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I have a set of Tein S-tech springs going on my car soon, and I've been told that an alignment is not "necessary" with the drop that the springs will give me (1.3" approx). What do you guys think? Is it something that I can do without, or should I get one for good measure anyway?

 
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You need to align the car. It is necessary. Whoever told you you don't have to should be taken out back and shot.

 
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It isn't necessary if you want camber and toe problems

 
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just a observation...

i bet if you were a noob on the site they wouldn't answer your question they'd just talk **** and tell you to SEARCH! and this would be locked by now haha

 
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Well for starters, I did talk ****, I said to shoot whoever told you that, second, this is an oddball to the camber kit question, and isnt' a question that normally comes up and third, the thought crossed my mind about locking it, but I didn't see the point. I'm pretty sure I'm going to get a simple acknowledgement and that'll be the end of this, it'll fall off the page end of story.

 
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true true...i was just saying....

can i throw in a random question that i think you might know...that way i don't have to make a new thread about it? good! (if not..oops lol)

does not having a torsion bar for the trunk have any ill effects? it was hitting my passenger side 6x9 and causing me a lot of head ache..so on the way to work i pulled over and just yanked it out. i was trying to just bend it a bit..but the whole thing came out lol. speakers work now...but the trunks a bit heavier lol. just wanna make sure its not going to make my car explode or somehthing haha.

 
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thanks for the replies

and there are always room for exceptions. maybe they will be a lenient to somebody who contributes in a major way to the site, plays a part in running several sections of the board and posts answers to peoples questions based on knowledge and logic instead of guesses and incorrect advice. respect comes with experience

 
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geeeesh! i was just making a random comment!!! don't really care either way if people post the same question or whatever...i just dont read it!! glad you got your answer cleared up though.

 
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torsion bar? you mean the trunk springs? They are two things that looks like bars that criss cross in the trunk. Without them your trunk won't stay open.

 
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yeah those...i guess i got some wrong info (here on the site, I shoulda asked 1 of you guys...lol) about what they're called. i just wanted to make sure they didn't serve another purpose beside keeping the trunk open...

 
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nope...noob j/k




hahaha



Can't we all just get along?

 
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thanks!! see...2 noob questions answered in 1 thread..awesome! lol

 
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Dam... Wha'd I miss?

(I allways seem to be last to chime in lately....)



and just to make this post relivent..... altering the ride height that little may not cause too much camber gain... but its not camber that you should be worried about its the alteration of Toe.. as bad toe settings will eat tires 10X faster then just about any amount of camber... and Toe does get altered quite a bit when ever you alter the cars ride height. (and you cant really see it like camber, which is why more tire wear problems are blamed on camber then Toe)

 
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i have tien s-tech on my coupe and i never went to get an alignment. i havent had any problems with my tires. had it for over a year now.

 
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u don't need an alignment for that kinda drop, we have light cars, liitle bit of toe or camber won't do much damage to tires. my car has been dropped for 2 yrs now, I never got an alignment nore a camber kit and haven't had problems with tires. BTW next time use the search botton noob, locked.

lol jk, had to say that

 
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Well, this thread helps me too. I'm thinking of getting the S. Techs too, so...

 
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And btw, I know I'm gonna be told to search... but WTH is camber and toe?

 
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here's a peformance hanlding perspective...
http://www.ozebiz.com.au/racetech/theory/align.html

 
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DO NOT listen to ^^^^^^^^ ANY and all changes to suspension height WILL change the alignment. It's possible that it may not put it out of spec but if you only lower it .25" . Just cause he lives in a dream world were tires dont wear.

 
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Here is another link to maybe less technical site...

http://www.familycar.com/alignment.htm

 
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i lowered my car and got it aligned. then i raised my car an inch and had to get it realigned again cuz specs were all out. i had positive toe and positive camber on most of the tires so they were all pointing out not in. so yes u need an alignment on any change. i changed only 3 of the 4 heights and even the tire i didn't change was out. so u need an alignment on all four. whats a reasonable amount of time to get alignments? like every 6 monthes?

 
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I was talkin about unusual wear caused by camber & toe

 
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my alignment was way off, most numbers in the red, after lowering with eibach prokit.

 
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I can't remember how low I dropped my car when I got my tein SS, but I got it aligned immediately after installation. If I can remember correctly it was only an inch drop. I then asked if it was necessary for a camber kit; they told me no, but it helps. How exactly does it help? I know nothing of camber kits. I do want to optimize the handling of my car at a priority upgrade, though, so would this be a cost-efficient investment?

 
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camber kit allows the shop to properly adjust the alignment. Without it, the stock hardware won't be able to adjust far enough if the car is lowered past factory spec. I would say it is required. The shop I went to said they wouldn't be able to align it without one. SPC is a good brand.

 
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Whats a decent price for a good camber kit? And for this type of equipment, would it be advisable to buy it from an online store, or an aftermarket shop? I realize online store's often have cheaper prices but I have yet to find one thats 100% reliable.

 
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Find someone on this site that sells em. I got mine from a vendor here. Around $150 is average for a front and rear kit. Then the shop charged me around $180 to install and align.