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Old Aug 18, 2006
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Question Suspension recommendation

My wife has an '04 Civic LX coupe with the following mods:

'04 K20A2
Civic Si EPS
Exedy Hyper Single
Quaife LSD
DCRH
AEM CAI
Hasport motor mounts
Hondata IMG
Hondata K-Pro
Toda front sway bar
Neuspeed rear sway bar
Neuspeed front upper strut tower bar
Hotchkis rear camber kit
Koni Yellows
H&R springs
~200 lbs worth of stereo equipment in the trunk

The current front suspension is shot--something is wrong with the OEM shock housings and the shaft of the Koni Yellows moves around in the OEM housing. Also, the Konis are start too leak near the top hats. We will be selling the car within the next year or so, so we don't want to spend a whole lot more money on her. We would like to buy a new suspension setup with costs under a grand.

I am looking for some recommendations on a new suspension setup. The car is only used for daily driving, but the car is driven pretty aggressively so a decent setup is a must. I am looking at the following options:

Progress competition coilovers: http://www.truehonda.com/inventory.p...tdetail&id=465

B&G full coilovers: http://www.truehonda.com/inventory.p...ctdetail&id=33

Mugen sports suspension: http://www.kingmotorsports.com/produ...&vehicle=Civic

Any suggestions?
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Tein Basics.

OEM suspension can be had for real cheap.
Also, aren't Koni's supposed to be rebuildable?

Buying used OEM setup + having the Koni's rebuilt would proably be cheaper.
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The car is driven aggressively so OEM setup won't cut it.

Seems like you got 50mm konis instead of 55mm, the reason why it moves around in the strut housing.

I'd recommend Tein Basics though, can be had for under a grand.
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buy my Tein Type Flex w/EDFC so that I can change my mind and sell my car. I'm gonna spend the remaining 2g I need to finally finish off my swap, but I won't if I can sell some of the bigger items off my car.
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Originally Posted by Ti71
The car is driven aggressively so OEM setup won't cut it.

Seems like you got 50mm konis instead of 55mm, the reason why it moves around in the strut housing.

I'd recommend Tein Basics though, can be had for under a grand.

quicksilver said, "something is wrong with the OEM shock housings and the shaft of the Koni Yellows moves around in the OEM housing."

I was recommending getting OEM suspension to fix that + rebuild the Koni's.

But the 50mm vs 55mm arguement might be the correct answer.

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I have heard bad things about Tein coilovers. They have a bad reputation with S2000 owners, so I am not going to even consider them.

Like others have mentioned an OEM setup is a non-starter.

Yes, Koni's are supposed to be good and I am sure they are. For whatever reason they didn't work out well on my wife's Civic though. Also, like I initially mentioned there is a lot of weight in the trunk so I need to be able to set the ride height higher in the back to compensate for the added weight.
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Originally Posted by quick silver
My wife has an '04 Civic LX coupe.........


The current front suspension is shot--something is wrong with the OEM shock housings and the shaft of the Koni Yellows moves around in the OEM housing. Also, the Konis are start too leak near the top hats. We will be selling the car within the next year or so, so we don't want to spend a whole lot more money on her. We would like to buy a new suspension setup with costs under a grand.

I am looking for some recommendations on a new suspension setup. The car is only used for daily driving, but the car is driven pretty aggressively so a decent setup is a must. I am looking at the following options:

Progress competition coilovers: http://www.truehonda.com/inventory.p...tdetail&id=465

B&G full coilovers: http://www.truehonda.com/inventory.p...ctdetail&id=33

Mugen sports suspension: http://www.kingmotorsports.com/produ...&vehicle=Civic

Any suggestions?
Originally Posted by quick silver
I have heard bad things about Tein coilovers. They have a bad reputation with S2000 owners, so I am not going to even consider them.

Like others have mentioned an OEM setup is a non-starter.

Yes, Koni's are supposed to be good and I am sure they are. For whatever reason they didn't work out well on my wife's Civic though. Also, like I initially mentioned there is a lot of weight in the trunk so I need to be able to set the ride height higher in the back to compensate for the added weight.
Well the Progress are nice, but why bother if your going to sell the car? I can not see the point of adding a high dollar suspension to a car your going to sell in 1 year. Ya know?

I mean, if your fixated on coilovers, Progress are good.
http://dezod.com/pd_progress_cs1_coi...civic_0103.cfm

To be honest, I would consider something like this:
http://dezod.com/pd_ingalls_suspensi...civic_0305.cfm
And add some Tokicos or something. (modify them to fit)

Or this:
http://dezod.com/pd_dezod_motorsport...suspension.cfm

We can make you a custom package to suit your needs as well.
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^ Thanks for your inputs.

