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Talking Crower Stage Two Cam Delivered!
Well My stage two cam arrived the other day!

Ill be ordering the springs and retainers shortly.

as always any questions, comments, or insults are welcome!

Ill be tuning this with my VAFC2!

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Hopefully it makes more then 107 WHP.... Good luck bro
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that thread was hilarious!

I already put down 115 WHP when my VAFC2 was tuned the first time.

thanks for the support honder.
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All I will be dyno tuning again!! We did not adjust the valves properly after install of the cam and I plan on getting a highflow cat. Hopefully I should break 110 whp now.
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its still hilarious ron!
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Well its about time Chris. U have been talking about this for a long time now. Let me know how it works out.
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A long long time!

got the new tranny, new clutch, and now new cam.

I was hesitant for a long time, I dont want to buy EMS and

I dont want to put the stock cam back in if it get too rough.

But as far as I know no one has tuned the Stage two cam with a

VAFC2 on this site.

Has anyone tuned a crower stage two cam with a VAFC2 on 7th Gen???
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I know its hilarious. That was a huge rude awakening. I ripped my timing belt 2 weeks ago and bent all my exhaust valves. I just got the car back and ran it w/o emanage to see the difference and it felt stronger hehe. The stock ecu did a great job keeping the afr around 14.7 during cruising and 13's during WOT just idle its goes way to rich and stalls. I'm thinking about just keeping the tune for idle and zeroing out everything on the emanage and let the ecu do its thing. Good idea?

And 02blkcivic... realistically u'll probably just need to pull fuel at idle bc you'll run too rich with the cam and it will stall. I went with emanage to adjust ignition timing but the ecu doesn't like that very much when you try to advance. You should be fine with a VAFC2.
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Well ya i think its a good idea.

but why not sell the blue box for some cash and buy a VAFC2 and adjust the fuel curve at 500-1000 RPMS (or where the RPMS are for idle)

You are the reason ron I think I can tune and tame the cam with a VAFC2.

mainly because you said it sounds "ok" or "smooth" on the stock ECU.
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I've been contemplating this for the past month actually. The car just felt more responsive w/o the emanage. I'm gonna give the tuner another shot and really compare a dyno run with and w/o emanage. Keep us posted with your setup when is estimated time of install?
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**** man "hopfully" i can buy the retainers this friday and install before Jan 5th.

But christmas is around the corner so maybe the end of January.
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well congrats on ur cam! i just bought dezod turbo kit. turbo cam, vs&r...and more...but i went to ians house and we chilled for a couple, and he took me for a ride and i drove his car. the idle was fine...it was lumpy, but sounded very nice. ian once u get rid of that stock DP you see a much better differance...

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hey exturbo6...^

is ian ronaldo9?

I have a stock cat too. What kind of down pipe does every one run?
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Any other options you were thinking about for headers?
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My buddy that sold me the cam has obx headers and they have much bigger piping than my megan header. But he has an LX and I'm not sure if the LX headers are bigger than the EX.
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dont think so...^

I dont know if I wana get the HP header.

because I dont want to hack my frame.

and I have Energy Engine mount inserts.

I heard that my conflict also...

im up in arms about the cat problem...
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other then Dezod and truehonda what other verder sites do you guys use

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Robearacing has alot of good stuff and streetlevelperformance.com
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I bought my coilovers from Robearacing. they do have alot of stuff up there. And they were pretty quick on getting me my stuff. good guys to go through.
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thanks for the answers guys!!!


need to spread rep around before I give to ron and val
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djmota tuned his stg2 with a vafc!!

133.48 whp 117.57 tq all motor
188.87 whp 187.99 tq 75 shot n20
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130 WHP is my goal!!!

only good news Fam! I remember that thread!

Did you guys know AEM is asking 140 now for their cam gears!!! WTF!!!

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