help! no traction in rain
Thread Starter
im stock now! T.T
iTrader: (18)
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,665
Likes: 0
From: CA
Rep Power: 290 
help! no traction in rain
ok for some reason my rear side seems to have no traction but front is good. On highway speeds I can feel the car having no traction and sliding. Its only when it rains alot. Does anyone know why I am having this problem? my rear tires are bald on one side because of the camber and its old. Fronts have been changed a week ago. Should I change the back immediately too? I use yokohama es100 tires
Thread Starter
im stock now! T.T
iTrader: (18)
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,665
Likes: 0
From: CA
Rep Power: 290 
umm, I know the es100s are crappy in rain/snow. Here in cali it doesnt rain that much. Its been decades since it rained this much. I cannot afford to have winter tires seperate. When I got an alignment the tech told me it wouldnt be as good as it would be with a camber kit. Im going to get a camber kit for rears cuz fronts r good. I have to drive like 60 to get traction. If I go like 70-75 in hard rain I will feel tires in the rear sliding. I think its because the rears have no more thread left at all. I mean none at all.
So should I get new tires for rears first or get camber kit then tires..? suggestions would be appreciated.
So should I get new tires for rears first or get camber kit then tires..? suggestions would be appreciated.
Registered!!
iTrader: (20)
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 4,111
Likes: 1
From: Cleveland, OH
Rep Power: 330 




tire manufacturers reccommned having your best tires on the rear of the car, regardless of whether it is FWD or RWD. having bad rear tires changes the handling characteristics, and you have pretty much said you either can't handle it or just don't like it.
if you drive 70-75 in the rain you're being retarded though. no tires will solve that
if you drive 70-75 in the rain you're being retarded though. no tires will solve that
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,242
Likes: 0
From: so cal djmota=oscar
Rep Power: 324 



first get some rear camber kits, then some new tires, finally slow down in the rain. My yoko parada spec 2's start to hydroplane in puddles around 70 ish I slow down to 65 or so and its no problem. They only hydroplane when the water is puddling up on the freeway.
I like you! do you like me?
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 1,090
Likes: 0
From: Sheapshead Bay, Brooklyn, NYC, NY, USA
Rep Power: 0 
lol i learned the hard way to keep the better tires in the back. about a year ago i was driving home from my ex girl's house in pouring rain. this is when i had my stock firestones on with about 19,000 miles on them. those tires SUCKED! i had just recently rotated them and the rears were bald from all the stupid burn outs i did when the car was new. anyway, i was taking a right turn at about 60 on the highway that my car usually takes with no problem. the rear end just came out ever so slightly and i began counter steering to try to catch it. it was too late. the car did a 180 and went into the guard rail. did another 180 and went head first into the huge yellow bins filled with sand and water at about 35 mph. i though my car was totally wrecked. i get out of the car and there was no ****ing body damage!!! only a few minor scratches on the front bumper and like 1/4 of my lip cracked from hiiting the half foot curb befor the guard rail. that was the luckiest day of my life and really taught me a lesson. always keep the better tires in the back and drive slow in the damn rain! btw now i have falken ze 512's to protect my ***. hope this helps you...
Go with BFG GForce KDW....they have been great in the rain for me. And as a tire dealer, we recommend new tires always go on the rear. Some people don't like it, but at least we have recommended it.
Broken Arm, How Am I Suppost To Shift
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 546
Likes: 0
From: Las Vegas. NV
Rep Power: 0 


