its funny when people break out the magazines an start spoutin off times like they are fact. Anyways high 15's? in a EX? ROFL
i guess over here stock means I/H/E cams slicks etc. haha
high 15s? haha
a rsx and a s2000 ais a drivers race then? since the s2000 weighs more. haha
Its funny when people break out the magazines an start spoutin off times like they are fact. Anyways high 15's? in a EX? ROFL
i guess over here stock means I/H/E cams slicks etc. haha
high 15s? haha
a rsx and a s2000 ais a drivers race then? since the s2000 weighs more. haha
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[hr]Originally posted by: sihatch02
haha ah yes another set of magazine racers. Anyways if you want to go by MAGS, some s2000 logged 6.5-7.3 0-60! wow great car where did all the hp go? That can barely beat a Rsx type s. Ive never heard of EX breaking into 15.s stock. IMO thats complete BS since a stock 2k SI runs mid 15s. So your telling me that a 127 hp car that barely weighs less than a 2600 car can keep up with it? even though the power band is weaker and even though it makes alot less HP? haha
Its funny when people break out the magazines an start spoutin off times like they are fact. Anyways high 15's? in a EX? ROFL
i guess over here stock means I/H/E cams slicks etc. haha
high 15s? haha
a rsx and a s2000 ais a drivers race then? since the s2000 weighs more. haha[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: sihatch02
haha ah yes another set of magazine racers. Anyways if you want to go by MAGS, some s2000 logged 6.5-7.3 0-60! wow great car where did all the hp go? That can barely beat a Rsx type s. Ive never heard of EX breaking into 15.s stock. IMO thats complete BS since a stock 2k SI runs mid 15s. So your telling me that a 127 hp car that barely weighs less than a 2600 car can keep up with it? even though the power band is weaker and even though it makes alot less HP? haha
Its funny when people break out the magazines an start spoutin off times like they are fact. Anyways high 15's? in a EX? ROFL
i guess over here stock means I/H/E cams slicks etc. haha
high 15s? haha
a rsx and a s2000 ais a drivers race then? since the s2000 weighs more. haha[hr]
Dude just shutup because you don't know what you are talking about. S2000man01 has run low 14's in his stock S2000. When can I meet you so that we can settle this? I'll make a trip halfway if you meet me the other half.



