found this type s vs. gts video
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GTS should not walk a type s 
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Originally Posted by vtecd17
factory 180hp GTS vs factory 200whp type s.....Type s shoulda kept up better.
I have yet to see a stock Type S throw down 200whp. Any dyno plots or dyno vids to back this up?
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Rep Power: 0 haha what I see on the video is the dude in the type S was in the wrong gear causing his take off to seem much slower.
you've also gota be smokin crack if you think the celica is heavier. give or take a few the celica weighs around 2500 lbs and the type s weighs in around 2800 lbs.
stock for stock it's completely a drivers race. this is widely accepted on BOTH the celica sites AND the RSX sites.
factory rated the celica is at 180 the rsx is at 200hp
as far as WHP the celica is between 151-161whp and the type S is around 165 - 175 ish
modded - the type S has a far better aftermarket and responds MUCH better to mods. properly modded the type s has a much better topend due to the bigger engine and more power. type S has a 2.0 vs the celias 1.8 how ever with some minor weight reduction the celica can easily reset the balance.
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you've also gota be smokin crack if you think the celica is heavier. give or take a few the celica weighs around 2500 lbs and the type s weighs in around 2800 lbs.
stock for stock it's completely a drivers race. this is widely accepted on BOTH the celica sites AND the RSX sites.
factory rated the celica is at 180 the rsx is at 200hp
as far as WHP the celica is between 151-161whp and the type S is around 165 - 175 ish
modded - the type S has a far better aftermarket and responds MUCH better to mods. properly modded the type s has a much better topend due to the bigger engine and more power. type S has a 2.0 vs the celias 1.8 how ever with some minor weight reduction the celica can easily reset the balance.
Hope this clarifys things for ya
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Rep Power: 0 I don't think he had a problem shifting as much as he probably didnt downshift before they started. cause if you watch closely he gets the jump and then the celica walks him. only way that would happen is if the celica was in lift and the rsx wasnt in vtec. cause with a jump like that the rsx should have held the lead.
notice that once they go a lil ways they stay even and neither car pulls. ha dthe rsx been in the right gear it woulda been a very close race IMO. the edge shouldve gone to whoever got the jump.
notice that once they go a lil ways they stay even and neither car pulls. ha dthe rsx been in the right gear it woulda been a very close race IMO. the edge shouldve gone to whoever got the jump.
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Rep Power: 338 ^^^ youre right about the wrong gear, but I got my thoughts from when they had the camera on the back of the cars and they drove off 1 after the other... thats when the RSX sounded like it missed 2nd. (or maybe he did that on purpose, who knows??!)
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Originally Posted by Farage
very nice vid but my friend took countless gt-s' in his type-s. im pretty sure the dude in the acura was not the best driver.
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Rep Power: 0 the type S actually had the jump I'm pretty sure it's as simple as him starting in the wrong gear. the fact that they stayed even shows he his driving was on a similar level to the guy in the gts.
run side by side with equal drivers the rsx is NOT gonna walk the gts. they are about as equal as 2 cars can get. this has been proven time and again and is accepted by people in the rsx community as well as celica. This of course does not take into account bad drivers. a bad driver can make ANY car look bad. my favorite example is a guy in a corvette I saw run a 14.3 and lost to a civic hatch that ran a 14.0. the civic trapped around 97 mph while the corvette trapped 119 mph. clearly that corvette was WAY faster then the moron behind the wheel lol. the rsx's and celicas trap almost identical in the 1/4
I'm pretty sure it's as simple as him starting in the wrong gear. the fact that they stayed even shows he his driving was on a similar level to the guy in the gts. run side by side with equal drivers the rsx is NOT gonna walk the gts. they are about as equal as 2 cars can get. this has been proven time and again and is accepted by people in the rsx community as well as celica. This of course does not take into account bad drivers. a bad driver can make ANY car look bad. my favorite example is a guy in a corvette I saw run a 14.3 and lost to a civic hatch that ran a 14.0. the civic trapped around 97 mph while the corvette trapped 119 mph. clearly that corvette was WAY faster then the moron behind the wheel lol. the rsx's and celicas trap almost identical in the 1/4
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Originally Posted by Farage
very nice vid but my friend took countless gt-s' in his type-s. im pretty sure the dude in the acura was not the best driver.
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Rep Power: 0 a stock rsx-s vs. would take a stock celica gt-s. thats if both drivers are equally skilled. the celica will not be owned but the type-s would have about 5-6 cars on it by 80.
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Originally Posted by 00celicagts6spd
I don't think he had a problem shifting as much as he probably didnt downshift before they started. cause if you watch closely he gets the jump and then the celica walks him. only way that would happen is if the celica was in lift and the rsx wasnt in vtec. cause with a jump like that the rsx should have held the lead.
notice that once they go a lil ways they stay even and neither car pulls. ha dthe rsx been in the right gear it woulda been a very close race IMO. the edge shouldve gone to whoever got the jump.
notice that once they go a lil ways they stay even and neither car pulls. ha dthe rsx been in the right gear it woulda been a very close race IMO. the edge shouldve gone to whoever got the jump.
Nub question....
What the hell is lift?
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Rep Power: 0 the VVTL-I is about the same as I-VTEC they are different ways of doing a similar function.
I don't think you even comprhend how much of a power difference it would take to do that. 
also on average both cars run low 15's - high 14's stock. equal drivers would be a VERY close race. we're talkin inches NOT car lengths.
check by www.clubrsx.com you'll find this is a widely accepted statement.
not gonna argue looks cause thats a personal preference. I happen to like the looks of the celica better.
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a stock rsx-s vs. would take a stock celica gt-s. thats if both drivers are equally skilled. the celica will not be owned but the type-s would have about 5-6 cars on it by 80.
also on average both cars run low 15's - high 14's stock. equal drivers would be a VERY close race. we're talkin inches NOT car lengths.
check by www.clubrsx.com you'll find this is a widely accepted statement.
not gonna argue looks cause thats a personal preference. I happen to like the looks of the celica better.
