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IMO stock for stock it's a drivers race. Now I know of a couple people around here that have put about a $1000 worth of bolt-ons(boost controller, intake, pulley, DR's and exhaust dump) and are running high 12's in their Srt-4. I personally hate the fact that it's still a neon, but the straightline performance for the money can't be beat. S2k is 10k more than the SRT4. If I had the cash I would take the S2k over the Srt4 cause it looks 10x better,Drop top, RWD and a reliable NA honda motor under the hood. There a lot of young kids driving these things that don't have a clue. Take heed though because with the right driver and a few simple mods the srt4 can put a hurting on some of those with fairly quick cars.
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Originally Posted by Redline04
IMO stock for stock it's a drivers race. Now I know of a couple people around here that have put about a $1000 worth of bolt-ons(boost controller, intake, pulley, DR's and exhaust dump) and are running high 12's in their Srt-4.
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ladybugRT-4. i'd take anything over it.. except maybe a regular neon, cavalier, or a mustang..
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Rep Power: 380 Funny, The only Club racing the SRT-4 has done decently in is the SCCA's Touring 2 Class where two SRT's came in 4th and 6th... for pro racing.... Havent really noticed many. as far as autocross..... Lets see.... Stock they run D-Stock, last year at the national finals... one came in 5th. Beat by a couple of BMW 330 Ci's and one Integra Type R (Which came in 1st). once they are preped for Street prepaired (CSP)... One came in 27th and one came in 35th.... (dead last, due to mechanical failure, other wise they looked to be poised for the mid 20s's based on teh times they put down before the thing broke)... Personally, I've seen an SRT-4 get its *** handed to it by a smattering of Miatas at the Atwater Pro Solo last year.
Locally, I have yet to be beaten by one.....
Given all of this, The SRT-4 is a decent car in most respects... however it is not nearly the Uber car most SRT owners tote it to be.
Locally, I have yet to be beaten by one.....
Given all of this, The SRT-4 is a decent car in most respects... however it is not nearly the Uber car most SRT owners tote it to be.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
For $500 I can throw on 4.77 gears and be into the 12's..... (gears have become a very common mod for S2000 owners, especially those with FI)
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Originally Posted by HorrorSkopes
sorry s200man, on your stock car, throwing on 4.77 gears would not having you running 12's all day, mid 13's... possible low 13's, but not 12's (not even high 12's), you would need a few more supporting mods to hit 12's. Also, last time I heard, 4.77 gears cost close to 600 bucks and that's not including labor. Plus, why would you use 4.77 gears on a F/I s2000, I heard that's not the best gears to go with (try using 4.44 or 4.57)
however, if i can run 13.7-13.9, 4.77's will put me into 12's or DAMN near into 12's. that's a MASSIVE change to the gearing.
our stock gearing is essentially 4.756 for a final drive ratio. adding the 4.77 gears puts us to a whopping 5.53 final drive ratio. that's a huge change in gearing.
there is one guy locally by me who has JUST the 4.77 gears and intake, and he runs about a 13.1 on a regular basis.
and no, the 4.77 gears cost $300 plus labor.
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Rep Power: 0 Ive driven the neon. Its no big deal. 1st gear is so useless in that car. All it does is spin. I take off real slowly and no traction. I dont see the point in all that power in a FWD
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Rep Power: 380 Every time (its a tradition now) we get in to one of these SRT-4 threads I have to post (Because its still true) .... I still havent been beaten by one (and I still only have 127HP, if that)
So when you tell me a Neon can do a 12 sec 1/4 mile it really means nothing to me. simply because I've never cared about straight line performance.
So when you tell me a Neon can do a 12 sec 1/4 mile it really means nothing to me. simply because I've never cared about straight line performance.
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Rep Power: 397 ^^Not to mention right when they were released they had a supposed recall b/c the shift ***** were comming off. Can you imagine that, slamin gears then *pop* ROFL LMAO 
hey s2000, how tall r u?? I love the s2000 but when they were first released, I went to look at them ... Beautiful, until my 6'4" skinny self sat down .... my head stuck out like 3" over the roofline ... my brother is .5" taller than me and was like "I'm gonna get one" ... I just laughed and frowned ..... such a nice car, if you're under 6' I guess ...
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Originally Posted by vector4
the fanboys are getting pretty smart these days... they've managed to figure out that their $30,000 honda has a superior engine to a $20,000 neon.
you compare the honda to cars actually in it's class, like the $60,000 boxster S, or the Z4.
oh unless of course you want to do a trunk space competition.
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hey s2000, how tall r u?? I love the s2000 but when they were first released, I went to look at them ... Beautiful, until my 6'4" skinny self sat down .... my head stuck out like 3" over the roofline ... my brother is .5" taller than me and was like "I'm gonna get one" ... I just laughed and frowned ..... such a nice car, if you're under 6' I guess ...
