Dual filter Intake
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Dual filter Intake
Lookey lookey, I found something new: Kore's Ride
If one filter is a little restrictive, then two will be less restrictive. Pretty sound. Although that connection is kinda weird. I don't know how well that second filter flows with that connection.
The header wrap is kinda k3wl. No more heat shield and better emissions and a little more power. Nice! Although I see an emissions boo boo. [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
Anyway, cheap mods that work are k3wl in my book.
If one filter is a little restrictive, then two will be less restrictive. Pretty sound. Although that connection is kinda weird. I don't know how well that second filter flows with that connection.
The header wrap is kinda k3wl. No more heat shield and better emissions and a little more power. Nice! Although I see an emissions boo boo. [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
Anyway, cheap mods that work are k3wl in my book.
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Rep Power: 0 No. This akin to thinking that the biggest exhaust diameter is the best for any application.
Forget the fact that the amount of intake air is limited by the TB and intake tube... rather, dwell on the simplistic fact that no matter how much air is being taken in by the intake, its going to do jack... other then make you run outside of Stoichiometric equilibrium ... without proper exhaust scavenging (E.G. port n polish, extrude honed manifolds, full on exhaust systems) as well as the need for a myriad of other modifications (such as high performance cams, a turbo, higher compression internals, and so on, as well as having to tune it on a dyno /w a programable ECU). There is a reason why this hasn’t been explored by aftermarket manufacturers.
To make things even simpler, the bottle neck in an aftermarket intake system is NOT the filter.
Forget the fact that the amount of intake air is limited by the TB and intake tube... rather, dwell on the simplistic fact that no matter how much air is being taken in by the intake, its going to do jack... other then make you run outside of Stoichiometric equilibrium ... without proper exhaust scavenging (E.G. port n polish, extrude honed manifolds, full on exhaust systems) as well as the need for a myriad of other modifications (such as high performance cams, a turbo, higher compression internals, and so on, as well as having to tune it on a dyno /w a programable ECU). There is a reason why this hasn’t been explored by aftermarket manufacturers.
To make things even simpler, the bottle neck in an aftermarket intake system is NOT the filter.
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[hr]Originally posted by: HondaGuru
To make things even simpler, the bottle neck in an aftermarket intake system is NOT the filter.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: HondaGuru
To make things even simpler, the bottle neck in an aftermarket intake system is NOT the filter.[hr]
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Rep Power: 0 physics dictate that its not though. Even with 2 filters, the same ammount of air as a single filter can pass through the V where both filters bottleneck at the inlet to the intake plumbing. I.E. unless you have some uber-restrictive filter (which isnt the case if you any pretty much anything aftermarket) the ammount of air able to pass into the intake is restricted by the same bottleneck, dual filters or not. A 3" tube is a 3" tube, no matter if you have 1 or 100 filters feeding it.
On top of that, filters are shaped the way they are for a reson. this is to increase air velocity in the chamber and to smooth out airflow inside the intake track. This areodynamic design becomes useless when the air is being sucked in at an angle rather then from directly behind it, as well as the fact that dual filters will decrease the ammount of force each filter exerts wile sucking in air, thus hindering air flow and increasing turbulance. If anythying this set up HURTS performance. which is funny.
On top of that, filters are shaped the way they are for a reson. this is to increase air velocity in the chamber and to smooth out airflow inside the intake track. This areodynamic design becomes useless when the air is being sucked in at an angle rather then from directly behind it, as well as the fact that dual filters will decrease the ammount of force each filter exerts wile sucking in air, thus hindering air flow and increasing turbulance. If anythying this set up HURTS performance. which is funny.
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Someone i know has a 93 vic with a B16a and he has 2 filters located in the front bumper (Injen CAI style). it looks nice and sounds even better.
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Rep Power: 400 hondaguru is dead on with all he's said. in fact, i'm impressed, as i didn't realize how much technical knowledge he posessed. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]
having the two filters does not help. if anything, it hurts performance. though yes, i can see how it might sound logical.... but when you get into the scientifics of it, it really just hurts performance.
[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG] having the two filters does not help. if anything, it hurts performance. though yes, i can see how it might sound logical.... but when you get into the scientifics of it, it really just hurts performance.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Grey
Lookey lookey, I found something new: Kore's Ride
If one filter is a little restrictive, then two will be less restrictive. Pretty sound. Although that connection is kinda weird. I don't know how well that second filter flows with that connection.
The header wrap is kinda k3wl. No more heat shield and better emissions and a little more power. Nice! Although I see an emissions boo boo. [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
Anyway, cheap mods that work are k3wl in my book.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Grey
Lookey lookey, I found something new: Kore's Ride
If one filter is a little restrictive, then two will be less restrictive. Pretty sound. Although that connection is kinda weird. I don't know how well that second filter flows with that connection.
The header wrap is kinda k3wl. No more heat shield and better emissions and a little more power. Nice! Although I see an emissions boo boo. [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
Anyway, cheap mods that work are k3wl in my book.
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Rep Power: 419 Yeah, I guess that must be it. He should just go with a bigger filter I guess? Or a bigger diameter intake and then a bigger filter. Then have it narrow down right next to the throttle body. There's these nice K&N filters that flow a lot. X-Treme series or something like that. I'll get one for my turbo. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
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