Wheels too big!
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Wheels too big!
Hey guys, I just recently got some new wheels on my civic, sedan but they are a little too wide and just allign with the wheel well. Because it doesn't fall into the well, when I hit a bump or a dip and don't slow down it rubs on the well's edge... Any opinions on a possible fix? Or should I continue to look for different wheels, the rims are only 17, but tires are 235x45
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Love how people responded to this post, but don't seem to offer any help to the thread's point/question..
You should try first off rolling your fenders. My 215s would rub so this was done to save the tires.. as for 235s, I don't know if this would do enough but first thing I would try - without changing the tires out altogether.
You should try first off rolling your fenders. My 215s would rub so this was done to save the tires.. as for 235s, I don't know if this would do enough but first thing I would try - without changing the tires out altogether.
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Originally Posted by Karumba
Love how people responded to this post, but don't seem to offer any help to the thread's point/question...
Originally Posted by Karumba
changing the tires out altogether.
im sure you can sell them and get some new ones>> go to ebay...
is there any pics?
are you lowered?
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Originally Posted by Sick Cycle
215's don't rub ... unless the offset on your rims are like +60
235's are too big .. especially for rims smaller than 8" wide
225's come close, but don't rub if you have the right rims
235's are too big .. especially for rims smaller than 8" wide
225's come close, but don't rub if you have the right rims
do you think they'll rub? both tires and rims
i always need to do U turns and parallel parking in down town toronto...
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Rep Power: 0 the lower the offset the more the wheel sticks out, therefore more likely to rub. we need to know a lil more about your setup. are you lowered? if so how much. if you are going to keep those tires, try rolling the fenders a,d get a camber kit and adjust a lil more negative camber so that your tires lean in
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Originally Posted by acidbaby
that will fit fine^
i know for sure the fitment is perfect ofcourse, but what i am concerned is about rubbing (both outter and inner fender)
btw, i am lowered approx. 2.1"
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Rep Power: 0 then 215/45 WILL rub. my friend was droped on progress springs, 1.8 inches, and on 215/45/17 tires. he had the camber adjusted in(negative) but anytime he turned or hit a bump he rubbed bad.i was dropped around 2 inches on gc's with 215/40/17 and barely had any gap but didnt rub. its allrelative to what springs and shcoks you have though because if you have a soft setup then it is more likely to rub over bumps and suchs because it will give more than a stiff suspension.
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215/45/17 will rub if your dropped more then a inch. I have that same tire size and i'm dropped on neuspeed sport springs and my rears would rub if i made hard turns. My fronts would rub on deep bumps. The way i fixed it was just shaving off that inner lip within the rear fender. I don't know why honda put it there, it doesn't do anything except cause problems.
I would try that if your rubbing in the rears. But 225 is the max you should go, even then you'll rub on turns.
I would try that if your rubbing in the rears. But 225 is the max you should go, even then you'll rub on turns.
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Originally Posted by TemjinX2
215/45/17 will rub if your dropped more then a inch. I have that same tire size and i'm dropped on neuspeed sport springs and my rears would rub if i made hard turns. My fronts would rub on deep bumps. The way i fixed it was just shaving off that inner lip within the rear fender. I don't know why honda put it there, it doesn't do anything except cause problems.
I would try that if your rubbing in the rears. But 225 is the max you should go, even then you'll rub on turns.
I would try that if your rubbing in the rears. But 225 is the max you should go, even then you'll rub on turns.
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Originally Posted by riced
^ i agree that the offset is what matters the most, how about the rim width?
will a 7.5" wide rim with same size tires as a 7" rim rub as much? (if given that size tires will rub , ie: 225)
will a 7.5" wide rim with same size tires as a 7" rim rub as much? (if given that size tires will rub , ie: 225)
The wider you go, the more critical it becomes becuase you have other interferences that come into play. Example... you can't use a 15x8, it doesn't clear the rear A arm, 15x7.5 is severely limited to lower offsets, same reason. You can use a 16x7.5 provided the offset is 43 or less, 16x8 with 38 or less (you need to shift 1/4 an inch over for the extra 1/2" width), etc... by 17x7.5 offset becomes less of an issue because you don't have a-arm issues anymore. Then it just falls on the tire selection. Shorter than stock has a better chance of fitting than stock or slightly larger than stock.
As long as the tire fits the rim, putting it on a 1/2" wider rim will do nothing to make it fit better in the fenders. The VW stretch thing where you stuff a 195 on a 9" rim, will effect what clears. That tire stretching thing goes back to some old dumb european law.
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Originally Posted by Ser1N
I would also like to know what rolling fenders are? I may need to do this to my hatchback =D
I have 225/45/17's and trust me thats as big as they can get without rolling first.....guy who works at the place I get tires from has 235/35/19 on his 7th and hes fine thanks to the right offset and rolling.....but wide slows ya down
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Originally Posted by EMTwannabe
I'm on 215/45R17 with a 1.5-2" drop and it fits without any problems. You just need the right rim offset for it. That inner lip is there for structural rigidity. If it was there at all your fenders wouldn't have as much strength.
i've had shaved it like over a month ago and haven't had any problems with the rear fenders.
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sorry, i had too after i saw the title.
thats big tymers, btw
sorry, i had too after i saw the title.
thats big tymers, btw
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Originally Posted by Boilermaker1
Once again, it depends on the offset.
