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Old Jul 5, 2005
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Calling out alignment guru's

Hey I'm hoping that someone could tell me how much (in degrees) thier front and rear camber was off after dropping. Also how much it was dropped.
specifically 1-2 inch drops
thanks i hope somebody can help
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i have neuspeed sports and rear was off about -2.0 after an alignment(sp?)
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if tire wear is your concern, Camber isnt going to be your problem... Toe is. as Toe settings will eat tires 10X faster then just about any amount of negitive camber.
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hmm....interesting..

anywho, z, apparently, sears auto said that our car doesn't have any adjustment to rear camber, is this correct?

apparently also, my front toe was quite messed up...lol...from +0.42 --> +0.01 on the left and -0.73 --> +0.03 on the right..lol
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Depending on what you are lowering with and how low you are, your toe and camber could be really screwed up. But it depends on if you have coils or springs, and how low you are.
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what is toe again and how does it happen? I will be lowering my car soon and i do not want to chew my tires up.
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Toe will change with lowering, just like camber. its just harder to see, so people ushualy blame camber for their tire wear issues.

a little on alignments, Camber Toe ect.. and how to tune with then (at least the theroy behind it).

http://www.ozebiz.com.au/racetech/theory/align.html
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Originally Posted by zen_master
hmm....interesting..

anywho, z, apparently, sears auto said that our car doesn't have any adjustment to rear camber, is this correct?

apparently also, my front toe was quite messed up...lol...from +0.42 --> +0.01 on the left and -0.73 --> +0.03 on the right..lol

Yes, there is no stock adjustments for Camber...front or rear, all you can adjust is toe. though Honda does sell "Crash" bolts to adjust camber on the front as an OEM part.
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Toe goes in, camber goes negative. Depends on the drop and where you put the bolts back in (there's slop in the holes.
Expect your rear toe to go out and your camber to drastically increase.
An inch varies a lot. Just do it and get it aligned. If you're asking if it will be bad enough that you'll know the answer is yes. Spend the $59.99 and get it aligned.
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Due to our suspension geometry you're gonna get a whole lot more negative camber on the rear per inch lowered vs the front, however your rear toe shouldn't change. As you drop the car you're going to get toe out in the front, alot of it. That's the first thing that needs fixing.

Personally I run 0 front toe, -2deg front camber, a smidge of rear toe out and -0.5deg rear camber. the drop is about 1.75in with progress coilovers and sway bars. It's a pretty neutral setup leaning to gentle oversteer off the throttle.

Makes for a good AX setup, but it's a bit aggressive for the daily driver, it tends to want to pull with road surfaces and it tramlines a bit especially on sticky tires and bumpy or patchy road surfaces. Adding a little toe in for the front, zeroing the rear toe and taking the front camber down to about -1deg makes for a fun and very livable alignment.
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Thank you for the insight. I was just being curious before i align it. I'm waiting for my rear camber kit to come. I'm going to to use the factory available service bolts for the front. I got the pair for $6. I love my discount!
I can align it myself. I HAVE THE POWER, so no need to to spend money on that. I used H&R's to drop it so it's isn't real low. I'm hoping the service bolts will give me enough adjustment for the front.
Thanks to everyone that's giving there $.02.
A-Lo

Originally Posted by Sdcivic549
Due to our suspension geometry you're gonna get a whole lot more negative camber on the rear per inch lowered vs the front, however your rear toe shouldn't change. As you drop the car you're going to get toe out in the front, alot of it. That's the first thing that needs fixing.

Personally I run 0 front toe, -2deg front camber, a smidge of rear toe out and -0.5deg rear camber. the drop is about 1.75in with progress coilovers and sway bars. It's a pretty neutral setup leaning to gentle oversteer off the throttle.

Makes for a good AX setup, but it's a bit aggressive for the daily driver, it tends to want to pull with road surfaces and it tramlines a bit especially on sticky tires and bumpy or patchy road surfaces. Adding a little toe in for the front, zeroing the rear toe and taking the front camber down to about -1deg makes for a fun and very livable alignment.
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