turbo neons are good to eat
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turbo neons are good to eat
So I'm talking to a guy I work with and he mentions he has a cousin who bought a neon SRT4. We were talking about cars, and he was telling me all these cars his cousin said his neon was faster than. lol. He said it's faster than the S2000, 350Z, M3, and he said he can hang with a viper. I said sure, if his definition of "hang" is to remain in the same state when the viper takes off.
I was telling him his neon wasn't faster than ANY of those cars. I told him what he truly can exepect to do with his neon. He called his cousin and told him everything I had said and his cousin was like your normal little ricer. So I said alright, the M3 and viper are faster than my S2000, and my S2000 is the same as a 350Z. I said I'd be glad to do a little friendly race.
So later yesterday I meet up with my friend when we go out to eat, and his cousin is there with his little yellow turbo shopping cart.
While we are eating his cousin is just telling me more BS than I think even black99vtec could come up with. About how the neon is faster than all these cars both on the track and at the 1/4 mile. He just kept going on and on telling me about all these kill stories he has read online.
I'm talking about auto-x and about how the neon can lose to a civic in auto-x and he's like, well the neon wins against EVO's, S2k's, and corvettes all the time. lol. Then he tried to tell me that at the "world championship races" this year a neon SRT4 took 1st and 2nd. lol. wtf, he's making up races now? hahahahaha. The whole time his cousin (my friend) is like
So finally we go out and take a run on the freeway. Clear of traffic we slow down to about 40 and hit it. Through 2nd I gain about a car on him. Into 3rd, I stop pulling and it stays about even. As I'm finishing 3rd and into 4th, I'm pulling and I shut down at 110mph.
We go again with almost the exact same result, except I pull a little more (not sure if he missed a shift or what).
Afterwards he would NOT believe my car was stock. He said no way in hell was my S2k stock cuz he said he raced one before and left him in the dust.
My friend/his cousin tried to tell him my car was stock except for intake, but he still thinks I'm running nitrous or something. lol
I was telling him his neon wasn't faster than ANY of those cars. I told him what he truly can exepect to do with his neon. He called his cousin and told him everything I had said and his cousin was like your normal little ricer. So I said alright, the M3 and viper are faster than my S2000, and my S2000 is the same as a 350Z. I said I'd be glad to do a little friendly race.
So later yesterday I meet up with my friend when we go out to eat, and his cousin is there with his little yellow turbo shopping cart.
While we are eating his cousin is just telling me more BS than I think even black99vtec could come up with. About how the neon is faster than all these cars both on the track and at the 1/4 mile. He just kept going on and on telling me about all these kill stories he has read online.
I'm talking about auto-x and about how the neon can lose to a civic in auto-x and he's like, well the neon wins against EVO's, S2k's, and corvettes all the time. lol. Then he tried to tell me that at the "world championship races" this year a neon SRT4 took 1st and 2nd. lol. wtf, he's making up races now? hahahahaha. The whole time his cousin (my friend) is like
So finally we go out and take a run on the freeway. Clear of traffic we slow down to about 40 and hit it. Through 2nd I gain about a car on him. Into 3rd, I stop pulling and it stays about even. As I'm finishing 3rd and into 4th, I'm pulling and I shut down at 110mph.
We go again with almost the exact same result, except I pull a little more (not sure if he missed a shift or what).
Afterwards he would NOT believe my car was stock. He said no way in hell was my S2k stock cuz he said he raced one before and left him in the dust.
My friend/his cousin tried to tell him my car was stock except for intake, but he still thinks I'm running nitrous or something. lol 
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Rep Power: 0 maaaaaan nice to hear you shuttin him up (well not really he still is goin on denying your car bein stock eh? hehe). whenever i encounter people who like just keep talkin and talkin thinkin they "know" stuff about cars bein faster than other cars... i dont know what to do. i feel wierd just nodding my head along... then i feel wierder trying to argue with them since im usually younger than them. arrrggg....
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
He said it's faster than the S2000, 350Z, M3, and he said he can hang with a viper. I said sure, if his definition of "hang" is to remain in the same state when the viper takes off.
It makes me happy when S2Kman tells stories...
Thx for shutting up an ignorant Neon driver for the rest of us S2Kman. I love it when people get put in their place and then go into a heavy stage of denile.
....hate neons..neon is neon ..fvk srt4..haha 
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Rep Power: 399 The S2k doesn't come in auto. the guy driving the S2000 probably didn't know how to drive. if its the one with the video you can hear the guy bouncing off his rev limiter and shifting slower than a grandma with no arms.
basically when someone says "oh but there's a video of an SRT4 beating an S2000" my response basically is ok, if I had a video camera in every race, there'd be a good 4 or 5 videos floating around of an S2000 beating a neon srt4.
basically when someone says "oh but there's a video of an SRT4 beating an S2000" my response basically is ok, if I had a video camera in every race, there'd be a good 4 or 5 videos floating around of an S2000 beating a neon srt4.
Last edited by S2000man01; Jan 30, 2005 at 04:43 PM.
s2000 will eat the neons in top end. Although the neons are torquey, s2000 will be higher top end and with an s2k fixed up, the neon will have no challenge whatsoever. Id rather get a type-s than srt-4 anyday.
