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Old Nov 11, 2005
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OK, there is a way to change caster/camber but it's a PITA. I've been experimenting with this to improve my alignment for autocross. You loosen the right/left engine mounts, loosen the bolts (I think there's 6 of them) holding the subframe to the body and support it with floor jacks, and then yank the subframe in the direction you want to go (there's slop in the holes to permit this). Got this tip from stock class Mini cooper racers.

I had pretty uneven caster numbers stock and did this trick using a screw eye in the garage wall and a tie strap to pull the subframe in the direction I wanted, looked like a torture chamber. It worked but took several tries and it's a compromise at best; you may improve caster and make camber less even. I moved the subframe to get even caster numbers and then adjusted my homemade camber bolts to set the camber even. Now I've got -1.5 camber and 2 caster on both sides. And my alignment shop loves me for the repeat business.
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OK, there is a way to change caster/camber but it's a PITA. I've been experimenting with this to improve my alignment for autocross. You loosen the right/left engine mounts, loosen the bolts (I think there's 6 of them) holding the subframe to the body and support it with floor jacks, and then yank the subframe in the direction you want to go (there's slop in the holes to permit this). Got this tip from stock class Mini cooper racers.

I had pretty uneven caster numbers stock and did this trick using a screw eye in the garage wall and a tie strap to pull the subframe in the direction I wanted, looked like a torture chamber. It worked but took several tries and it's a compromise at best; you may improve caster and make camber less even. I moved the subframe to get even caster numbers and then adjusted my homemade camber bolts to set the camber even. Now I've got -1.5 camber and 2 caster on both sides. And my alignment shop loves me for the repeat business.
That is great... I noticed some slop when i was installing the front struts, seems to be about 3/16 inch play on each strut due to the bolt holes being larger than the bolts. I think the alignment term for this adjustment would be camber. yea, camber i think correct me if im wrong. thats when the bottoms of the tires go either directly away [left or right] from the center of the car, or go directly in toward the center of the car.

i hope that's clear.
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sliding the sub-frame will change caster, but it will also change drive axle angles. I would urge to use caution when doing this
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did you try rotating the upper spring perch? that works too.. altho it takes a LOT of trial and error to get the angles where you want it to...
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I haven't been able to take my car be checked. Been really busy after Wilma passed by Miami. Thanks again for the support guys.
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ummm bump guys...lol but i have the EXACT same problem as cubanmike 26...........heres my alignment specs..


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hmm..hope you can fix yours, but I found out mine was a bent rim. I took care of that, although my car still pulls a tiny bit to the right still.
I should align it again and see what's up.
Your car looks low; have you by any chance hit your rims really hard?
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ummm a couple times....but its stock height

bump..

by the way, they also told me i need to have my frame tweaked.....i bought my car brand new with the wheels and the aero kit....so would my warranty be able to cover the caster problem?

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well, since you haven't mess around with the suspension they should cover it under alignment..hopefully they won't give you a hard w/ the mods you alread have
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If your problem is that its pulling right its most likely NOT the alignment causing it from your printout. You have a caster lead to the right and a camber lead to the left so it SHOULD drive pretty straight. And as far as Honda covering the alignment you have a snow ***** chance in hell of that happening. Alignments dont go out of spec because of a factory deffect. 99.99999999999% of the time its do to the driver/road conditions
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oh ok damn..... well for some reason it pulls to the right really hard....i can be on a flat surface and i let go of the wheel and it goes to the right......it bugs me a lot...and i wanna know a cheap way it can be fixed, if not i can explore options if u all have any.
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oh ok damn..... well for some reason it pulls to the right really hard....i can be on a flat surface and i let go of the wheel and it goes to the right......it bugs me a lot...and i wanna know a cheap way it can be fixed, if not i can explore options if u all have any.
First check your air pressure.... If that isnt the problem then start with cross rotating your 2 front tires side to side if it pulls other direction replace tire/tires. Next jack both front tires off ground start car, does the steering wheel start to turn on its own? If so replace rack and pinion steering gear. With both tires off ground check for brake drag. Is one hard to spin? Look for lose or worn front end parts also............
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hmmmm thanks for the info my car only has 19K miles.....ill still try and do what u said...
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