Which Coilover system?????
Hey guys, I've been back and forth on deciding which suspension system will give me the best BANG for the BUCK. I'm going big with the purchase, like Tein SS, or Ksport dampers. It will be awesome if you guys give me suggestions on suspension systems. Also, I'm leaning towards daily driving practicality against hardcore track stuff.
Thanks for your time,
Chris
Thanks for your time,
Chris
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I have no opinion about the Ksports, however I have been running the Tein SS setup now for 2 years and love them. Sure they're expensive, but well worth every penny. My little Honda rides like its on rails. I don't track my car, but I do drive the hell out of it. The is a very curvy, 9-mile back way I take to work now just to have fun. I would recommend some sort of chassis stiffening as well, strut bars or a thicker anti-sway kit - or both preferably. But I think you would be happy with the SS setup. Plus you can instantly dial in the damper response from the top of each strut. It all depends on how stiff you want it! Tein SS FTW!
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^thicker swaybars and strut bars are going to change the amount of understeer and oversteer you have, But with stiffer suspension your car WILL feel like its on rails in the turns. I'm going with Tein SS, but every place i've talked with is out and so is the tein WH untill the middle of next month. good luck though.
well in that case..if u want more options..b&g, ksports, tein ss, f2. no joke if ur not gonna really track your car dont waste ur money on something like tein ss. theres no need. as far as strut bar/sway bar. if u want to do a nice bolt on with no hassel..get a 19mm rsx rear sway.ull feel a difference there. and on top of that if u want more comfort u should get a front sway as well..it all depends on what u want. and it seems that u want comfort. thats to help u out. once again just giving my opinions. any full coilover system will work for u. try and get something with dampening ie. ksports f2s tein ss. u can get a stylish look as well as comfort.
I am leaning toward the Ksports now. I love the price and I like that you can adjust the camber, I don't know if you can with the Tein, but I still love the Ksport's price.
Thanks a lot fellas. I could still use some more opinions(the more the better)
Thanks a lot fellas. I could still use some more opinions(the more the better)
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Honestly for a street car, I look at suspensions with liniar springs as being a bit overkill. You can setup a suspension with a good set of dampers, some nice progressive rated lowering springs, the right selection of anti-roll bars, the proper alignment and end up with a car that not only handles as good if not better then a "pre-built" coilover on the street, but also rides better.
My $.02 Pick up a set of konis, Tokico D-spec or Bilstiens. Then pick out a lowering spring that gives you about the drop you're looking for. Tie that in with a camber kit front and rear + optimize the alignment. Then Tweak the cars oversteer/understeer balance with anti-rollbars. and you'll have a street car that handles great and Rides great.
My $.02 Pick up a set of konis, Tokico D-spec or Bilstiens. Then pick out a lowering spring that gives you about the drop you're looking for. Tie that in with a camber kit front and rear + optimize the alignment. Then Tweak the cars oversteer/understeer balance with anti-rollbars. and you'll have a street car that handles great and Rides great.
Honestly for a street car, I look at suspensions with liniar springs as being a bit overkill. You can setup a suspension with a good set of dampers, some nice progressive rated lowering springs, the right selection of anti-roll bars, the proper alignment and end up with a car that not only handles as good if not better then a "pre-built" coilover on the street, but also rides better.
My $.02 Pick up a set of konis, Tokico D-spec or Bilstiens. Then pick out a lowering spring that gives you about the drop you're looking for. Tie that in with a camber kit front and rear + optimize the alignment. Then Tweak the cars oversteer/understeer balance with anti-rollbars. and you'll have a street car that handles great and Rides great.
My $.02 Pick up a set of konis, Tokico D-spec or Bilstiens. Then pick out a lowering spring that gives you about the drop you're looking for. Tie that in with a camber kit front and rear + optimize the alignment. Then Tweak the cars oversteer/understeer balance with anti-rollbars. and you'll have a street car that handles great and Rides great.
but if your only choice was coilovers, which one would you prefer?
