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My friedn wants to race me in his 03 auto cavileir. all he has is a muffler that he is so proud that he bought from nopi. i know i can beat him for sure on the bottle. but i don't like spraying on a race thats not worth anything. so who would win? im thinking i would still win with out NO2. Here are my mods.

JDM D17a2 w/modified DX harness(who woulda thought that the Japanese harness would be backwards. lol)
cold air(ebay)
mugen header/ collector pipe
Greddy Cat Back
titantium valve springs
copper head gasket(Made at local speed shop)
Apexi VAFC II
Venom injestors
Venom Fuel Rail
AEM fuel Pump
Custom Wet Kit w/ Purge adjustable jets 35-100(built off Ebay)
OBD2 Vtec computer

 
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My money is on you they are pretty fast but i dont think that fast and **** just have the bottle ready and if he is gonna win hit that **** and you win. Its going to be a win win cituation for you my friend. Bet him some money so it can be worth your spray

 
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you've got a stick vs auto. i'd hope that you can beat him without nos, depending on how much that nice wing weighs, and also that you don't miss a gear.

 
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Yeah one thing that sucks about manual is if your inconsistent you will lose when you shouldnt

 
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not a bad thing but, you have alot of unique mods You would win even if you missed a gear with no NOS

 
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why do you have a jdm motor? why would you even bother?

where did you get the titanium valve springs ? ... and what is the use of bothering putting them in in a nearly stock motor?

 
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i bought the car from a junk yard for real cheap cause the engine was locked up i bouth the jdm for $550 with computer for it and was an easy bolt in for a low milage engine. i had the springs modified from a D16Z head setup, i put them in for the higher rpms when spraying so a valve dosen't drop or anything like that. and its better when you have the vtec kicking in at lower rpms they handle the stress a alot more than stock. the copper gasket is the same reason mainly for spraying when the compression goes up.

 
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anyways arn't those things rated at like 160hp or something, and he his an idiot and likes to shift manually and do lower rpm drops and ****.

 
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on your mod list! JDM d17a2

 
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Mugen header. HAHAHA! Dx wire harness with Vtec ecu, um no.

 
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cold air(ebay)
mugen header/ collector pipe
Greddy Cat Back

Hmmm, that's all im seeing for as POWER engine mods, even thou he's auto, he'll probably pull, they put about 140-145hp to the wheels and more trq, thats for sure.

 
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those cars only get 140 to the crank so figure 120 to the wheels at best due to the fact that it is an auto. A auto also weighs in at 2700lbs and change. I would say that would make it close to even with a auto civic and this guy has a stick. Also if he can't get it done with that he has NOS

 
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i saw a race between a 7thgen auto and a 03 or 04 cav that was a 4 door auto and bottom line cav, it was a rental car, and the 7thgen had intake, header, exhaust, pulley...and the 7thgen took a jump at the start and the cav reeled him in and was about to pull but the civic stopped as soon as the cav got to his door. So be careful against some of them cavs i guess.

 
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Your mods at first seem cool, but after another look I realized most of those are like nothing. I'm guess they everything gave you 10-15whp tuned over stock. So that won't help much. If the other car is the supercharged version, you'll lose.

 
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your compression doesn't go up when you spray. you're thinking turbo or sc. that makes your compression go up as you increase the boost. spraying simply oxidizes the air going into your engine, thus causing the mixture to become more explosive and more powerful. this DOES burn a lot hotter, but it doesn't increase your compression.

and you dont put springs/valves in for spraying. you generally put them in when you are going to increase your rev limit, to prevent valve FLOAT. not "valve dropping" as you put it.

and not to sound like an ***, but from the knowledge you've demonstrated, or lack there-of i should say, i doubt you have half the mods you even listed. USDM DX harness on a jdm civic engine? sure. when kangaroos take over canada.

 
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Exactly, that will be the day when Mugen starts making parts for the d17, However i REALLY doubt it!

