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well ... sti's have awd drivetrain loss ...

that and they weigh 3300 pounds... a good 700 pounds heavier than my car. fatty. ( ______ O.O _______ )

 
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humm, yea, i don't think it would be fair, how about i leave my stock pee hole shooter exhaust on, and we can race, i swear im losing so much power, its hard for me to spin my tires in 2nd...

 
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hmm ... maybe...

 
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I'll bring the camera

 
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Yeah that sounds pretty cool i would like to see it

 
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im not calling you a liar.... but... maybe you havent found anyone that knows how to race...

 
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i been saying this the whole time but everyone always got mad. I beat an sti at the track with sf turbo kit using sf fmu!!! I was around 6-8 psi max and he was barely passing me up after the finish line of the quarter mile but I still had better time than him. He was mad that even after the finish line he still kept going while i hit the brakes and made a turn in the quick turn instead of going all the way back to the long turn. I hope all you understood that.
only mods was, sf full turbo kit, no alchy, aem pulleys, greddy evo catback w/ megan cat eliminator downpipe and stock internals with heavy *** rims and yokohama es100 tires which arent great for drag.
no tranny upgrades whatsoever, with stock clutch mad slipping.

 
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i believe u aznboy. whether you care or not. just be lucky that u didnt race a modded one. if you did, that would be a completely different story. but good kill on the sti. stock stis are fast but doesnt mean theyll take modded civics easily

 
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so you are saying that with no more than 200whp you beat an STi?? dont get me wrong i hate srt-4 cause they are neons and slow but i mean common... you are saying you have all this bad stuff for racing yet you beat an STi... again im sorry but i just dont buy it... ill know for sure by the end of summer when i turbo my vic

 
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you are comparing apples to oranges. here's the difference between my car and a stock 05 type S:

- K20A starts with 10 more hp than a K20Z1
- I have a quaife LSD. 05 type S has no LSD.
- 05 Type S weighs 250 pounds more than my car
- 05 Type S rim/tire combo weigh 11 pounds EACH more than my tire/rim combo (11 x 4 = 44 pounds of rotational mass)
- I have some engine mods. stock 05 Type S does not.

I just re-dyno'ed my car today ... it's 200 whp exactly

 
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humm... i believe you little D... haha

 
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great kill, especially since the other car was an AWD

 
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Nice kill.

 
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Good Kill, So how much did the swap end up costing and where did you find the motor?? I have been really thinking about swapping for some time now, but my fiance won't let me . If I go out and bang on the rev limiter for an hour strait and blow the engine I guess I won't have a choice, but to swap

 
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research and learn to read threads in entirely before you come on this site pretending that you know what you are talking about.

Facts:
An STI makes 300 bhp, but there is significant loss through an AWD drivetrain (previously mentioned if you learned to read) so it really only gets around 260whp (just a guess).
An STI weighs in at a heafty 3300lbs (also previously mentioned for your reading pleasure)

STI whp to weight=12.69 lbs/hp

Aznyboysfr's car is making 200 whp and weights in at feather weight 2550lbs (do I even need to say it READ!!)

Aznyboysfr's car whp to weight=12.75 lbs/hp

with this similar of hp to weight it is a compleate drivers race and without the launch the AWD does nothing so I would say that the civic should win because of the agressive gearing and the LSD in the ITR tranny.

Now Please go back to the hole that you crawed out of and never post in this thread again.

 
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^ thanks. I don't have the time to argue with people anymore ... even though I enjoy doing it haha.

swap cost about $7500 after everything said and done. Then add the price of the quaife LSD and my ssr rims and the sale of my dc5r lsd... you've got yourself a $10,000 swap. But technically that other stuff doesn't count towards the swap anyway ;P

you don't have to redline the motor tons to blow it up ... just go 80 mph and drop it into 2nd ... easy ;P

 
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you raced a poor driver in an STi.

the K20A is good for 14.9-15.0 with a GREAT driver in the RSX. with your weight savings, and your nextgear gasket, and your CAI, and your LSD, there's no way in HELL you'd stand a chance against a properly driven STi. they can do 13.0-13.2 with a great driver.

sorry but the mods you have simply won't take your car to low 13's.

so is it a believeable race? sure. it's on the street and anything can happen. does it mean you're faster than even a stock STi? not a snowball's chance in hell.

 
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here we go ...