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Originally Posted by Redline04
one of 3 12sec SRT's here in shreveport I was talking about^^^^^^
what, do you want me to get one of the 500+whp S2000 owners to post too? what's the point? 
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Originally Posted by deciuss
i have never been impresed by the srt-4 at all. looks are horrible and preformance well not so good. compared to a civic they are good but to others they arnt
i thought i heard it all until i came into this thread. 30,000 mid engine rwd vs fwd car you should be ashamed if one even keeps up with your, its just like club rsx you guys have an inferioty complex..
face it the car is faster than most of you will ever...
the srt4 engine is tough as nails, yes there are a few fast s2k's but look at how many srt4 owners are in the 300+ hp and 500hp on an srt4 is alot but ti doesnt take as many mods as you want it to bigger turbo and manifold just to make the power. its been what 2 years now and you guys are still coming up with stupid excuses?
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"When you are putting down High Torque, FWD is not the platform you want"
as far as an inferiority complex or making excuses... I still havent been beaten by one. Guess most SRT-4 Owners arnt intrested in making the thing turn.
"When you are putting down High Torque, FWD is not the platform you want"
as far as an inferiority complex or making excuses... I still havent been beaten by one.
Guess most SRT-4 Owners arnt intrested in making the thing turn. Registered!!
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
500 HP on a FWD car sounds like an exceptionally bad idea.... especially for what I like to do with my cars. To quote Winning a race drivers handbook
"When you are putting down High Torque, FWD is not the platform you want"
as far as an inferiority complex or making excuses... I still havent been beaten by one. Guess most SRT-4 Owners arnt intrested in making the thing turn.
"When you are putting down High Torque, FWD is not the platform you want"
as far as an inferiority complex or making excuses... I still havent been beaten by one.
Guess most SRT-4 Owners arnt intrested in making the thing turn.As far as auto x and srt4's well see what they do when the srt acr comes out. maybe itll be different. I have no probelms handling i drive a first gen.
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Originally Posted by Noodlez
30,000 mid engine rwd vs fwd car you should be ashamed if one even keeps up with your, its just like club rsx you guys have an inferioty complex..
the srt4 engine is tough as nails, yes there are a few fast s2k's but look at how many srt4 owners are in the 300+ hp and 500hp on an srt4 is alot but ti doesnt take as many mods as you want it to bigger turbo and manifold just to make the power. its been what 2 years now and you guys are still coming up with stupid excuses?
the srt4 engine is tough as nails, yes there are a few fast s2k's but look at how many srt4 owners are in the 300+ hp and 500hp on an srt4 is alot but ti doesnt take as many mods as you want it to bigger turbo and manifold just to make the power. its been what 2 years now and you guys are still coming up with stupid excuses?
And stupid excuses? what excuses? i dont see excuses anywhere?? and bigger turbo, more hp, blah blah. How much money does it take to get a neon into 500+ whp?? $6,000? Funny... that's what it takes to get an S2k to do the same.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
inferiority complex.... right i have an inferiority complex to a sh*tbox with a turbo who's ONLY comparable feature is a similar 1/4 mile time.
And stupid excuses? what excuses? i dont see excuses anywhere?? and bigger turbo, more hp, blah blah. How much money does it take to get a neon into 500+ whp?? $6,000? Funny... that's what it takes to get an S2k to do the same.
And stupid excuses? what excuses? i dont see excuses anywhere?? and bigger turbo, more hp, blah blah. How much money does it take to get a neon into 500+ whp?? $6,000? Funny... that's what it takes to get an S2k to do the same.
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
Every time (its a tradition now) we get in to one of these SRT-4 threads I have to post (Because its still true) .... I still havent been beaten by one (and I still only have 127HP, if that)
So when you tell me a Neon can do a 12 sec 1/4 mile it really means nothing to me. simply because I've never cared about straight line performance.
So when you tell me a Neon can do a 12 sec 1/4 mile it really means nothing to me. simply because I've never cared about straight line performance.
Anyways, why the hate on the srt4 engine? It's built TOUGH. The s2000 is pretty much maxed out from the factor. I/H/E can somewhat take power away instead of gaining. The s2000 engine is good, but it's not superior to the A855 (srt4 engine), only GOOD gains is from the SC or Turbo. Also s2000man, please show me a link where you can get 4.77 gears for $300, my friend would seriously like to know (please no ebay auction). Also, back on the 4.77 gears, if these gears can or get close to the 12's in an s2000, why are people wasting 1000's of dollars more for a SC or TC to run 12's, if they can just get gears for loads cheaper.
I also remember you saying the s2000 has better performance than the 350z, well if that's so, how does a 250whp all motor 350z stay @ the door of a 280whp supercharge s2000?
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Originally Posted by HorrorSkopes
^^^ in the same sentence, an srt4 owner can say... i still havent been beaten by a vic, because I can careless about the track, when Im on the freeway or @ a light.
