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Ok, i have an 02 vtec automatic transmission, and i have an injen cold air intake, jdm 4-1 headers with downpipe, no cat, mugen axel-back exhaust, venom 400 module, aem pullys, and a cf hood. After all of these installs on the street im fast ******* v6's but on the track my time got worst, i went yesterday and ran 17.8, there is a slight mishap in my connection to my venom module but i fixed it on the third run and i ran 17.4, but still why after all this work im still a 17 second car i can't break the barrier. I still have my stock plugs and wires but i don't know if thats the problem, cause like i said on the streets im fast. Please Help........
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Originally Posted by spyder2333
Ok, i have an 02 vtec automatic transmission, and i have an injen cold air intake, jdm 4-1 headers with downpipe, no cat, mugen axel-back exhaust, venom 400 module, aem pullys, and a cf hood. After all of these installs on the street im fast ******* v6's but on the track my time got worst, i went yesterday and ran 17.8, there is a slight mishap in my connection to my venom module but i fixed it on the third run and i ran 17.4, but still why after all this work im still a 17 second car i can't break the barrier. I still have my stock plugs and wires but i don't know if thats the problem, cause like i said on the streets im fast. Please Help........ 

See, first off you probaly believe the ads that companies clain, like...+10 HP on an intake!
None of that is ever true.
Like for instance, you don't have a JDM 4-1 Header, although it was probably advertised as one and you believed it. You also don't have a Mugen axle-back exhaust cause they don't make one for our cars.
What V-6's are you *******?
BTW we don't have spark plug wires...
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For Hwoody, i dont believe what products say about 10+ hp but when im on the street i noticed a huge change with my car with my mods.my car is actually fast but on the track my car 10 times slower thats wats buggin me out. i dont know whats wrong.......and the hyndui santa fe that little truck i dogged it every time the kid pulled up to me to race.....its a v6....,my friends have a 2004 range and a chevy avalanche with some work on the chevy and its good races, mazda 626,nissan altima and even sometimes maximas depends, im not sayin i dogg mustangs and **** but i keep up. so u were at englishtown yesterday and have me on video..how embarrising was i, i was getting abused... and of course the first race i went up against was an evo..
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Hyundai Santa Fe 4wd - V6 3.5L (200 hp)..... 219 LB-ft torque Curb weight 3737
Hyundai Santa Fe 4wd - V6 2.7L (173 hp).....182 LB-ft torque Curb weight 3549
not exactly the makeings of a fast car.
Hyundai Santa Fe 4wd - V6 2.7L (173 hp).....182 LB-ft torque Curb weight 3549
not exactly the makeings of a fast car.
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man you need some NAAAAAAAWWWWWWZZZZZZZZZZZZ
no seriously dude its a d17!!! Its slow thats the funny thing about these cars. I will race any civic I see bcecause chances that it has a k20 is like 1 out of 500!!!!!
Em2's are all show no go.....
no seriously dude its a d17!!! Its slow thats the funny thing about these cars. I will race any civic I see bcecause chances that it has a k20 is like 1 out of 500!!!!!
Em2's are all show no go.....
fast on the street, but slow on the strip........hmmmm got yourself in quite a predicament......lets put on our "thinking caps" guys....
maybe its that you're racing slower cars on the street and faster cars on the strip???
I didnt want to be the first one to say it but 17sec isnt a fast car man
maybe its that you're racing slower cars on the street and faster cars on the strip???
I didnt want to be the first one to say it but 17sec isnt a fast car man
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Yea man a V6 Hyundai Santa Fe isn't fast man, just because it's a v6 don't mean anything.
You probably think your car is faster and granted it probaly is a little but not by much...
You probably think your car is faster and granted it probaly is a little but not by much...
you're fast on the streets or you're "fast" on the streets. I think I'll take the latter. 17 seconds is not fast I don't care if you're riding a tricycle with a 17 second 1/4 mile, it's still not fast
time to get a manual
time to get a manual
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See everyone is gettin me mistaken. the best my car ever did was 17.2 with just an intake then i put headers, pullies, exhaust system and venom 400 module and it did 17.8, thats what im tryin to say here i do more work to the engine and my time gets worst, thats were i dont know what the problem is.
