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Old Dec 5, 2004
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I have some JDM turn signal fluid and JDM muffler bearings. I will let the turn singnal fluid go cheap there is only a half of a bottle.
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by the way, i looked into it. according to the helm manual, there is no difference in the wiring of the jdm ecu for a d17 and the usdm ecu for a d17.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
by the way, i looked into it. according to the helm manual, there is no difference in the wiring of the jdm ecu for a d17 and the usdm ecu for a d17.
except for the fact that it is backards? yes really no diffrence but the dx on a vtec a few slight diffrences but nothing major. it is backwards because of the location of the computer and steering setup.
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I may be wrong, but I thought that all of the 01-05 civics in Japan were type Rs. If that is the case there is no D17 from japan because all of their vics have Ks in them.
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Originally Posted by ajhdragon
except for the fact that it is backards? yes really no diffrence but the dx on a vtec a few slight diffrences but nothing major. it is backwards because of the location of the computer and steering setup.
no. according to the helm wiring guide manual, the harness of a usdm will fit into the ecu of a jdm d17, and vice versa. in other words, they are the same part, same wire orientation/plug input/output.

and by the way, your dx ecu will not work on an ex d17. so can you explain that to me as well?
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lol dude you're so full of crap, or your friend lied and has no idea what he's talking about. I found the specs, wiring manual. the rest of the world gets mostly hatchback civics, in the form of type r, type s, honda civic CTDi, etc.

the ONLY OTHER CIVIC in the world that has a 1.7 liter is the Honda Civic Ferio. And guess what cheech. it has the EXACT SAME wiring harness and EXACT SAME wiring diagram as a USDM civic. The parts are totally interchangeable. It's a D17A2 engine, with the exact same specs as the USDM civic. The fact that the steering wheel is located on the right hand side does NOT change the orientation of the engine or it's wiring.

also the "7th gen civic" was available in europe and japan starting with model year 2000. a whole year before our civic became available.
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see.... right hand drive does NOT change a damn thing as far as the layout goes, with the exception of the power steering module and brake module.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
lol dude you're so full of crap, or your friend lied and has no idea what he's talking about. I found the specs, wiring manual. the rest of the world gets mostly hatchback civics, in the form of type r, type s, honda civic CTDi, etc.

the ONLY OTHER CIVIC in the world that has a 1.7 liter is the Honda Civic Ferio. And guess what cheech. it has the EXACT SAME wiring harness and EXACT SAME wiring diagram as a USDM civic. The parts are totally interchangeable. It's a D17A2 engine, with the exact same specs as the USDM civic. The fact that the steering wheel is located on the right hand side does NOT change the orientation of the engine or it's wiring.

also the "7th gen civic" was available in europe and japan starting with model year 2000. a whole year before our civic became available.
actually the wiring harness is the only difference on those cars, it is reversed. As far a swap goes it is the same as putting in a type R k series all that you have to do is use YOUR wiring harness (assuming a K into a SI or rsx). Well he stated that he had to modify his harness and the JDM would not work so this may be the case, but I really doubt it is true. Anyways all that he has to do is take a picture of the engine bay with a note that says "bgoetz and S2000 are idiots for flaming me" to prove that he did not pull the pic off of the internet and we are , but I really doubt he will do that because I don't think that it is true

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Originally Posted by S2000man01
pic of our engine bay

see.... right hand drive does NOT change a damn thing as far as the layout goes, with the exception of the power steering module and brake module.

S2000man01, stop fighting and post another one of your funny kill stories.

Actually the ownage in this thread is quite funny too.
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JDM is a loose term these days.. it really depends on your defintion. Alot of replacement engine companies here in the US import theyre engines directly from Japan and rebuild them here. Maybe its one of those type of engines. Supposedly in Japan they have very strict laws when it comes to older engines. I read that when an engine in Japan gets to ~40,000 miles it needs be replaced or something like that. Not that 40,000 is alot, but the laws are different there.
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Originally Posted by S2000man01
in fact, after searching google for a good half hour, i can't find a single place that even sells a jdm d17...

