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Old Aug 4, 2005
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new car, screw boost

unless on a factory turbod car. hehe

except Im looking at the Mazda 6 right now. I like the masdaspeed miata, but they are only 2 seaters.

I blew my hg 2 days ago. My 2yo son kept saying, fast daddy, fast. After about 15 minutes of that, once I pulled about 1/4 mile from my house, I stepped on it. at 9psi, after about 50-60mph, we heard a loud POP. I turned my car on the next day, and coolant was coming out of the exhaust (on idle, not driving of course). So I turned it off before normal oper. temp.

Im gonna part EVERYTHING on my car out to get it back to stock. Than swap an EX motor (hopefully EX) in and sell it. Anybody want parts?
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shouldn't this be in the forsale area?
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werd ... d17's are not meant for f/i
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Mazda 6 was a marketing mishap.............That was supposed to be the newly designed Ford Taurus, but Ford thought it was too radical to introduce under Ford's name, so they introduced it under Mazda's name as a new car.

Good luck on a new car hunt.
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I like the mazda 6, it looks clean, plus the interior is nicer than the vic. I could make it look sweeeeet
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Originally Posted by HondaLuver
shouldn't this be in the forsale area?
Is it me or do most of your posts sound b*tchy?
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Seriously, why do people feel the need to post every thought and incident they have?
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I'm almost in the same boat lol. Lookingat used s2ks, then boost that lmfao
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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
werd ... d17's are not meant for f/i
people are learning that, swap is the only hope for these cars.. Maybe next they will learn that N/A is the only way to go as well
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Originally Posted by WhiteCastle
people are learning that, swap is the only hope for these cars.. Maybe next they will learn that N/A is the only way to go as well
Yeah, say that to the driver of this civic.....

Small horsepower numbers....
BTW, that's just a 2.0 litre Honda engine with a turbo and running lean at the top of 4th. Best time to date was 10.9 (at 6,000 ft) with a trap of 137. But yeah, you're right, N/A is the only way to go....
I see lots of n/a honda motors making that much hp all the time

And this wasn't 1st place for being an average car (like a corvette.)
Do me a favor and STFU until you learn something about forced induction.

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^im pretty sure he was refering to the whimpy d17 in the 7thgen.
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There are people close to making over 300 whp on the whimpy d17's as well. I won't stop till I hit 350 whp, and I will. If we can make nearly 600 on a 2.0 litre, we'll make over 350 on a 1.7.
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Originally Posted by andyman97
Yeah, say that to the driver of this civic.....

Small horsepower numbers....
BTW, that's just a 2.0 litre Honda engine with a turbo and running lean at the top of 4th. Best time to date was 10.9 (at 6,000 ft) with a trap of 137. But yeah, you're right, N/A is the only way to go....
I see lots of n/a honda motors making that much hp all the time

And this wasn't 1st place for being an average car (like a corvette.)
Do me a favor and STFU until you learn something about forced induction.

whaaaaaaaaaa. its a b20 turbo in a stripped civic hatch. thats a whole different animal than a 2500lb d17 powered gas saver.
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ya i dont think honda had quarter miles times in mind when they decided to build the d17.... some people keep forgetting ITS A HONDA CIVIC!
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Yeah the most popular platform for import tuning in the world right now.
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Originally Posted by joelwastaken
ya i dont think honda had quarter miles times in mind when they decided to build the d17.... some people keep forgetting ITS A HONDA CIVIC!
i'm pretty sure ANY imported car manufacturer will not be thinking of getting top quarter mile times...they're selling us cars that perform well and save gas. none of that 15mpg 12 second quarter mile stuff. i mean, seriously... even with the d17, 12 second quarter mile has been done (Catalyst did, for one). and you still get >20mpg, right?
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u can always go with turbocharged mazdaspeed mazda protegé/5
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Originally Posted by blouisgod
whaaaaaaaaaa. its a b20 turbo in a stripped civic hatch. thats a whole different animal than a 2500lb d17 powered gas saver.
First off, It's actually not a b20. Second off, it isn't stripped. Last of all, it's totally street legal and it's more like 1900 lbs. In case you didn't know anything about horsepower, weight has nothing to do with it.

