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Ok, before all you performance guys go spouting off that these aren't good performance tires, I know. I'm not looking for performance - my Civic is stock except for a few upgrades. I'm looking for mostly a good ride, good price, and good traction (the wet traction on the Firestone FR690 blows chunks -- even dry traction blows). The T4's are T rated which is one step up from the S rated stock tires. Hopefully this will cut down on the squeeling around corners? Some performance characteristics would be good but I definitely don't need U, H, V, or whatever tires. I'm just wondering if anyone has heard good or bad things about them. The price is right (around $40/tire).

 
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I've heard a lot of good things about Yokohoma avid H4's. My friends got them on his rims and they give him great grip. These are a bit more expensive yet better than the tires they normally give you when you purchase rims . So you can't loose, go for it.

 
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Cool. Thanks for the reply! [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

 
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They are great tires. I am running them now. The main reason I got them was because the Firestones were terrible in rain, these have great traction in wet weather. Good choice in tires.

 
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not to mention they have very excellent tread wear.

 
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I have them right now on 215/45/17 and the ride is good. It's not the best, but good for daily driving.

 
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I love these tires. 195-60-15

 
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I had them and have now gone to the Dunlop SP Sports for a couple of reasons. I found the Avids to be a bit loud, they did not handle as well in either the dry or the rain, and The sidewell is not as strong as the Dunlop - oh and they are about the same price and have about the same warranty. tirerack has them for $50 each as does Whalen I believe.

JASON

 
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I've been doing alot of tire research lately, the Avid T4's have a treadwear rating of 420....thats not bad for the price, althought there is no warranty. 1jazzyciv made a good choice w/ the Dunlops, they make a good tire, and i believe they carry at least a 50,000 mile warranty. In my experiences, astr033, for what you are looking for, i have had good luck with Pirelli P400's. I am a big fan of Michelin, but price may be an issue. My michelin destiny's have an 80,000 mile warranty and 680 treadwear rating.
I guess all my rambling sums up to: The avids are gonna be good, i would look at the dunlops and pirelli's....if price isn't a factor, check out michelin.

 
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Hmmm, I will consider the Dunlops. Price is definitely a factor. I'm trying to get the best tire for the price. I'm not sure if I trust 1jazzyciv's review just because every single review I've seen on the T4's have said that the tires are very quiet. Even the bad reviews gave a thumbs-up in terms of noise. I wonder why 1jazzyciv's T4's are so loud. Regardless, thank you for the info on the SP Sports. I will give them a look.

 
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I just checked out the Dunlop SP Sport A2 tires on tirerack.com. They look pretty good. They don't have any 185/70/14's. The closest they have is 185/65/14. Does that make any difference? I may spend the extra $11 per tire to go with the SP Sports. Thank you, 1jazzyciv, for your suggestion. I'm sorry for saying that I didn't trust your review but now that I see how quiet the Dunlops supposedly are I can see that the Yokohamas may be relatively louder. Whichever tire I get I'm sure it will be a huge improvement over the stock Firestones on our Civics. Talk about no wet traction!

 
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ok gotta webpage to check out link
This does prove me wrong about the warranty on the avids....the 7 dollars difference is really the only difference factor.....your choice!
Also, that size (195/65/14) makes the speedo 0.895%too fast....which is nothing.