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Rep Power: 306 ACTUALLY....those fvckers are pretty damn quick, with the right people, and the right drivers
'04 SRT4
Induction - Big Turbo
WHP - 413.0
60' - 1.741
1/8 Mile ET&MPH - 7.441@95.52
1/4 Mile ET&MPH - 11.501@121.99
and the slip
2nd fastest in the country on stock motor
Fastest in the country w/out Nitrous
and is privatly owned by an older gentelman, not a lil shop wh0re
'04 SRT4
Induction - Big Turbo
WHP - 413.0
60' - 1.741
1/8 Mile ET&MPH - 7.441@95.52
1/4 Mile ET&MPH - 11.501@121.99
and the slip
2nd fastest in the country on stock motor
Fastest in the country w/out Nitrous
and is privatly owned by an older gentelman, not a lil shop wh0re
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Originally Posted by ShoelessEX
ACTUALLY....those fvckers are pretty damn quick, with the right people, and the right drivers
'04 SRT4
Induction - Big Turbo
WHP - 413.0
60' - 1.741
1/8 Mile ET&MPH - 7.441@95.52
1/4 Mile ET&MPH - 11.501@121.99
and the slip
2nd fastest in the country on stock motor
Fastest in the country w/out Nitrous
and is privatly owned by an older gentelman, not a lil shop wh0re
'04 SRT4
Induction - Big Turbo
WHP - 413.0
60' - 1.741
1/8 Mile ET&MPH - 7.441@95.52
1/4 Mile ET&MPH - 11.501@121.99
and the slip
2nd fastest in the country on stock motor
Fastest in the country w/out Nitrous
and is privatly owned by an older gentelman, not a lil shop wh0re
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LOL you know im just playin' with ya =)
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Originally Posted by ShoelessEX
ACTUALLY....those fvckers are pretty damn quick, with the right people, and the right drivers
'04 SRT4
Induction - Big Turbo
WHP - 413.0
60' - 1.741
1/8 Mile ET&MPH - 7.441@95.52
1/4 Mile ET&MPH - 11.501@121.99
and the slip
2nd fastest in the country on stock motor
Fastest in the country w/out Nitrous
and is privatly owned by an older gentelman, not a lil shop wh0re
'04 SRT4
Induction - Big Turbo
WHP - 413.0
60' - 1.741
1/8 Mile ET&MPH - 7.441@95.52
1/4 Mile ET&MPH - 11.501@121.99
and the slip
2nd fastest in the country on stock motor
Fastest in the country w/out Nitrous
and is privatly owned by an older gentelman, not a lil shop wh0re
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
this isn't a d*ck swinging contest
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^^^ lol
... anyways, there is a difference. The stock s2k engine is pumping out 240hp. The srt4 engine is pumping out 230hp, BUT that's with the turbo. Take out the turbo and the engine is pumping out about 160hp-170hp. So in essence, you still have the N/A advantage. When you strap on a turbo to your s2k your working w/ already 240hp plus whatever the turbo power gives you, hint's why you should have the advantage. There are a few 500hp srt4, but that's w/ alot of engine and tunning work done. BUT im sure the stock srt4 engine can last longer on boost and hold more boost than the s2k engine, simply because the engine was made for F/I.
... anyways, there is a difference. The stock s2k engine is pumping out 240hp. The srt4 engine is pumping out 230hp, BUT that's with the turbo. Take out the turbo and the engine is pumping out about 160hp-170hp. So in essence, you still have the N/A advantage. When you strap on a turbo to your s2k your working w/ already 240hp plus whatever the turbo power gives you, hint's why you should have the advantage. There are a few 500hp srt4, but that's w/ alot of engine and tunning work done. BUT im sure the stock srt4 engine can last longer on boost and hold more boost than the s2k engine, simply because the engine was made for F/I.
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Originally Posted by ShoelessEX
Never said it was...plus....I dont have a d1ck to swing
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Originally Posted by HorrorSkopes
BUT im sure the stock srt4 engine can last longer on boost and hold more boost than the s2k engine, simply because the engine was made for F/I.
the S2k engine can take far more boost and be more reliable doing it than the srt4 engine in stock form.
take an S2k slap on the turbo, crank the boost to say 22-24psi and the car will fly down the 1/4 mile. do the same to a stock neon engine without building up internals first, and chances are, the engine will turn into a heap of worthless crap far before the S2k's engine does.
(of course this is under the assumption that the neon isn't ALREADY a heap of worthless crap
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
a common misconception is that an engine that comes with a turbo will be able to take more boost than an engine that didn't.
the S2k engine can take far more boost and be more reliable doing it than the srt4 engine in stock form.
take an S2k slap on the turbo, crank the boost to say 22-24psi and the car will fly down the 1/4 mile. do the same to a stock neon engine without building up internals first, and chances are, the engine will turn into a heap of worthless crap far before the S2k's engine does.
(of course this is under the assumption that the neon isn't ALREADY a heap of worthless crap )
the S2k engine can take far more boost and be more reliable doing it than the srt4 engine in stock form.
take an S2k slap on the turbo, crank the boost to say 22-24psi and the car will fly down the 1/4 mile. do the same to a stock neon engine without building up internals first, and chances are, the engine will turn into a heap of worthless crap far before the S2k's engine does.
(of course this is under the assumption that the neon isn't ALREADY a heap of worthless crap
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Originally Posted by HorrorSkopes
Ok, lets say over a 2-3year period, a srt4 w/ 16psi and a s2k w/ 23psi... which engine dies first? My point was over time, not just down the quater mile. You are right, the neon (frame, chasis) is crap... but I beg to differ about the engine.
in other words, if you ran the srt4 at 18psi for 2-3 years, and ran the S2k at 18psi for 2-3 years (this has already been done with the S2k), the answer is still that the S2k will be more reliable in the long run. the S2k engine is simply built far superior to that of the neon engine. The S2k already has done to it from the factory, what you would do to an engine if you wanted to run high boost: forged internals, lightweight built valve train with titanium and sintered steel parts, skirtless pistons to reduce side load, etc. last i checked the good ol neon doesn't have any of that.
i'm just trying to show you that it's a common misconception to think a car that comes with a turbo will be more reliable in the long run than a car that wasn't.
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