And I never saw a timeslip that Catalyst ever ran a 12. Best I saw was a 13.625. And people are running 12's in 6th gen civics with full interiors, making over 300 whp.
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Originally Posted by andyman97
First off, It's actually not a b20. Second off, it isn't stripped. Last of all, it's totally street legal and it's more like 1900 lbs. In case you didn't know anything about horsepower, weight has nothing to do with it.

And I never saw a timeslip that Catalyst ever ran a 12. Best I saw was a 13.625. And people are running 12's in 6th gen civics with full interiors, making over 300 whp.
...which is why i said "please disregard my previous post."

i thought he posted a slip of a high 12 run? like 12.8 or something
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Originally Posted by andyman97
And this wasn't 1st place for being an average car (like a corvette.)
Do me a favor and STFU until you learn something about forced induction.
uh sorry, did you plan on running a 600 whp car on the street?

10.9 on the track, but what would you run on street with street tires ... I'd say 13's or 14's.
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lower than 13s , thinkin high 11s mid 12s.

What kinda damage we talkin here???
Man people have been telling you about blown head gasket, and you were saying it was other stuff. I think you should come back and shoot for more psi, with more planning of course, get upgraded HG and head studs.
Don't give up so soon, yo are prob just mad, I bet you will be lovin your civic in a day or two.
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Originally Posted by blouisgod
whaaaaaaaaaa. its a b20 turbo in a stripped civic hatch. thats a whole different animal than a 2500lb d17 powered gas saver.
ya soo true...

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Originally Posted by andyman97
And this wasn't 1st place for being an average car (like a corvette.)
Do me a favor and STFU until you learn something about forced induction.
thanks for telling me to STFU up, ohh and taking a swing at me by saying like an average car (corvette). I dont think corvettes had to do anything with what I stated. Also if that comment was meant to hurt me, it doesnt. it actually makes me pitty you for having to resort to say something like that to try and make a point.
Forced induction cars like the Mercedes Mclaren SLR, hell the Audi R8 race car prove Forced Induction can yeild high numbers.
I was stating that the d17 does not respond well to boost. Head gaskets blow around 8psi plus and numerous problems fallow. I know a couple members on this forum that are so fed up they are doing N/A swaps instead.
Truth is everyone thats boosted running 8psi without built internals with lots of money spent on the d17 block are having problems.
Its better to swap, N/A power is more reliable
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Originally Posted by jackburton
. I think you should come back and shoot for more psi, with more planning of course, get upgraded HG and head studs.
IMHO the Honda OEM headstuds are the weakest link in our cars .... Everyone always talks about how bad the rods are but I think about 10 people on here that boost/spray have had headgasket problems .... I know my blown headgasket and a couple other peoples gaskets ceased to be an issue after the headstuds .... just my opinion tho ...
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Originally Posted by WhiteCastle
thanks for telling me to STFU up, ohh and taking a swing at me by saying like an average car (corvette). I dont think corvettes had to do anything with what I stated. Also if that comment was meant to hurt me, it doesnt. it actually makes me pitty you for having to resort to say something like that to try and make a point.
Forced induction cars like the Mercedes Mclaren SLR, hell the Audi R8 race car prove Forced Induction can yeild high numbers.
I was stating that the d17 does not respond well to boost. Head gaskets blow around 8psi plus and numerous problems fallow. I know a couple members on this forum that are so fed up they are doing N/A swaps instead.
Truth is everyone thats boosted running 8psi without built internals with lots of money spent on the d17 block are having problems.
Its better to swap, N/A power is more reliable
Reason I mentioned the vette is cause you have one in your sig. I ran 10 psi for about 20k miles on my previous setup and never blew a headgasket....oh wait, maybe that's because I took the time to TUNE it. Want to know why people have problems, read the link in my sig, I wrote a nice long post about it.

And if you think a 600 hp car is going to run 13's or 14's on the street, you're seriously stupid. That's all the input I have for this thread, lol.
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And if you think a 600 hp car is going to run 13's or 14's on the street, you're seriously stupid. That's all the input I have for this thread, lol.
My friend's vette with over 600rwhp ran around 10.5 at the track on street wheels and tires.
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The only problem with turbo D17s is a lack of tuning and bad choices for fuel/spark management.
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