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I'm thinking since it'll be hard to get my civic to 14's without qiute a bit o money, and maybe vtec....
A 93 civic ex coupe with either a si engine, gsr with si head, or h20 ( crv block) and si head (im obsessed with the si head, the 99-00 si, not new one.
I figure a full si with vortec supercharger 75 shot nx nitrous kit, full comptech i/h/e setup (credit to clubsi.com for that info), for starting, then maybe extrude hone, or just port/polish/deck after that with blah blah blah rods, blah valves, retainers, yata yata and etc.

Anyway.... how does that sound? si are generally fast, and are extremely modable.
Q: S2000man... How does a slightly modded si hold up to you, like i/h/e and vtec controller with an ecu?
Q: everyone... IS this a good idea? I've thought about other set ups, this just seems easiest and with great potential...

Thx,
Craig

 
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With the amounts of money your talking about dumping into another car, just do it to yours you have now. You can get into the 14s with your vic. Intake, header(full header), exhaust, underdrive pulleys, head work, and a 50 shot will get you well into the 14s. Or instead of a 50 shot do everything else and do a turbo set up. You should be able to do all of that plus turbo and a few mods to the fuel set up so you can run higher that 8 psi and you should be in low 14s to even high 13s.

Or even better, K20A2 swap and bolt-ons.

 
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for that kind of money in the other car you could prolly do a motor swap in your car

 
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Well, I was lookin at a swap, but leon that *worked* at asaa was out in the warehouse district watchin races last sat and he said that there wasn't that much aftermarket for the rsx engines....
(thanks for reassigning moderator, wasn't sure where to post it)
I figure I could do that... But I'm not sure if I want vtec, it'd be about 1.2 or around for the ex from some places without install, and the rsx stuff is kinda expensive, and it's all pay at once...
I know port/polish/decked or extrude honed, prolly get dc header and a magnaflow hi-flow cat. Gotta get packin to move, I'll finish this post later... I'll keep tabs on it

 
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Jodster - There is NO chance of 14s in a Civic with what you listed. W/o the 50 shot, he might get a 16.2. Without a swap, turbo, and a huge shot of n2o, there isn't even the slightest possiblity of him hitting 14 probably, let alone 14s.

If you want a quick car, don't buy a Japanese one. But if you're set on a Honda, here's what I'd do. I'm pulling this out of thin air, I don't know if anyone has done it, or if the engine will even fit.

CRX body with just the bare essentials (uh, steering wheel, shifter, seat,) Prelude H22 engine, turbo, n20, yadda yadda yadda, all the goodies you can think of. That'll be a quick car. I'm not even totally sure if all of that engine stuff would fit in the CRX bay, but maybe with a big cowl hood, you could do it.

If you're talking about a ~2000 si with i/h/e and ecu, you'd hold up a fight until he got in gear. Not many other 4bangers can compete with the S2000, especially mod for mod.

I don't know about the blue book on them, but if you could find an older Lotus...

 
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What the hell are you smoking?!?

Have you not seen the post of peoples quartertimes? There plenty of people with bolt-ons and NO head work or NO2 getting well in the mid to high 15s. If you can only pull of a 16.2 with Intake, header(full header), exhaust, underdrive pulleys, head work, and a 50 shot YOU are the worse driver in the world. And as for a CRX with a H22 its been done many times. It takes a lot of custom work though due to the fact that the H22 motor leans the other way and doesn't clear the stock hood. Plus you have to do a lot of cutting to even thing about having room for a turbo.

 
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Well, let's look at kjgracing's list... K & N FIPK II intake, DC Sports 4-2-1 Headers, NX Nitrous Expres EFI (50 shot), NX Nitrous Express Purge Kit, NX Nitrous Express pop-off Valve, NX Nitrous Express Blow Down tube,
ZEX Nitrous Spark Plugs, Arospeed Ground Wires Kit, JET Performance ECU upgrade, 2.25" Custom mandrel bent exhaust, Magnaflow Muffler.

And what did he run? 15.383

As for running a 16.2: I've never run my Civic. Why? Its not a race car. I've got 17" rims and a halfton of audio stuff in the trunk. And its an auto. Yeah, with all that stuff done and good conditions he could run a possible high 14. I'd still say never 13. There's no need to try and get personal, I can drive stick pretty damn well. Whether I'm right or wrong, the point is that he would be better off doing what I talked about later.

As for the CRX w/H22... do you mean the motor physically leans a different way, or that it rotates a different way?

 
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I never said anything about getting into the 13s, which takes a lot of modding, and I wasn't making anything personal. As for the CRX the H22 motor leans to the back. It doesn't rotate different, it leans different.

 
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Sorry. Just being a jerk now.

 
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Well my back. Just over all with all of the money CGodwin3103 is talking about spending, might as well do it to what he's got. But B20(not H20, now I'm being a jerk[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG]) in a 92-95 hatch with a B16 vtec head would own. But no matter what car you decide to play with any motor swap will take a good amount of money and time to do. Be different. I've only seen one car with a B20Z in it. It was an old 91 integra. That teg was a beast. It had no problem turboed 99-00 SI's and all he had on the motor was I/H/E.

 
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get you a 6th gen vic and put in an NSX motor like options auto salon (i think that's who it was, its in the new SS mag)did, that'd be fast as hell

 
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hmm, that give me some options. ONe of the main reasons for it in the em is that i already have my kit and rims and have started motor, that and 2 payments + insurance sucks, but that gives me plenty to think about. b20z you say? I'll have to look into it... I kinda want a 93 civic ex coupe though, im partial to civics guys.. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] the 93 is soewhere in the 2300 lbs. area, it's a civic, and 93's arent near as expensive to buy as 95+..
And I don't go totally apeshit on racing, so mid 14's is a happy place for me.... but dependant on how much money i will need for that, maybe ill just get a 93 civic for a swap as the running car, and use the 7th gen for the dd and the rollin car with a nice system and a little power....