I haven't seen any sti timeslips running 13.0 stock ... I don't think they are quite that fast. Even so, I would say that that would be one of the best times you can run bone stock with that car. Obviously someone you find off the street isn't going to be one of those drivers ... someone like that would not leave their car stock (for long).

again, my first race was from a roll and I pulled ever so slightly. that one poster was pretty accurate about the power to weight ratio.

don't discredit the guy for being a "poor driver". It's not like I am one of those drivers who could max out the potential of my engine with my driving abilities either. Just because I have a bling K20A civic doesn't mean I'm a good driver ... as noted in the s2k vs. m3 thread ... money doesn't buy driver's skill.

 
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man i dont like haters lol, just let the man be and let him have his glory thumbs up for the races

 
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The RSX does not even have the K20A. And if you look at the hp/weight of each of the cars (STI and his civic) they are very similar. A K20A2 will take a civic into the mid 14s, a civic that has as much weight shaved as his probabally low to flat 14s. Add the LSD, better gearing, different cams (+20hp) and I would say mid high 13s is a definate possibility. With the additional mods that he has I would say that he SHOULD beat a STI from a roll. The only thing holding a K swap civic back is traction, take that variable away and they are damn fast cars.

 
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hell, he has a better whp to weight than a stock S2k, and you go around destroying STIs and EVOs all day so how can you say that it was a poor driver??

 
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Infact, unless you are putting more than 220 to the wheels, his whp to weight is better than your modded S2ks. So I have no idea how you can say anything

 
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well said bgoetz hahaah Civic POWA!

 
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yeah, I agree with this.

With that being said, I just ran a 14.3 at the track ... didn't lower my tire pressure or gut my car or anything. street tires ... that time with a 2.4xx 60' time. I'd imagine if I put dr's and ran a 2.0 60' time, I'd get a high 13 for sure. it was 78 degrees out when I ran my car ... if I ran at night, around 50 degrees, I'm sure it would be pretty easy.

 
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if you think a high 13 second car is faster than an STi, you have serious issues.

 
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I am also quite modded, so comparing what I run is pointless. But since you must....

I can barely stick with an STi/EVO from a stop. properly driven, the STi/EVO is still faster than me by a couple cars to 100mph.

From a roll, I can slowly pull a stock STi/EVO, but the higher the speed the better.

now, keeping that in mind, I can put 6 f*cking cars on a stock S2000. so, explain to me how your logic has ANY RELEVANCE or even does anything except actually prove you wrong.

right. while I can run 13.6@104, and other similarly modded S2000's can run 13.3@105. what did he run at the track? oh yeah... a full second slower than that. and guess what.... 13.3@105 still isn't fast enough to beat a properly driven STi or EVO. I trap 104-105. quite a bit faster than he does. and I can SLOWLY pull a properly driven EVO/STi from a similar speed roll.

find an STi/EVO owner that knows how to drive and what gear to start in. you'll get worked hard.

 
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dear God please read what I posted. don't go around thinking a high 13 second car is faster than an EVO or an STi.

 
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you ran a 13.6 at the track? ... what was your 60' time? what elevation? what temperature? were you on street tires? tire pressure?

I'm not doubting your s2k is faster, especially since it's rwd. however, for my -first- time at the track and running with no modifications to how I run on the street, I believe I ran a respectable time for my setup.

 
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my 60' was 2.2. once I get it down to 1.9-2.0 I should be at the 13.3 mark. street tires. 80-90 degree heat. front tires at 44psi. back tires at 22psi. about 800 feet elevation.

i think you did very well for your first time with your setup. don't think i'm hating on you or your modifications. and don't think that i dont believe your kill story. i, too, have beaten cars that I should not have. happens all the time on the street.

the only thing I'm trying to correct here is a certain misconception that a high 13 second car is in any way, shape, or form faster than a properly driven stock STi or EVO. I think high 13's will be possible for you on some good runs in cool weather and some DR's. but with your current tires, I don't see it happening.

that said, 98-100mph traps are simply not enough to be able to take an STi/EVO from a roll at any speed really.

a stock S2000's only chance at an EVO or STi is from a higher speed roll, say 75-80mph. and even then, it's pretty even, with the S2000 maybe slightly pulling. and a stock S2000 traps 100-102mph. that's 2mph faster than you.

so again, nothing against you or your setup. merely trying to dispel some myths and misconceptions here.

 
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You did an outstanding job. If you're quick running straight aways...have you ever consider on practicing cornering at high speeds? If you master that, you'll be unbeatable.