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Old Sep 7, 2005
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2004 Civic VP

I am buying a used Civic tonight, 2004 5-speed value package. Honda web site says VP and HX do not have front or rear sway bars. Is this so? Does anyone know if these base models have front LCA that have holes for the bar links? I have read FAQ (thanks) and am quite aware of what I want in the suspension... I don't want lowered springs but I do want sway bars. BTW, great forum!
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i have a 04 vp civic-auto,...no it does not have front or rear sway bars....(i just bought a frunt upper strut bar...it helped alot) does it have holes for the thing? no idea, havent looked into it really
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the DX VP and HX do not come with front or rear sway bars...the LX/EX come with front and rear sway bars but they are small
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Thanks, raging and mike. Mike, how does your civic handle w/o sway bars?
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wihout it, theres kinda of alot of body-roll,...but if you get a front upper strut bar, and maybe a rear upper one, it makes a pretty big difference.
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you have to weld on endlink connectors for the front or get EX front LCAs. The rear is the same thing. You can weld them on or get EX LCAs. There is a DIY for rear sway bar and endlink brackets.

http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=155458

http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=155276

Front, I am not sure if you have to drill but I am assuming you will.
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There has to be enough LXs and EXs out there that if you want the sway bars you can buy a car with them.
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i have an 04 vp, no sway bars, for the front there is holes drilled and everything, just buy a bar and bolt it in. with the rear, the easy way (without fabbing your own stuff) is to get the progress rear sway hardware, and a rear sway of your choice.
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i have an 04 vp 5spd and mine handled like ****. i just lowered it and got 17 inch rims with falken tires and now it handles pretty good but i still need upper strut tower bars and sway bars for front and rear
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heres my setup, i love how it handles now:

Suspension/Wheel Modifications:
progress group 27mm front sway bar
progress group 22mm rear sway bar
progress group rear tie bar
neuspeed front upper strut tie bar
koni yellow adjustable shocks
ground control coilovers (lowered two inches all around)
specialty products company front camber adjustment bolts
specialty products company rear camber adjustment arms
2004 honda civic ex 15 inch alloy wheels
falken ziex ze-512 tires
powerslot slotted brake rotors
hawk hps high performance street compound brake pads
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ok, bought the car. It is black. It has 18k miles and one very tiny door ding pass side. Paid $11.8k. I am naming it the TRAITOR DX. If you knew which American car company that I design cars for you would understand... Oh the guilt! NO BLASTED TACH - that bites. 04/5spd/Civic, where did you buy yours? Mandangalo, you put the progress bar on? It works? I will order on (ebay)... Lots of cheap tie bars on ebay... are these ok? THANKS ALL
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haha i bought mine at local dealership. i got mine brand new for 12k
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Originally Posted by CHINGACHGOOK
ok, bought the car. It is black. It has 18k miles and one very tiny door ding pass side. Paid $11.8k. I am naming it the TRAITOR DX. If you knew which American car company that I design cars for you would understand... Oh the guilt! NO BLASTED TACH - that bites. 04/5spd/Civic, where did you buy yours? Mandangalo, you put the progress bar on? It works? I will order on (ebay)... Lots of cheap tie bars on ebay... are these ok? THANKS ALL
the progress front bolts right up to the undercarriage, all you need besides the bar is endlinks. the rear, you need to buy a bar, and the progress rear sway bar adapter kit, which is a kit you use to mount the bar to the vehicle.

oh, and btw, theres a bunch of vendors on this site that i got parts from, they are probably your best bet as far as customer service and satisfaction goes.

also, i paid 11.7k for my car, brand new with 5 miles on the odo. thats before taxes and stuff though.

if you want a tach, a good idea is to get an 01-02 lx/ex gauge cluster, they can be found on ebay, and they plug right in.
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Hummm, looks like I over paid for my civic, or your cars are still worth what you paid for them... The extent of my research on price was to check Kelly Blue book. It said that an '04 Civic VP with 18k miles should fetch $12.2 - and that's what the guy was asking for it. I got him down $400. Dang, I coulda had a new one...
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Hummm, looks like I over paid for my civic, or your cars are still worth what you paid for them... The extent of my research on price was to check Kelly Blue book. It said that an '04 Civic VP with 18k miles should fetch $12.2 - and that's what the guy was asking for it. I got him down $400. Dang, I coulda had a new one...
yeah, well maybe you didnt look at new because sticker on a new vp is like 15.3k. its very easy to talk them down. no problem though, you will probably be happy with your car. there are some annoyances though (lots of interior rattling), and other things, but once you get past those, its a good car.
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11,800? Looks like you paid a little much for it, you could have had a brand new VP for close to that price.
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Originally Posted by mandangalo
yeah, well maybe you didnt look at new because sticker on a new vp is like 15.3k. its very easy to talk them down. no problem though, you will probably be happy with your car. there are some annoyances though (lots of interior rattling), and other things, but once you get past those, its a good car.
I only paid $11.5 for my 2005 VP in December
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When did a suspension thread become a price war?
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It is just bad karma - I work for one of the Big 3 (hangs head in shame) it is only fitting that I paid too much.

but...

Got 40mpg @ almost 80mph on I94 this morning. I like it.
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'57 BMW Isetta 300 Delux
'64 Mini Cooper S 1275
'65 Jaguar E-type Roadster (in boxes)
'00 Ford Ranger 4cyl 5-speed
'03 Land Rover Disco SE7 (13mpg)
'04 Civic VP (40mpg)

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^ i think you mean mpg
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