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help after much researh
ok i have done a sufficient amount of research on this and still don't understand. this is why i have come to you guys and posted this thread. Now i have searched and read the threads on this but I don't seem to understand. i ask for someone to help me with this
I come to 7thgencivic a lot and I see a lot of nice cars, alot of them dropped. Now it is my understanding that you cannot drop the 7th generation civic without having to do an alteration to the strut. I know you can put srpings, but eventually your shocks will blow, whether its a month from now or two years. I want to put shocks and springs. I want to lower my car, and i want to do this and have it be reversible not irriversible.
now i want someone to tell me if this is poissible. koni says you have to make alterations that you can't go back. i read it is because honda decided to put the power steering high in the engine instead of low or something like that.
i would greatly appreciate it if someone would answer my concern thoroughly. is it possible, are their shocks that fit the civic without having to do alterations. thank you in advance
I come to 7thgencivic a lot and I see a lot of nice cars, alot of them dropped. Now it is my understanding that you cannot drop the 7th generation civic without having to do an alteration to the strut. I know you can put srpings, but eventually your shocks will blow, whether its a month from now or two years. I want to put shocks and springs. I want to lower my car, and i want to do this and have it be reversible not irriversible.
now i want someone to tell me if this is poissible. koni says you have to make alterations that you can't go back. i read it is because honda decided to put the power steering high in the engine instead of low or something like that.
i would greatly appreciate it if someone would answer my concern thoroughly. is it possible, are their shocks that fit the civic without having to do alterations. thank you in advance
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The steering arm is attached directly to the strut, like so:
It was supposed to reduce bump steer and torque steer.... it didn't really do either and just creates a whole lot of problems when it comes to messing with it. No one as of yet makes a set of performance dampers that are a full replacement. Spoon makes a set of Non-adjustable ones for the EP3 that you could use, they're $950 for the set, but other than that, Koni makes inserts for the front struts that require you to cut the old damper out and re-use the lower mount. This kept them from having to design a lower bracket with the steering arm. So you would have to cut the strut in the front, I think the rears are full replacements. Its not reversable, but they would work with stock springs if you ever went to trade the car in... You'd eat the price of the shocks, but I don't think anyone would even notice and I don't think the Konis would decrease the trade in value.
The only way right now to get full replacements is to go with a full set of coilovers (JIC, Tein, KW, etc...) which come as a spring and shock assembly. They're full replacements for the whole suspension and you'd just remove the stock springs and shocks completely.
It was supposed to reduce bump steer and torque steer.... it didn't really do either and just creates a whole lot of problems when it comes to messing with it. No one as of yet makes a set of performance dampers that are a full replacement. Spoon makes a set of Non-adjustable ones for the EP3 that you could use, they're $950 for the set, but other than that, Koni makes inserts for the front struts that require you to cut the old damper out and re-use the lower mount. This kept them from having to design a lower bracket with the steering arm. So you would have to cut the strut in the front, I think the rears are full replacements. Its not reversable, but they would work with stock springs if you ever went to trade the car in... You'd eat the price of the shocks, but I don't think anyone would even notice and I don't think the Konis would decrease the trade in value.
The only way right now to get full replacements is to go with a full set of coilovers (JIC, Tein, KW, etc...) which come as a spring and shock assembly. They're full replacements for the whole suspension and you'd just remove the stock springs and shocks completely.
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Rep Power: 424 That picture is a coilover.
The 4 factory units come out whole:
The 4 coilovers go back in:
They're more expensive... but you also get the ability to adjust the height.
Take a look at this website....click
I wrote this up after I did my friends springs.
You need to set them... its not like boom, done... it takes tinker time.
Search JIC, TEIN, KW, and COILOVERS and see what you come up with... there's gotta be some pretty good explainations on here.
The 4 factory units come out whole:
The 4 coilovers go back in:
They're more expensive... but you also get the ability to adjust the height.
Take a look at this website....click
I wrote this up after I did my friends springs.
You need to set them... its not like boom, done... it takes tinker time.
Search JIC, TEIN, KW, and COILOVERS and see what you come up with... there's gotta be some pretty good explainations on here.
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Rep Power: 412 yes true coils are a direct swap, but like boilermaker said, it takes more time to set them. Sleeved coils are like adjustable springs with no shocks. Springs will lower your car evenly.
Look around for different types of coils. I am not sure of your purpose for lowering but if you are going for show then hayame, tein basic, or spoons (non adjustable height) will be fine. If you plan on doing some track days but nothing big then KW V2s or Tein SS are good. From more advanced options, JIC or Tein Flex for the EP3. Moton also offers shocks but they are WAY expensive.
Look around for different types of coils. I am not sure of your purpose for lowering but if you are going for show then hayame, tein basic, or spoons (non adjustable height) will be fine. If you plan on doing some track days but nothing big then KW V2s or Tein SS are good. From more advanced options, JIC or Tein Flex for the EP3. Moton also offers shocks but they are WAY expensive.
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Rep Power: 0 all coilover are adjustable? then why do you say if you just want to lower you can get spoons, tein basic(non adjustable height) thismeans they cna't be adjusted
by the way guys thanks a lot, i didn't think anyone would respond. boilmaker man thanks your a G
by the way guys thanks a lot, i didn't think anyone would respond. boilmaker man thanks your a G
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Rep Power: 412 The spoons are a matched shock/spring set. They come fully ready to swap in, but they give a stable ride height. The Tein basics have adjustable height just not adjustable dampening.
Spoon stuff...
Tein Basic Description
Tein SS description
JIC FLTA-2 Description
KW V2's
Spoon stuff...
Tein Basic Description
Tein SS description
JIC FLTA-2 Description
KW V2's
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Rep Power: 336 Originally posted by streetglower
boilermaker, where did you get those rims? Damn those caught my eye fast as hell. Do you run those on the street or just at the track?
boilermaker, where did you get those rims? Damn those caught my eye fast as hell. Do you run those on the street or just at the track?