JDM? lol...

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Originally Posted by flotsamm
uh, maybe you need to read the rest of the thread.

i said i can't find ANYTHING about a JDM D17 engine.

not just jdm engines. i'm not that retarded.

and no, the site you linked also does NOT sell JDM d17's.
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dont underestimate a cavalier. my best friend has an 02 LS sport which has a 2.2 ecotec with 140 horse and 150 torque. EVERY time i race him i get my *** handed to me. the only way i beat him is if we ever get over 100 mph which we dont because the cavaliers seem to cut off at 108.
P.S. we both have autos
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Originally Posted by hotrodcivic2004
dont underestimate a cavalier. my best friend has an 02 LS sport which has a 2.2 ecotec with 140 horse and 150 torque. EVERY time i race him i get my *** handed to me. the only way i beat him is if we ever get over 100 mph which we dont because the cavaliers seem to cut off at 108.
P.S. we both have autos
there ya go you have an auto. If you both had sticks it would be different and you have 60 extra lbs in a system in the trunk.

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Originally Posted by hotrodcivic2004
dont underestimate a cavalier. my best friend has an 02 LS sport which has a 2.2 ecotec with 140 horse and 150 torque. EVERY time i race him i get my *** handed to me. the only way i beat him is if we ever get over 100 mph which we dont because the cavaliers seem to cut off at 108.
P.S. we both have autos
Im from Toledo too. Let me have a go at your friends car
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lol. I missed all the fun. especially in st. louis.
ajhdragon - if you really have a jdm d17 let me know, so i can go check it out.

Also let me join the race w/ the cavilier. If you can't beat him. I will take care the rest for you.
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I have an 04 auto Lx. No mods
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hey yur from toledo? u in school anywhere? yeah hes got a system too. hes got stock set up with a RK sport ram intake. i got the AEM ram intake and headers. maybe i've seen u round the city.

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i thought there was a d17 in japan...also i think there was one that was awd....saw it long time ago in forced induction/swaps section...i think.
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Originally Posted by someguy
i thought there was a d17 in japan...also i think there was one that was awd....saw it long time ago in forced induction/swaps section...i think.
we did not sat that there was not, infact we know that there is. It is not a AWD it is realtime 4 wheel drive
http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/c...ype/index.html
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Originally Posted by hotrodcivic2004
hey yur from toledo? u in school anywhere? yeah hes got a system too. hes got stock set up with a RK sport ram intake. i got the AEM ram intake and headers. maybe i've seen u round the city.
yep, I am graduating from UT in 1 week
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bgoetz, do not take this the wrong way, but you have no idea what you are talking about. Let s2k man do the arguing. I cannot believe the stupid noob comments littered throughout the entire first page. Yes he would win if he has a working d17 5spd with intake and exhaust from a stop. If he juices, it would be destruction.
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Originally Posted by xX03EXx
bgoetz, do not take this the wrong way, but you have no idea what you are talking about. Let s2k man do the arguing. I cannot believe the stupid noob comments littered throughout the entire first page. Yes he would win if he has a working d17 5spd with intake and exhaust from a stop. If he juices, it would be destruction.
well lets have examples, all I stated was fact. Nothing that I said was fiction up until the point were I harrassed him aout the JDM, and I was just having fun. Find somthing that I said when I was truly being serious that was incorrect Besides who made you the noob police??? Just because I started in August does not mean that I don't have a clue
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Originally Posted by bgoetz
I may be wrong, but I thought that all of the 01-05 civics in Japan were type Rs. If that is the case there is no D17 from japan because all of their vics have Ks in them.
there this is the only thing that I said that was incorrect and I stated I MAY BE WRONG. and for you information I went and found out for myself that there were models with a d17 before anything else was said. If you don't like me just don't correspond with me, but don't just jump into a topic that is almost finished and try to flame me.
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