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Old 07-19-2005   #1  
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i havent been on here in a wile but i have good news

Im goin from all sho and no go to all sho with a 2.0


my car went in monday to my local tuner shop STRICT FAB. i decided to get the k20a3 last week on a wim after sellin my dirtbike and afew other things. I was goin to do the swap in our shop but i heard that the k swap is kinda hard, so i figured that maby that shouldnt be my first. the date of finish should be the 8th of next month if everything goes right and after it gets tuned. ill have pics soon as the swap goes on. if anyone can tell me how much HP ill be getin please tell me. they guys at the shop say my car will be good for 14s...is this a posibility...i est my hp will be around 230

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PS..im sellin the old engine not that anyone would buy it but....

its from my 01 LX
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would of bought a k20a2/k24 but thats nice
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k20a3? ... cool deal ... with those mods, you'll probably 150-155 whp ... you may hit high 14's if you're a good driver.

with a k20a3, you cannot get 230 whp without having a turbo, nitrous or supercharger.
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I'll give you 200 bucks for the stock engine with all that ish... lol
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i just did some research and


the K20a3 has 200hp BUT....thats to the flywheel

at the wheels its 160 some

after Kpro and the mods ill have just under 200whp

so i was wrong with the 250 cuz i forgot about there bein less to the wheels
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k20a2 has 200 hp .. k20a3 has 160 hp.

which one are you getting?
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k20a3 is 160 to flywheel and about ~148 to the wheel.

with intake + exhaust + k-pro = u will be about ~185 to the flywheel and ~170 at wheel.
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Either way, at least you're going k.
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offtopic - aznboysrfr, didn't u did a engine swap?? was it a2 / a3?
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if money wasnt an issue it wouldve kicked *** if u got the k20a-jdm motor. puts out 220hp. but k20a3 is decent wouldve prefered the k20a2. gl and have fun
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ill buy ur mtr, how much would shippin cost to cali?
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i wanted a k24 sooooo bad but i couldnt find one for under like 5800 with shiping and ****....a2 would have been nice but i dont mind a3 its still a sick engine in a civic



i dont kno how much shiping is but id like to get at least 1000
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offtopic - aznboysrfr, didn't u did a engine swap?? was it a2 / a3?
I would've had a k20a 8 months ago if this stupidass company from malaysia (loong story, don't ask...) had sent it ... they still haven't sent it.

now i'm looking for a k20a2
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k20a3 is 160 to flywheel and about ~148 to the wheel.

with intake + exhaust + k-pro = u will be about ~185 to the flywheel and ~170 at wheel.
I think it may be a little bit lower than that for the whp numbers ...

my friend Josh aka Drivetofast swapped a k20a3 from an Si. With hondata intake manifold gasket, electric power steering (does not contribute to parasitic engine power loss), AEM CAI, throttle body coolant bypass, Greddy Evo2, NGK iridiums, he dyno'ed at 126 whp.

he recently got a DC RH and dyno'ed at 141 whp ...

but then again, he has a check engine light due to no cat ... so maybe that may be a little of it. I think he may have a weak motor too ... so I dunno. I don't think kpro, i/e would would put you at 170 whp ... I dunno though ...



btw, I don't think a k20a3 is worth it ... for notes on why a k20a3 isn't that great, check this out
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u wont get 1k for ur engine. they dont go for more then $500
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I think it may be a little bit lower than that for the whp numbers ...

my friend Josh aka Drivetofast swapped a k20a3 from an Si. With hondata intake manifold gasket, electric power steering (does not contribute to parasitic engine power loss), AEM CAI, throttle body coolant bypass, Greddy Evo2, NGK iridiums, he dyno'ed at 126 whp.

he recently got a DC RH and dyno'ed at 141 whp ...

but then again, he has a check engine light due to no cat ... so maybe that may be a little of it. I think he may have a weak motor too ... so I dunno. I don't think kpro, i/e would would put you at 170 whp ... I dunno though ...



btw, I don't think a k20a3 is worth it ... for notes on why a k20a3 isn't that great, check this out

kinda low imo 126whp out an a3. I remember seeing at ep3hatch forum a base dyno is 14?.
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ok talked to the dude on the phone and everything has "changed"


its an A2 6speed..he said it was a3.....th ere now thats a lot better ey..
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It's "changed?" That's an expensive change. Either this is bs or the shop you took your car to is shady. If I remember correctly, an A2 goes for like twice the price of an A3.
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no there cool.....it was my mistake. i missunderstood him

ya i kno how expencive it is
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kinda low imo 126whp out an a3. I remember seeing at ep3hatch forum a base dyno is 14?.
yeah I know ... the first time, I thought the dyno numbers read low .. but then I raced him and he pulled only 1/2 car until 60 ... but then at the end of 3rd, he pulled another car ... I guess he just has a weak motor.

we raced again after he got his DC RH and he pulled a couple cars ... ;P ... that's more like it... but still ... low numbers.
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