The wider you go, the more critical it becomes becuase you have other interferences that come into play. Example... you can't use a 15x8, it doesn't clear the rear A arm, 15x7.5 is severely limited to lower offsets, same reason. You can use a 16x7.5 provided the offset is 43 or less, 16x8 with 38 or less (you need to shift 1/4 an inch over for the extra 1/2" width), etc... by 17x7.5 offset becomes less of an issue because you don't have a-arm issues anymore. Then it just falls on the tire selection. Shorter than stock has a better chance of fitting than stock or slightly larger than stock.
As long as the tire fits the rim, putting it on a 1/2" wider rim will do nothing to make it fit better in the fenders. The VW stretch thing where you stuff a 195 on a 9" rim, will effect what clears. That tire stretching thing goes back to some old dumb european law.
The wider you go, the more critical it becomes becuase you have other interferences that come into play. Example... you can't use a 15x8, it doesn't clear the rear A arm, 15x7.5 is severely limited to lower offsets, same reason. You can use a 16x7.5 provided the offset is 43 or less, 16x8 with 38 or less (you need to shift 1/4 an inch over for the extra 1/2" width), etc... by 17x7.5 offset becomes less of an issue because you don't have a-arm issues anymore. Then it just falls on the tire selection. Shorter than stock has a better chance of fitting than stock or slightly larger than stock.
As long as the tire fits the rim, putting it on a 1/2" wider rim will do nothing to make it fit better in the fenders. The VW stretch thing where you stuff a 195 on a 9" rim, will effect what clears. That tire stretching thing goes back to some old dumb european law.
given that my car is lowered 2".
what would be the max to go? ie: how much lowered, size of rims + tires, that would NOT cause rubbing
does the coupe and sedan have a different size wheel well?
also by "(you need to shift 1/4 an inch over for the extra 1/2" width)", do you mean, for every 1/2 inch increase in width, you need a 1/4 inch increase in diameter?
also, what do you mean by "As long as the tire fits the rim, putting it on a 1/2" wider rim will do nothing to make it fit better in the fenders"?
thanks for the help, might be asking noob questions, but i don't seem to find these info elsewhere
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given that my car is lowered 2". No idea, buy the wheels and figure it out the alignment plays in too much
what would be the max to go? ie: how much lowered, size of rims + tires, that would NOT cause rubbing no idea, too many factors
does the coupe and sedan have a different size wheel well? no
also by "(you need to shift 1/4 an inch over for the extra 1/2" width)", do you mean, for every 1/2 inch increase in width, you need a 1/4 inch increase in diameter? to keep the wheel centerline the same, every time the wheel gets wider, you need to shift the offset by half the total wheel width increase (a 7.5" +43 has the same centerline as a +38 8")
also, what do you mean by "As long as the tire fits the rim, putting it on a 1/2" wider rim will do nothing to make it fit better in the fenders"? you can't change whether or not it rubs by putting it on a wider or skinnier rim provided that it fits that rim, you're not going to gain any clearance by putting it on a rim thats 1/2" wider or skinnier, the tread block won't bend that much, so if it doesnt fit, it just doesn't fit.
thanks for the help, might be asking noob questions, but i don't seem to find these info elsewhere
I don't go putting every set of wheels I find on my car to see if it fits, nor do I keep adjusting my car to figure out if it fits. So I can never guarantee what does and doesnt, nor can I speculate what any given drop does. All I can do is theorize yes or no, and it depends on the alignment of the car and the individual tire (some 215 tires measure 220, some measure 206, its a crap shoot).
Once you lower a car, all bets are off and you're on your own to make it fit. No one guarantees it, there's a billion factors that play in it.
given that my car is lowered 2". No idea, buy the wheels and figure it out the alignment plays in too much
what would be the max to go? ie: how much lowered, size of rims + tires, that would NOT cause rubbing no idea, too many factors
does the coupe and sedan have a different size wheel well? no
also by "(you need to shift 1/4 an inch over for the extra 1/2" width)", do you mean, for every 1/2 inch increase in width, you need a 1/4 inch increase in diameter? to keep the wheel centerline the same, every time the wheel gets wider, you need to shift the offset by half the total wheel width increase (a 7.5" +43 has the same centerline as a +38 8")
also, what do you mean by "As long as the tire fits the rim, putting it on a 1/2" wider rim will do nothing to make it fit better in the fenders"? you can't change whether or not it rubs by putting it on a wider or skinnier rim provided that it fits that rim, you're not going to gain any clearance by putting it on a rim thats 1/2" wider or skinnier, the tread block won't bend that much, so if it doesnt fit, it just doesn't fit.
thanks for the help, might be asking noob questions, but i don't seem to find these info elsewhere
I don't go putting every set of wheels I find on my car to see if it fits, nor do I keep adjusting my car to figure out if it fits. So I can never guarantee what does and doesnt, nor can I speculate what any given drop does. All I can do is theorize yes or no, and it depends on the alignment of the car and the individual tire (some 215 tires measure 220, some measure 206, its a crap shoot).
Once you lower a car, all bets are off and you're on your own to make it fit. No one guarantees it, there's a billion factors that play in it.
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Originally Posted by blouisgod
-2 degrees of negative camber can stop all rubbing 
jubei951, not to rag on you any more than everyone else who has responded, but you DO know that such a huge tire will throw your speedo and odometer settings off significantly right?
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Rep Power: 0 i've got 215-45-17 and I rub w/ sportlines and correct camber. Rather than rolling, I guess you can "shave" or "cut" that lip off, anyone got more info on that? I'd rather cut it than try to roll it and f'up the paint. I've got till spring until I try to do this....
