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Old Apr 20, 2005
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*Update* Turbo the b16 or swap it with a hooked up B18C5 ITR motor

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I got the ITR motor and loving it! glad i went with N/A, thanks for everybody's inputs!


Well i have a 2000 Civic SI and the b16 needs to be rebuild because of hydrolocked not too long ago...well i have a few options really, one being i could rebuild the b16 with the works and turbo it to make about 300whp for everyday driving @11-15 psi, the rebuild will cost me about 5800 installed and turned, or i can get an ITR motor hooked up pushing around 225whp for the 4500 installed and turned. another thing i can do is get another stock b16 and throw a turbo on that making about 260whp @7-8 psi for daily driving...the kicker is i want a running car for the next 5-8 years with no worries, thats why im lookin to getting the B18C5, plus ill have a stock hydrolock b16 sitting here that i could get fixed maybe and sell it to save me more money getting the B18C5. what do u all thing i should do

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rebuild the b16 you have for all motor. up the compression a bit install stage 2 cams/springs/retainers IM port the head head use arp hardware hondata tune and enjoy some nice reliable na power. and if you are going to use a cai again use a bypass valve.
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if you want more reliability, NA is the way to go.
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i would go ITR motor...cuz once u hydrolock ur engine that engine is pretty much screwed...i've dealt with hydrolocked engines before and 99% of the time we had to replace the motor...happened mostly on hondas with a cold air intake without a water bypass valve
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NA with the ITR motor, any forced induction, espeically Turbo there always maintenence involved gahh..lol..i think if you want a car for the next 5-6 years with no problems..the B18 is the way to go. i would anyways.
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ITR gets my vote.
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b18 can get better compression. But a b16 can be just as powerful. Although the stock torque curve of the b18 is much better than the b16.
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ITR all the way
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well ive been in an all motor fixed up n/a b16 before...its ok but the money spent on rebuilding it would cost the same as swaping the ITR motor in....but the with ITR it would save me more time and money as well because it wont have to be sent off or anything and plus i could sell the b16 for cheap
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The ITR will save you time, money, and, most importantly, headaches. Dealing with building an engine up for turbo can be a real PITA. You'll have more potential down the road if you go with the ITR, too.
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Why do I have the feeling none of you know anything about the b16 and the b18, other then just what cars feature them.
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b18, cuz then u can turbo it later on
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If you go B18, B18A/B is probably the best, the B18C1 is also really good, but has a little higher compression, but also has the advantage of VTEC.

Do not turbo a B18C5 it'll go boom.

As for the B16. There about the same as a B18C1 when it comes to boost except for a little less power. Out of the three I would boost a B18B.
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build a Crv with a gsr head and turbo... its the only way to go
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if you're gonna spend $5800, then save up a little more and get a k20a2
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B18C5 sounds tasty!!
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Originally Posted by SIinthesky
B18C5 sounds tasty!!
yea, unless you want to turbo it. But N/A B18's rock my socks!
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BOOST is the way to go
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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
if you're gonna spend $5800, then save up a little more and get a k20a2

5800 is putting a turbo on it and running 300+whp at 12-15 psi...k20a2 is ok but i wouldnt want to spend more time and money on somthing so much slower
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Originally Posted by Woot00EPBSI
5800 is putting a turbo on it and running 300+whp at 12-15 psi...k20a2 is ok but i wouldnt want to spend more time and money on somthing so much slower
reliability > power

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6 speed > 5 speed
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its so sexy just running threw the gears... all 6 of them... muahhaha
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he cant get a k20, he has a EK Si. Now that thats outa the way. Dont build an N/A b16. TO EXPENSIVE, and the results will get u basically wat a stock ITR puts out. Turbo B16 will fly, but id go turbo b18c1 ( GSR). my friend ran 11.89 on a STOCK b18c1, with 11 psi. had no problems. I say easily u will have it 5-6 years if u put it on 7-8 PSI, and it will SMOKKKKEEE any b16a turbo, N/A ITR, or b18a/b turbo. The high compression really doesnt come into effect untill ur up around 15psi.
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Turbo
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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
if you're gonna spend $5800, then save up a little more and get a k20a2

well, a built b16 with turbo and quaife would be amazing.

A all motor ITR is good too......but i love boost
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Originally Posted by Vantage
he cant get a k20, he has a EK Si. Now that thats outa the way. Dont build an N/A b16. TO EXPENSIVE, and the results will get u basically wat a stock ITR puts out. Turbo B16 will fly, but id go turbo b18c1 ( GSR). my friend ran 11.89 on a STOCK b18c1, with 11 psi. had no problems. I say easily u will have it 5-6 years if u put it on 7-8 PSI, and it will SMOKKKKEEE any b16a turbo, N/A ITR, or b18a/b turbo. The high compression really doesnt come into effect untill ur up around 15psi.
Why can't he? Where do you get your facts? The onion? Thats bullshit. A k20 would work fine.

http://www.hasport.com/Products/Mounts.htm

Uh oh! Whats that I see? Is that k-series mounts! UH OH! You can't do that! Why make mounts?! OMG! OMG! OMG!

EDIT: I'm sorry... I was in a mood when I posted this...

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B18, my friend had a built b18c1 with a precision sc61 turbo. Car pulled like crazy. He blew his tranny and while he was fixing it at the guys house he bought the car from....the engine got stolen http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1119324
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Originally Posted by Blahman2
Why can't he? Where do you get your facts? The onion? Thats bullshit. A k20 would work fine.

http://www.hasport.com/Products/Mounts.htm

Uh oh! Whats that I see? Is that k-series mounts! UH OH! You can't do that! Why make mounts?! OMG! OMG! OMG!


I'd say B18C5 because there is nothing like a powerful N/A motor.
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Why can't he? Where do you get your facts? The onion? Thats bullshit. A k20 would work fine.

http://www.hasport.com/Products/Mounts.htm

Uh oh! Whats that I see? Is that k-series mounts! UH OH! You can't do that! Why make mounts?! OMG! OMG! OMG!

EDIT: I'm sorry... I was in a mood when I posted this...

Still for the price of a k20 in an Ek, u can easily make a car that runs A LOT faster track times.
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I'd say the B18, though the K would be nice
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K motor would be nice...hehe i found out how much it would cost....a little bit too much...
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