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Old Aug 8, 2005
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So a couple weeks ago, before I blew my hg, i saw this Lotus Elise drving around. It made a left onto a street by the police station, so I made a right to get onto the same street. I pull up next to him and stare at his nice *** car. We pull up to a red light both in the front of the line, and I say, "Thats a sick ride." His friend was like, "Don't make his head any bigger than it already is", in a laughy voice. I just sort of laugh and look forward. The light changes to green. We both take off a little slow, than he guns it at about 15mph. Being in 1st gear already, it didnt take long for my speedo to hit 30 peeling out. I was at 9psi instantly. I flew by him by the time I was halfway through second. By the time I hit third at about 70, I had 2-3 car lengths on him (the lotus size carlengths). I slow down and he slows down, I make a right turn. Both of them are just staring with their mouths dropped. haha. He felt so bad, especially after ruining his midlife crisis toy.

I love making people feel like their car isnt as fast as they think or as nice, especially when I drive a vic.

Well, a Mazda6 or nicer car soon!!!!
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mmm Elise....mmm.. (its not designed for drag racing...)

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how much boost are you running? 9psi? i dont think he was racing you. They run low 13's.....
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^ they run low 13's with 180 hp? :|
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Only problem with the Elise is when it gets banged up. Its pretty much a huge repair bill.
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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
^ they run low 13's with 180 hp? :|
easily.

190hp, curb weight of 1,975 pounds, and a final drive ratio of 4.53? yeah. it can run low 13's no problem.

on their forums i've heard a few broke into 12's stock.
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^^ ya, your looking at a car thats only pushing little more the 10 LBS per HP..... where as the lil civic (stock) is pushing some where around 20 LBS per Hp... Given that, you'd have to just about Double the power on the civic to keep up (Some where around 250 HP). But this is all Very un scientific.... not all that accurate, just a more visual compairson.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
easily.

190hp, curb weight of 1,975 pounds, and a final drive ratio of 4.53? yeah. it can run low 13's no problem.

on their forums i've heard a few broke into 12's stock.
*sigh* ... suddenly the sound of a k20a is starting to sound a bit inadequate.
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*sigh* ... suddenly the sound of a k20a is starting to sound a bit inadequate.
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I remember seeing this Top Gear video where the host put the elise on a racetrack and asked an army pilot in his apache helicopter (top of the line stuff here.. ) to TRY to get a missile lock on the car, while he's evading it. Guess what : it can't be done. The car is so nimble, imagine a gazelle running for its life, just hopping around faster than you can move your eyes.

Not exactly your everyday dragster :|
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I remember seeing this Top Gear video where the host put the elise on a racetrack and asked an army pilot in his apache helicopter (top of the line stuff here.. ) to TRY to get a missile lock on the car, while he's evading it. Guess what : it can't be done. The car is so nimble, imagine a gazelle running for its life, just hopping around faster than you can move your eyes.

Not exactly your everyday dragster :|
I hate to break it to you but that doesn't say much. Yes it's a nimble car, but an apache helicoptor isn't exactly the most nimble thing in the world even in the air. Not to mention an apache is gonna have a hard time locking onto anything moving that quickly at close range when it's that small and low to the ground.

it's radar is made to lock onto enemy jeeps, tanks, or stationary objects. lol
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Nice kill! But i seriously thought they were super fast
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
I hate to break it to you but that doesn't say much. Yes it's a nimble car, but an apache helicoptor isn't exactly the most nimble thing in the world even in the air. Not to mention an apache is gonna have a hard time locking onto anything moving that quickly at close range when it's that small and low to the ground.

it's radar is made to lock onto enemy jeeps, tanks, or stationary objects. lol


in that video they showed at the end that at the proper dystance (a couple of miles out) it took less then 3 seconds to get a lock.....[boom]
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The elise isnt for everyone....
but when im up in the canyons I think I would feel right at home pushing it through a nice curvy road
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Im very proud to say that my Corolla has the SAME motor as the Elise.

Just not as fast and with 20 less HP, LOL.

But STILL!
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Originally Posted by UTICivic
Im very proud to say that my Corolla has the SAME motor as the Elise.

Just not as fast and with 20 less HP, LOL.

But STILL!
nope your corrolla doesnt .....
its a celica engine in the car
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
I hate to break it to you but that doesn't say much. Yes it's a nimble car, but an apache helicoptor isn't exactly the most nimble thing in the world even in the air. Not to mention an apache is gonna have a hard time locking onto anything moving that quickly at close range when it's that small and low to the ground.

it's radar is made to lock onto enemy jeeps, tanks, or stationary objects. lol
Cool, I had no idea. I actually did find it a bit weird for a piece of advanced military equipment to have trouble tracking a car, but oh well, that was definetly original and got my attention
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my mom has the same engine except a few horsepower shy
she has an 03 matrix
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well in that top gear film they said they would just use the gun to rip him apart...
Anyways being the military buff I am, a Little bird or a Super Cobra would have far less trouble getting a lock on the little thing
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Cool, I had no idea. I actually did find it a bit weird for a piece of advanced military equipment to have trouble tracking a car, but oh well, that was definetly original and got my attention
lol, to think. all saddam had to do was buy a bunch of lotus elise's for his soldiers.
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Originally Posted by thegent
I remember seeing this Top Gear video where the host put the elise on a racetrack and asked an army pilot in his apache helicopter (top of the line stuff here.. ) to TRY to get a missile lock on the car, while he's evading it. Guess what : it can't be done. The car is so nimble, imagine a gazelle running for its life, just hopping around faster than you can move your eyes.

Not exactly your everyday dragster :|
Look closely. Its called the "exige". It was supposed to be the hardcore version of an Elise.
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Originally Posted by WhiteCastle
nope your corrolla doesnt .....
its a celica engine in the car
well jeez, you would think since hes the owner of the car he would know what engine he has. seach 2005 corolla XRS
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Originally Posted by WhiteCastle
nope your corrolla doesnt .....
its a celica engine in the car
mmmm true....but no.

The 04/05 Matrix XRS and 05 Corolla XRS 2ZZ-GE engine has been detuned to deliver more midrange torque as compared to the 03 Matrix XRS/Celica GT-S 2ZZ-GE version.

As a result the re-tuned 2ZZ-GE(for the 04/05 Matrix XRS, 05 Corolla XRS) engine achieves 127 ft lbs of torque @ 4400 rpm, as opposed to 130 ft lbs of torque @ 6800 rpm in Celica GT-S/03 Matrix XRS 2ZZ-GE.

Now, the Lotus has the same newly retuned 2ZZ-GE motor. But it makes the 190 hp and the 139 ft lbs. Only downfall, the torque is at 6800rpm, not the 4400rpm like the Corolla and the Matrix.

So yes indeedy...the Corolla XRS and the Lotus Elise share the SAME motor...just a differet ECU.

Oh, we also share the same tranny.

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^^ actually for best performance, you want your torque to peak at a high RPM rather then a low RPM because then you can take advantage of gearing.
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I forgot I started this thread, lol. The guy driving and his passenger were about 500lbs together as well, 50y.o guys with a big *** belly, ya know. lol

Those things are quick, and he was racing. I dont think he knows how to drive for one. I know they are 13 sec cars. My car hauls ***, but am lucky for high 13s at 10psi. If they only have 130-140ft lb, than I could easily take them, considering my tq is probably in the 200-220range. I wish I got a full pull on the dyno before I decided to say screw my car.
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