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Originally Posted by spyder2333
See everyone is gettin me mistaken. the best my car ever did was 17.2 with just an intake then i put headers, pullies, exhaust system and venom 400 module and it did 17.8, thats what im tryin to say here i do more work to the engine and my time gets worst, thats were i dont know what the problem is.
sometimes more mods doesnt equal more power or faster times......
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Originally Posted by jonnyg
hmmm maybe you should try experimenting with your mods by removing some and go to the track again.....i guess you can call it "test and tune"
sometimes more mods doesnt equal more power or faster times......
sometimes more mods doesnt equal more power or faster times......
thanks kid! ill prob give that a try and if that dont work ill start hooking up my fiancee's rsx and run that shyt.....
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get rid of the pulleys too. It's been proven that they slow you down until you pass about 90mph. I would start by putting on stock pullies, then hitting up the track to try that out.
well my friend wit an ls/vtec mtr in his hatch did hella basic work and wen he went to the track he was slower then his d15 turbo because he was ridin on bent valves so dont know it could be alot of reasons
Originally Posted by spyder2333
Ok, i have an 02 vtec automatic transmission, and i have an injen cold air intake, jdm 4-1 headers with downpipe, no cat, mugen axel-back exhaust, venom 400 module, aem pullys, and a cf hood. After all of these installs on the street im fast ******* v6's but on the track my time got worst, i went yesterday and ran 17.8, there is a slight mishap in my connection to my venom module but i fixed it on the third run and i ran 17.4, but still why after all this work im still a 17 second car i can't break the barrier. I still have my stock plugs and wires but i don't know if thats the problem, cause like i said on the streets im fast. Please Help........ 

no midpipe --> bottle neck???
check engine light?
sell venom400, replace with vafc-2 w/ dyno tune?
also, have you maintained fluids? ie. freq. oil changes and tranny fluid flush? as well, check cleanliness of plugs.
also, i'm curious, what elevation are you running at? (unless those are corr. numbers)
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You have an auto even with I/H/E push 16.8+. Unless you want some real low ET's. Your gunna need NX kit, Turbo Kit, or alot of motor work. If you realy want to swap in a manual 5 speed or trade that car in for a new civic 5 speed. I can tel you this with an 5 speed you can take more then a second off your auto times.
I always think it's funny when I hear 1 of these 2 most common lines for bad times at a track..
"I hate coming to the track cause I launch MUCH better on the street"
or
"I wonder whats makin me slower at the track? I know I'm much faster on the street."
whats really happening is that there is nothing to tell you you're slow on the street. At the track the clock let's you know when you're slow
If you added mods and got slower times then perhaps you should do wha twas sugessted earlier and pull them off one at a time or dyno your car with and with out them to see the difference.
you also have to rememer that heat and humidity can change your times. even though you have an auto you might wanna check the 60' times and see how they compare.
"I hate coming to the track cause I launch MUCH better on the street"
or
"I wonder whats makin me slower at the track? I know I'm much faster on the street."
whats really happening is that there is nothing to tell you you're slow on the street. At the track the clock let's you know when you're slow
If you added mods and got slower times then perhaps you should do wha twas sugessted earlier and pull them off one at a time or dyno your car with and with out them to see the difference.
you also have to rememer that heat and humidity can change your times. even though you have an auto you might wanna check the 60' times and see how they compare.
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Originally Posted by AzNBonD
no midpipe --> bottle neck???
check engine light?
sell venom400, replace with vafc-2 w/ dyno tune?
also, have you maintained fluids? ie. freq. oil changes and tranny fluid flush? as well, check cleanliness of plugs.
also, i'm curious, what elevation are you running at? (unless those are corr. numbers)
check engine light?
sell venom400, replace with vafc-2 w/ dyno tune?
also, have you maintained fluids? ie. freq. oil changes and tranny fluid flush? as well, check cleanliness of plugs.
also, i'm curious, what elevation are you running at? (unless those are corr. numbers)