 
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Motor trend did an article on it and they said the chevy is fast but they would still buy the honda lmao. thats cool

 
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I don't think theres anyone who would go to the trouble of importing a D17 from -Japan- to the US. The shipping on the engine alone would be far more than it was even worth. And if they did, I really doubt they'd junk it instead of trying to hawk it off on Ebay. If the guy at the junkyard told you it was a JDM motor, go there and ask for your money back.

 
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The thread was about if he will win !!! And yes he will even if he has to take the POOODUNG way out and boost

 
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ok really not that hard of and engine harness swap. you have to change over a few plugs here and there and run 3 new wires into the plug that plugs into the ecu. the vtec silinoid, oil pressure,and somw ither one i can't think of right now. the main diffrence is that the jdm harness is backwards due to the location of the steering colum and computer in the japanese cars. check it out www.alljajaneseengines.com. thats where i got it from. im not sure what the engine goes for now. we've droped a few jdm engines in cars my neighbor has a 95 dx with a modifids dx harness for a JDM D16Z engine, and we modifies the harness of a non-vtec ls integra to put in a jdm 18c head. and we are currently wiring up a JDM H22 with a modified F22 harness, with is the same just no vtec controls for the plug. you guys my ask where put d-series engines back in the cars? because they are cheap and reliable and can do stuff to them cheap to make them a little faster, there not race cars we don't want the to be so why put $6000 into a swap that will gain me a whole second if that over an engine that i bought and modded that cost all together maybe $1700, from a car that i bought as a daily driver. if i want a fast car i'll stick to the F-bodies that we have been building for years. i just don't feel like spending the gas and maintnence prices on the V8's. and i like my yes JDM powered civic with a DX harness. if you want proff of the whole harness wiring mods email and i'll show you the pics of what you have to do i was going to put attachments on this but the pics are to big.

 
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oh yeah the parts modded D16Z springs, and the header/ collector pipe off ebay. they make them for all the D-series cars. my best friend has it on her 93 with a D15a

 
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again, first you post about NAWS raising your compression, but then post this other crap about your engine swap.

so im still inclined to think you're full of it. so please explain where you got a jdm d17 and why someone would bother importing one into the US in the first place, considering there is no power difference between USDM and JDM d17.

 
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if you would bother to read the last post you would see the website, of the place i got it from. in japan there is aolt of laws causeing tons of japanese parts becoming avalible to americans. they import these parts in bulk and they get them real cheap. with in terms lets them sell stuff really cheap. so until you get some kind of knowledge about getting parts from japan from componies that imoprt them, please do not sayt i don't have what i have. when in fact i do. jdm parts are cheap. check th website posted above. they seel entire front clips if you want it. they also sell american engines it just so happenes when i got an engine they had a jdm. my neighbor helped me with the install, he has been a mechanic for 30 years and used to race cars in hungary and france, seeing as he was born and raised in hungry. so i htink he would most likely know a little more about cars than the people in these forums.

 
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I have some land in Florida I will sell you really cheap It is a bit close to the Everglades, but I am shure you will like it

 
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no all good i don't like aligators.

 
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i guess i still dont understand how at any point, you can get a jdm d17 cheaper than a usdm d17. they're the same damn thing, with the exception that you have to ship the jdm over from japan at some point.

what im saying is i simply dont understand why a company would do that, to sell a jdm d17 here when anyone can get them usdm d17's cheaper.....

by the way, you keep throwing that website around, and it's not helping your cause.... www.alljajaneseengines.com which is what you posted, does not exist. thinking you spelled japanese wrong, i tried www.alljapaneseengines.com

nope.... owned there too.

so so far you've claimed you have a jdm d17 in your car from a business that doesn't seem to exist....

 
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in fact, after searching google for a good half hour, i can't find a single place that even sells a jdm d17...

 
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I think someone just might have told him that it was a Japanese D17. Very soon he'll buy his Ferio RS grill and then he'll be JDM fo life yo.

 
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I have a nice set of JDM floor mats I will sell you

 
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JDM d17 is a rare rare engine. in fact, its so rare in the US that they dont exist. please dont quesiton the kid's credability.