Auto VS. 5 Speed
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Auto VS. 5 Speed
I see it all over the site, but can someone elaborate on the big diff between an auto and 5 speed. I have a 2k1 ex 5 speed, and my girl has a 2k1 ex auto from a stop she hit a good launch on me as I spun thrugh first, by the middle of third though I blew by her. I always thought the gap wsnt that big, was there something there I missed or did she just let off the gas?
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Rep Power: 0 uhh its pretty big.. if ya searched you could find some good answers
i pulled a 17.9 with my auto LX
there are members hitting 15s with their manuals
some in their 14s with nitrous
a full second - 2 second range here.. a lot of difference
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i pulled a 17.9 with my auto LX
there are members hitting 15s with their manuals
some in their 14s with nitrous
a full second - 2 second range here.. a lot of difference
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Rep Power: 339 There should be surprise about the 3rd gear pull. Besides less HP to the wheels, there are more factors. 1 person on this site actually told I shuoldnt even be comparing autos and manuals....
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by Civic2k1racer
5 spd can launch over an auto
5 spd can launch over an auto
yup
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Accually, matters how you race. If the manual owner cant race, then the auto might have the benfit. There are autos here that can beat manuals. The driver is key to any launch.
Accually, matters how you race. If the manual owner cant race, then the auto might have the benfit. There are autos here that can beat manuals. The driver is key to any launch.
true, TRUE, so true, it's all about the driver. your tires are a factor too. i have a 02 ex 5 sp. was at the track this weekend, i had just got my paradas spec-2 on 16" rotas. i raced my friends' 99 Si, he was using stock 15" w/ firestone tires. I totally blew him off on the starting line. but then caught up and took me out near the finish line.. he ran 15.8 and i hit a 16.3.
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I totally blew him off on the starting line. but then caught up and took me out near the finish line.. he ran 15.8 and i hit a 16.3.
I totally blew him off on the starting line. but then caught up and took me out near the finish line.. he ran 15.8 and i hit a 16.3.
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how did u launch? im gonna go to the track next month, i usually drop the cluth at 3 k rpm, but i never tried feathering it at 5k rpm
how did u launch? im gonna go to the track next month, i usually drop the cluth at 3 k rpm, but i never tried feathering it at 5k rpm
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I autocross, so launching is not realy something I do. Ocationally we have a course that requires a bit of a drag launch, so with my Falken Azenis I launch at about 4500-4800 with little to no wheel spin. This is also with the front tire pressure up at 44 psi (For corners)
Tires make a big difference
Tires make a big difference
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I autocross, so launching is not realy something I do. Ocationally we have a course that requires a bit of a drag launch, so with my Falken Azenis I launch at about 4500-4800 with little to no wheel spin. This is also with the front tire pressure up at 44 psi (For corners)
Tires make a big difference
I autocross, so launching is not realy something I do. Ocationally we have a course that requires a bit of a drag launch, so with my Falken Azenis I launch at about 4500-4800 with little to no wheel spin. This is also with the front tire pressure up at 44 psi (For corners)
Tires make a big difference
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i love autocrossing check this out ~~>www.dragracingpinoy.com
i love autocrossing check this out ~~>www.dragracingpinoy.com
You should come out to our next event. Its as Sunset Station, on the 27th.
we start check in and tech at 5:30pm and first car is out at 7:00 (We race at night durring the summer)
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Originally posted by 2k187
I see it all over the site, but can someone elaborate on the big diff between an auto and 5 speed. I have a 2k1 ex 5 speed, and my girl has a 2k1 ex auto from a stop she hit a good launch on me as I spun thrugh first, by the middle of third though I blew by her. I always thought the gap wsnt that big, was there something there I missed or did she just let off the gas?
I see it all over the site, but can someone elaborate on the big diff between an auto and 5 speed. I have a 2k1 ex 5 speed, and my girl has a 2k1 ex auto from a stop she hit a good launch on me as I spun thrugh first, by the middle of third though I blew by her. I always thought the gap wsnt that big, was there something there I missed or did she just let off the gas?
Watch your shifting. you cna bet her off the line easy u just have a lead foot
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Rep Power: 0 shift points make all the difference i race a stock 03 civic dx with an auto trans with my 03 civic dx with the 5 speed all i have is a strut bar and an intake and his is stock and i took him by 2 cars, the main advantage is with an auto trans you have to get your computer reprogramed if you want the higher shift points ( the real power is at the high rpms) im not sure what the stock civic autos shift at but i know its not nearly as high as i do with my manual, The shift points help especially if you know your car and where the power is.
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Rep Power: 0 yup there is a huge difference, use to have an auto dx now i got a 5spd dx and i can definetly feel the difference. of course autos do have an advantage of having constant times.
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Rep Power: 435 My auto EX shifts at redline when I floor it, so it pulls pretty hard (harder than 1-3k RPM) during that time. I dunno...maybe someday I'll race a turbo vic and be embarrased.
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Rep Power: 0 the advantage of auto is that it has no lost power between shifts where as even a well rounded street driver is going to loose a certain amount of there rpms when shifting. although its gained in a better launch and basically an instant shift adjustment in the fact that you have to pay alot of money to get your shift points right where you want them.
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by 03civicdx
the advantage of auto is that it has no lost power between shifts where as even a well rounded street driver is going to loose a certain amount of there rpms when shifting. although its gained in a better launch and basically an instant shift adjustment in the fact that you have to pay alot of money to get your shift points right where you want them.
the advantage of auto is that it has no lost power between shifts where as even a well rounded street driver is going to loose a certain amount of there rpms when shifting. although its gained in a better launch and basically an instant shift adjustment in the fact that you have to pay alot of money to get your shift points right where you want them.
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Rep Power: 0 whenever your clutch is in theres no power to the wheels auto shifts without a taking power away from the wheels, even when your matching the rpms with the speed/gear any drop in rpms is considered lost power
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Rep Power: 0 Uh... alright pal, even though the manual is quicker than the auto... I'll add that you can leave your right foot all the way down on the gas and still tap the clutch a bit to shift and you won't lose any of that crap you mentioned...
Make more sense >8)
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Rep Power: 402 think theres not THAT big of a difference between AT and MT.
stock MT 1/4 time =high 16's
my AT 1/4 time w/full tank of gas and w/ subs in the trunk= 17.1
i'm sure with less gas and no subs i would of beat a stock MT. all i have for engine mods are CAI and exhaust.
stock MT 1/4 time =high 16's
my AT 1/4 time w/full tank of gas and w/ subs in the trunk= 17.1
i'm sure with less gas and no subs i would of beat a stock MT. all i have for engine mods are CAI and exhaust.
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Rep Power: 0 18secquatermile id race you in my manual and ill beat you even if you have no interior and .5 gallon of gas. I used to own a auto civic and its alot slower compared to a manual than you think. The auto cant even spin the tires off the line where the manaul can spin all you want(this shows how more capable the manual is at putting the power to the ground compared to auto).I used to always race my friend in his v6 mustang auto in my auto vic(sri and exaust) and would lose by like 2 cars now when i we race with my manaul vic(cai) i beat him off the line and win by about 2 1/2 cars. Ive raced alot of people i used to loose to and now i win.
