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Originally Posted by Titleist71
right weight, are they fairly close in weight....I don't think they are off hand.
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yeah im catholic, but people dont need to sit here and spam forums with that stuff.
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Originally Posted by Titleist71
3277 to be exact......It'd be a close match from a roll......I know for a fact it can't beat a STi. I witnessed it......who knows tho.
yeah, '05 MR has a curb weight of 3,285
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Rep Power: 330 i read on evo forums and saw what they're dynoing at. i just find it weird that a WRX loses 50-70hp btwn the crank and the wheels (227hp claimed, but most dynos are 150-170), but EVO's and STi's only lose 30-50 on average. it shows how much the advertised HP numbers are really a guess. makes me want an EVO even more than i already did.
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Rep Power: 0 yeah thanks for the good info guys...my friend has a srt4 with intake and he beat my friend rob's EVO MR by about a car from 30, 35, and 45mph roll's but then they went from a dig and the diffrence was so much that the srt couldnt make it up and my friend eric has a s2k and this dude can drive with i/h/e and he loses to the srt by about a 1/2 car everytime
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i read on evo forums and saw what they're dynoing at. i just find it weird that a WRX loses 50-70hp btwn the crank and the wheels (227hp claimed, but most dynos are 150-170), but EVO's and STi's only lose 30-50 on average. it shows how much the advertised HP numbers are really a guess. makes me want an EVO even more than i already did.
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Originally Posted by Titleist71
And on a track...no question, the EVo. The traction control via its computer is unreal.
Traction control on production cars is known to make a car slower on Track... Tie that in with the weight issue.... Unless the guy is Hooking (Getting the Inside rear wheel to be on the inside of the apex curb, forcing the rear end to lose traction on corner entry, and in the process spraying Debre on to the track, which is why you'll get tossed out of the race/open track event if you do it on purpous), a Stock S2000 is going to Eat a Stock EVO or Sti on a road course. (unless its Raining)
Trust me, this isnt some one talking out their ***. Its what I've seen, its what the guys that I hang out with have seen (Many of them Open track their cars)
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ZZyZx I'm not doubting you man, no way, I'm just saying that the EVo is awesome on the track and it's gonna be a challenge for the S2000 seeing the EVO is AWD and has a great traction controlling computer.
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Originally Posted by btuner
yeah thanks for the good info guys...my friend has a srt4 with intake and he beat my friend rob's EVO MR by about a car from 30, 35, and 45mph roll's but then they went from a dig and the diffrence was so much that the srt couldnt make it up and my friend eric has a s2k and this dude can drive with i/h/e and he loses to the srt by about a 1/2 car everytime
here, i'll show you video of a guy that CAN drive.
This is an S2k with i/e vs an SRT4 on 17 pounds of boost.
So not only does the S2k have less mods than your friend, but the SRT4 also has MORE boost than what the srt4 your friend raced has.
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Originally Posted by HorrorSkopes
^^^ tell your friend to take off I/H/E... it's only hurting his peformance. Stock s2000 doesnt need much to stay even or pass a stock or modded srt4.
what's hurting his performance is his driving. lol
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Originally Posted by btuner
s2k stock runs a 13.9???
as for the EVO vs S2k on the track debate, i'd tend to believe zzyzx consdiering the poor bastard probably camps out at his local auto-x track.
but i know the EVO is great at handling too. and titliest, while the traction control helps the EVO turn, it cuts down on its acceleration, hence the reason zzyzx says it can hurt performance more than help.
either way we'll see how the 2 do against each other this year in auto-x.
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Unless the guy is Hooking (Getting the Inside rear wheel to be on the inside of the apex curb, forcing the rear end to lose traction on corner entry, and in the process spraying Debre on to the track
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Originally Posted by Got Boost???
i was gonna say the exact same thing
I hate it when the AWD guys do that... But its the only way to get the dam things to turn in quickly on track (Becuase they still understeer more then they should).... its also a great way to be kicked out of the event.
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I just watched a base SRT-4, not a stage 1 or stage 2 or stage 3 but a base SRT-4 roll race a s2000 and they couldn't really pull on each other. I believe the website is either Clubrsx or AWJunkies.com. Anywho...food for thought.
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there's a gap in there, like 45-80 or so, where the S2k won't really pull. above 90, the S2k will start to pull pretty decently.
also, before 45mph, the S2k will pull.
assuming all drivers are equal.
there's a gap in there, like 45-80 or so, where the S2k won't really pull. above 90, the S2k will start to pull pretty decently.
also, before 45mph, the S2k will pull.
assuming all drivers are equal.
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Rep Power: 401 that means they probably started in the 40mph area. also depends on the year. the 04+ S2k doesn't seem to have the top end the 00-03 S2k does.
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Rep Power: 319 its a drivers race, just leave it at that. The only flaw with the s2000 is that you need to keep it in high rpms to get max performance.
Originally Posted by Zzyzx
Traction control on production cars is known to make a car slower on Track... Tie that in with the weight issue.... Unless the guy is Hooking (Getting the Inside rear wheel to be on the inside of the apex curb, forcing the rear end to lose traction on corner entry, and in the process spraying Debre on to the track, which is why you'll get tossed out of the race/open track event if you do it on purpous), a Stock S2000 is going to Eat a Stock EVO or Sti on a road course. (unless its Raining)
Trust me, this isnt some one talking out their ***. Its what I've seen, its what the guys that I hang out with have seen (Many of them Open track their cars)
Trust me, this isnt some one talking out their ***. Its what I've seen, its what the guys that I hang out with have seen (Many of them Open track their cars)
i never feel bad when i see an AWD guy mess up his car. thats what they get for talking so much **** and trying to hang with the big boys
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Rep Power: 381 HA! Reminds me of a conversation I had with one of the guys I autocross with... At the time he was driving a STX preped WRX. His complaint was that AWD allows Idiots to be fast, because AWD can cover up Many of the drivers Bad Habits. The problem with this is that AWD becomes a crutch.. which causes the new driver to not only develop some very bad habbits but slows down their learning curve.
He joked that the Idiots guide to driving AWD was this
1. If the car is Understeering, Floor it.
2. If the car is Oversteering, Floor it.
Basically, the standard responce for AWD in just about any circumstance is to Floor it.
Talk about Idiot proof Driving...
He joked that the Idiots guide to driving AWD was this
1. If the car is Understeering, Floor it.
2. If the car is Oversteering, Floor it.
Basically, the standard responce for AWD in just about any circumstance is to Floor it.
Talk about Idiot proof Driving...
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Originally Posted by WhiteCastle
its a drivers race, just leave it at that. The only flaw with the s2000 is that you need to keep it in high rpms to get max performance.
it's not a flaw by any means. it's a preference.
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