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.... The one with the damper that has the greatest range of adjustment... and I'm not talking about how many "clicks" they have, as that doesnt tell you squat about the damper other then it is suposedly adjustible. I mean the one that's got a damper Dyno posted so you can see its adjustment range and compair it to others.
so... that pretty much excludes 99% of the coilovers out there. But If I were forced to buy a "coilover"... It would probably be Buddy Club's of some sort, but under protest. And it would really depend on my intended application. for compitition, I'd be hard pressed not to want a set of konis, but for general street use I'd want something soft like the Bilstein setup. I'm not exactly what you would call a fan of pre-built "coilovers". Given that I feel I could build a setup to fit my exact needs, rather then buying a setup thats been designed to suit as many applications as possible. the whole jack of all trades yet master of none thing...
any way, I've pretty much come to the conclusion that for general street use where the person is trying to get the car to look a certin way and handle better then stock, its pretty hard to choose a bad setup. Just pick something your comfortable with and spend a little time tuning it (theres plenty of info on that here). But if you are building for compitition or trying to get every last bit of performance out of the cars suspension.... then you'll need to take a serious look at every part you buy. Because most of the time, whats being pushed by "tuners" as the hot go fast part... really is just a way to seperate you from your $$$$ rather then actually makeing you go fast.
so... that pretty much excludes 99% of the coilovers out there. But If I were forced to buy a "coilover"... It would probably be Buddy Club's of some sort, but under protest. And it would really depend on my intended application. for compitition, I'd be hard pressed not to want a set of konis, but for general street use I'd want something soft like the Bilstein setup. I'm not exactly what you would call a fan of pre-built "coilovers". Given that I feel I could build a setup to fit my exact needs, rather then buying a setup thats been designed to suit as many applications as possible. the whole jack of all trades yet master of none thing...
any way, I've pretty much come to the conclusion that for general street use where the person is trying to get the car to look a certin way and handle better then stock, its pretty hard to choose a bad setup. Just pick something your comfortable with and spend a little time tuning it (theres plenty of info on that here). But if you are building for compitition or trying to get every last bit of performance out of the cars suspension.... then you'll need to take a serious look at every part you buy. Because most of the time, whats being pushed by "tuners" as the hot go fast part... really is just a way to seperate you from your $$$$ rather then actually makeing you go fast.
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Its like..." I want coilovers because they come in pretty colors, and everything out there is better, but I gotta have pretty colors."
Look around at the track and see what everyone's sporting.... Konis and ground controls. For the adjustability, low cost and rebuildability, its hard to beat.
Oh... and since you can do cut a strut to put the konis in, paint the housing a pretty color.
For DDing, bag the coilovers and get lowering springs. City streets on 400 lb linear springs gets old.
ur gonna spend so much for gc/koni unless its just koni and w.e springs. but from then on ur gonna have problems with install for koni's. on top of that these pre built coils would be pretty easy to install. and u can find much more coils cheaper then the gc/koni
zzyzx: ive never seen buddy club for our cars.
zzyzx: ive never seen buddy club for our cars.
thanks zzyzx and boilermaker.. you guys sure do know how to explain things, i guess the more you know about shock / spring combination the more unecessary it becomes for coilover. i have d2's myself but its true, i dont change my setting too much aswell (since i already found the most smoothes setting). iam actually considering trading my d2's to tein basic since d2's is more of like autocrossing (as all the nissan guys out there use d2's for drifting.. well most) so yea. thanks for the input agian.
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ur gonna spend so much for gc/koni unless its just koni and w.e springs. but from then on ur gonna have problems with install for koni's. on top of that these pre built coils would be pretty easy to install. and u can find much more coils cheaper then the gc/koni
zzyzx: ive never seen buddy club for our cars.
zzyzx: ive never seen buddy club for our cars.
but like I said, if this is for a primiarly street driven car, the difference in damper performance isnt really going to be noticeable, so buy what your comfortable with.
Who said built specifically for our cars... the EP3 and RSX setups will fit with minimal modifications.
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thanks zzyzx and boilermaker.. you guys sure do know how to explain things, i guess the more you know about shock / spring combination the more unecessary it becomes for coilover. i have d2's myself but its true, i dont change my setting too much aswell (since i already found the most smoothes setting). iam actually considering trading my d2's to tein basic since d2's is more of like autocrossing (as all the nissan guys out there use d2's for drifting.. well most) so yea. thanks for the input agian.
what is a "coilover" but a spring mounted around a damper?
zzyzx is the man..btw i wasnt arguing about gc/koni performance to the pre built ones. i already know that its better. i was just replying to that cuz this guy wnated a good buy with looks and comfort. =D ur the man though.. hoorah for zzyzx
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