I'm not a crazy track guy ... nor do I abuse my car in canyons and usch ... however, I think a big brake kit would look awesome and hopefully would allow me to stop better.

I know, big brakes don't do much other than keep heat better, but I was looking into getting a big rotor Wilwood kit with drilled & slotted rotors... I think that it would look awesome, no?

what do u guys think?

Two things.

1. sure BBK look cool (they do after all)
2. No they wont help you stop better. if you want to stop faster, get better tires.

one more thing, from my track friends... Willwood calipers are known to leak after a time, so keep an eye on them (its ushuall the "square" o-ring that goes, and willwood does have rebuild kits). other wise its a pretty good kit, thats more or less worthless for general street use "bling" aside.

Have fun!

You know what I think....


But Zzyzx is so right. You might feel a little difference but not a lot for the price you pay. Also with the Wilwood rotors you will need to maintenance them quite often... thank god my little brother is a Honda Mechanic and has access to all the machines because it will cost you in the long run. Also if you do get a used set be sure to buy a new stainless steel hoses! That is the only problem I have had.

As far as Bling goes... it's a 100% turn you head bling'.

texascivic2k1

^^ what you "feel" is the difference in torqe applied by either setup. problem is this additional torqe doesnt help you stop faster, it just reduces the amount of brake pedal travle needed to reach your tires lock up point. Meaning, the amount of brake torqe the tires can apply to the ground hasent changed, just the amount of pedal travle needed to reach that point. (so stopping power hasn't changed).

^^^ Agree.

I know I won't stop better ... I already mentioned that. but my hope is that with the big rotor, it will hold heat better, which would effectively keep my stopping power strong longer than brembo blanks would, correct?

I have 225/45/17 michelin pilot sport 2 tires ... I don't know any street tires that are much better than these. Maybe yoko advan neova ad07's ... but then again, those are gonna be my next set.

I'll need to maintenance the calipers often? ... is it the same issue with the rubber ring that zzyzx was talking about?

I think it looks good ... for some reason, the caliper looks kinda small?

I might go for the powerslot kit instead ... perhaps that is a better alternative? ...

and yes, I am mostly interested in the "bling" ... since I am leaning to have my car look more towards the "VIP" status. (on a civic? No. but yes, I can try to make it look "nice" and "classy" at the same time)

If you want the look i say go for it

No not maintenace with the calipers... with the rotors (resurfaced and turning). I haven't had that problem with it leeking but have heard rumors and stories about it tho but never witness it (not calling zzyzx a liar at all or not ture at all, I believe him). The caliper is a okay size. They might look small because it's a 18" wheel... I dunno.

I understand about the bling status your talking about.

Here is my Rotora Big Brake Kit.. I love it

The only one of those thats really worth sinking any money into is the $2000/axle Stoptech kit, and thats because they actually put the time into getting the P/V ratios in the calipers to match the stock ones.
I still don't think they're of much use, an enormous rotor, especially if you're using them hard, cost a crap load of money to replace and for bling factor it seems like a waste and a safety thing.

That having been said, you can make ITR/Prelude brakes fit the front, its an 11" rotor and it does work quite well, without mucking around with a lot of things to the extent that a 4 piston caliper will.

Short of it is get better brake pads that can handle more heat.

So what about getting a Upgrade kit.. its just new lines, breakfluid, Pads and slotted rotters. Basically to cool them faster so when your under a lot of breaking from high speeds the higher heat wont affect your stopping power as much?

^^ slotting doesnt cool the brakes faster, it just helps reduce the chance of glazing the pads under heavy repeated brakeing.


Basically, if you arent overheating the brakes now then OEM is fine for you (as its fine for most street driven cars). if you are experianceing a little fade now and again, then changing pads + Fluid is the 1st step. if that doesnt solve the problem then larger rotors may be on order. but its pretty much the last step in dealing with brake fade.

One more question hate to try and steal the thread.. but it goes along the line of this toppic..

Ive experinced it twice now, my callipers aren't pushing flush. its like the pad instead of being flat | | its more like / \ in the front of my car. Is this from just extream stopping? Or the calipers just crap? or is it my bads, ive been trying different brands But i do a lot of track driving as well as hills and dragging.

now THAT is a sexy kit! looks similar to the DC5-R brembos

are those 17" rims? ... was the kit expensive?

Yeah, the Rotora is a very nice kit, and the price is around $1,400-$1,500( http://www.sportcompactonly.com/prod...tm_medium=shop ). I like that kit alot better than the Wilwood due to the small caliper sizing. I chose this path..... http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=254014

I had full ITR brembos and silver ITR rims waiting to be put on for over 6 months ... I was just waiting for my motor to come over here from Malaysia.

unfortunately, I didn't wait long enough ... 3 months later, it arrived and I had already sold my brembo setup

Yeah, my friend Andrew(White ITR DC5) told me about that....what a bummer man....the Rotora's are nice though, seem to be nice quality...

^ haha. I know that guy ... his friend with the TSX bought it off me

Yeah...I bought these ITR's off of his friend with a complete JDM EP3....perhaps I bought your old setup? LOL

^ yeah maybe.

if it's missing the rear sway bar, then that's most likely my setup. (because I kept the rear sway)

Fuck.

hope the dude sold it to you for "cheap". I sold the whole setup minus the rear sway and the rims to Andrew's friend for $1200 picked up

Yuuuup.....no rear sway bar. Wow, talk about a small world if it happens to be your old setup....

I don't understand how a six-pot caliper wouldn't provide better braking then a two-pot caliper??? A six-pot caliper offers much greater clamping force. That, combined with a larger rotor, should provide greater stopping power, k-no?

I haven't seen any 6 piston braking systems that could fit in the em2 chasis....pads/fluid control braking power much more than the amount of pistons. Fade resistance is more along the lines of what "big brake" kits do. So yes, braking will feel more powerful because less pressure is needed to clamp down on the rotor.

I am speaking in general terms--not car specific. I am looking at buying some Wilwood 6 pot calipers, 13" rotors and upgraded pads for my S2000. You can't tell me that this setup won't offer superior braking over my OEM setup.

The master cylinder only pushes so hard. Unless you got the fluid flow to compress 6 pistons (which you don't), then it does you no good.

So, your saying that the pistons would be "under pressured"? Steel-braided brake lines will help keep the fluid flowing "solidly" to the calipers.

Also, with the lighter weight rotors, you'll have less rotating mass so braking distance should be reduced from that alone.

Yeah...if you really want "braking power" as you call it....upgrade your master cylinder and booster.....then you'll feel like you're gonna fly through your windshield.....your call though...

Yes they are 17's.. They dont make this rims anymore.. I got my kit for a grand.. cuz my kit was the demo kit from Rotora..

Thanks...but I think the S2000 brake master cylinder and brake booster are more than up to the challenge.

idk if im stating the obvious, but if you have serious power under the hood, you need serious stopping power too. get one. its not like it would hurt anything.