I wouldn't consider a $1000 suspension a high dollar suspension. I would consider it an inexpensive suspension. The suspension I want to get on my S2000 will cost $3-5000!
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Also if you are looking in the coilover market and dont want to spend much megan is probably the way to go. I got them on my car and they only cost 900$ shipped. They are pillow ball, and have a camber plate in the front, if you cared about good alignment the other part on the list is the rear camber kit. I love mine so far. You will loose on ride comfort of course if coilovers are the direction you decide to go, but with 200lbs of stereo equipement in the trunk you are at risk of rubbing on standard lowering springs. Coilovers will also have high spring rates 560 for the megan and 448 for the teins (I think) in the rear that well make it easier to counter that weight. Brand is probably all open the opinion, but seems like with that weight factor you should go for adjustability. Personally I wouls pick the megan's since you cant get pillow ***** ones cheaper and they still are really good.
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Bah, just pick up a set of Tokico D-Spec's and be done with it.

Seriously, why spend a bunch of cash on a "coilover" setup when the only real problem your having right now is with your dampers? so why not just replace the dampers?

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Old Aug 27, 2006
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
Bah, just pick up a set of Tokico D-Spec's and be done with it.

Seriously, why spend a bunch of cash on a "coilover" setup when the only real problem your having right now is with your dampers? so why not just replace the dampers?
The bigger issue is ride height adjustability. As previously mentioned, there is about 200 lbs worth of stereo equipment in the trunk. Without a setup that allows the ride height to be individually adjusted, the rear will sag (which it is currently doing now ).
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If you have the proper size Konis, which, if you have wobble in the housing I highly doubt you do, but check the nut on the bottom first, then either make use of the Koni warranty, or have them rebuilt. Koni does rebuild/revalves for $180 a pair.
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Originally Posted by Boilermaker1
If you have the proper size Konis, which, if you have wobble in the housing I highly doubt you do, but check the nut on the bottom first, then either make use of the Koni warranty, or have them rebuilt. Koni does rebuild/revalves for $180 a pair.
The Konis for the front are simply inserts--you have to use the OEM shock housings in combination with the Konis. In order to install the Konis, you have to make "some hole" in the OEM shock housing larger. Although this should be a simple procedure, apparently the shop that did the install made the hole a little to big.

Both the OEM shock housings and the Koni shocks need to be replaced. Even if I had this done I would still be left with the issue in the rear.

The bottom line is that given the weight issue in the trunk, I need a full coilover setup so that I can adjust the ride height to the point where the front and rear are even. The decision I need to make is which coilovers to go with.
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Originally Posted by quick silver
The Konis for the front are simply inserts--you have to use the OEM shock housings in combination with the Konis. In order to install the Konis, you have to make "some hole" in the OEM shock housing larger. Although this should be a simple procedure, apparently the shop that did the install made the hole a little to big.

Both the OEM shock housings and the Koni shocks need to be replaced. Even if I had this done I would still be left with the issue in the rear.

The bottom line is that given the weight issue in the trunk, I need a full coilover setup so that I can adjust the ride height to the point where the front and rear are even. The decision I need to make is which coilovers to go with.
If the fronts are too big then you got the wrong size. There are two sizes 50mm and 55mm.

If you just want to adjust the height and not worry about all the bells and whistles, stick with Tein basics or Tein SS IMO. Mugens are nonadjustable for height. Progress is going to ride stiff. B&G is good too, but I personally think Tein is better.
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Originally Posted by robbclark1
If the fronts are too big then you got the wrong size. There are two sizes 50mm and 55mm.

If you just want to adjust the height and not worry about all the bells and whistles, stick with Tein basics or Tein SS IMO. Mugens are nonadjustable for height. Progress is going to ride stiff. B&G is good too, but I personally think Tein is better.
I was looking at the Tein basics, but I have heard that the Teins are soft and end up squeaking over time.
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Originally Posted by quick silver
I was looking at the Tein basics, but I have heard that the Teins are soft and end up squeaking over time.
Soft - I didn't think so. They were comfy, but not hard like my JICs. I would trust tein to fix their squeaking if there was any. I knowo Progress are going to be uncomfortable by virtue of their spring rates. B&Gs are comprable to Tein. Eventually you are going to have to make a decision and run with it.
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I decided to spend the extra cash and bought another set of KW Variant 2s...which is the suspension I first had on the car about a year ago.
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