ok..heres the deal........i stil have my stock firestones...(yea i know) i have like 40K on them and there balding......bad.....like....i need to change them tommarow bad...anyway..its hella poring out here in vegas now. like monsune season...and i hold traction just fine........when im not doing 80+...........................DRIVE SLOWER!!!!!
Subarus FTW I do NOT miss my civic
iTrader: (9)
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,595
Likes: 0
From: Scottsdale, AZ
Rep Power: 0 
I cant believe you dont know why you get no traction when your tires are bald. This was a waist of a thread. Get a camber kit, they arent that much. Than get new tires, and alignment RIGHT after. You will get better traction. I drive 70-90 in the rain and get good traction. get it all fixed.
Wow... you're driving that fast in THIS rain? Holy crap man you're crazy. I dunno though, I still have the stock firestones with 52,XXX on them and I've driven 70 without any problems in the rain.
Thread Starter
im stock now! T.T
iTrader: (18)
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,665
Likes: 0
From: CA
Rep Power: 290 
i dont go 70 constantly i keep it at 60 but if the rain slows down i will be able to speed p.. what camber kit is good for our cars? something cheap and that will do the trick. gonna get camber kit and tires then get alignment. Only my rears have bad camber. the fronts are good to go..
Powered by Honda...
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 851
Likes: 0
From: Savannah, GA
Rep Power: 273 

Originally Posted by EternalBlue_Vic
Why the hell are you even driving that fast in HARD RAIN!?
Currently boosted at 0 psi.
iTrader: (2)
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 1,241
Likes: 0
From: Southern OC, Ca
Rep Power: 0 
Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
Its been decades since it rained this much.
Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
If I go like 70-75 in hard rain I will feel tires in the rear sliding.
Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
suggestions would be appreciated.
Thread Starter
im stock now! T.T
iTrader: (18)
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,665
Likes: 0
From: CA
Rep Power: 290 
blah blah blah... i dont go 70-75 I go around 60. Yokohamas arent that great in the rain but its ok. I rotated my tires today. Hopefully it rains again so I can see if the same thing will happen. For all you people that told me I should have the new tires in the back and the bald tires in the front. If I die today, remember it is your fault and I will haunt you for life..
for those people that told me to move the new tires to the back and bald tires to the front, are you sure the same thing wont happen, but in front?
for those people that told me to move the new tires to the back and bald tires to the front, are you sure the same thing wont happen, but in front?
Autocross Junky
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 7,211
Likes: 0
From: Las Vegas, Nevada, US
Rep Power: 381 










Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
for those people that told me to move the new tires to the back and bald tires to the front, are you sure the same thing wont happen, but in front?
Think of it this way...
when your rear tires lose traction you spin. when your front tires lose traction you go in a stratight line.... which would you perfer?
Broken Arm, How Am I Suppost To Shift
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 546
Likes: 0
From: Las Vegas. NV
Rep Power: 0 


Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
i dont go 70 constantly i keep it at 60 but if the rain slows down i will be able to speed p.. what camber kit is good for our cars? something cheap and that will do the trick. gonna get camber kit and tires then get alignment. Only my rears have bad camber. the fronts are good to go..
it really doesnt matter if your doing 60 or even 50,, rain is rain, and hydro planeing is hydro planeing, my father was driving to work one morning, on the 15 fwy and he was doing 55-60 it wasnt even raining the roads were wet from the earlyer (he went to work around 5:30) then my mother gets a call from my dad, turns out, hey hydro planed high 98 dodge dakoda (weighed down about 500+ pounds of equipment) and flip'd it on its side) the truck wasnt total'd but just goes to show you it dont take much....and his tires were perfect.
p.s i know my spelling is screwd but its late, and i just got off work...
Thread Starter
im stock now! T.T
iTrader: (18)
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,665
Likes: 0
From: CA
Rep Power: 290 
i would prefer losing traction in front then... well i did a rotation took me 30 mins with stock jack stands. Hopefully the front will be good til i get new tires for the fronts now...
Boosting Daily
iTrader: (14)
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,084
Likes: 1
From: Goldsboro, NC
Rep Power: 285 


Originally Posted by Civic_RedLine
i did a rotation, took me 30 mins with stock jack stands....
30mins!? Did you stop half-way to bake cookies or something? Should have taken you only 5-10min tops even with only jack stands!n00bs
Thread Starter
im stock now! T.T
iTrader: (18)
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,665
Likes: 0
From: CA
Rep Power: 290 
Originally Posted by EternalBlue_Vic
yet again---->
30mins!? Did you stop half-way to bake cookies or something? Should have taken you only 5-10min tops even with only jack stands!
n00bs
30mins!? Did you stop half-way to bake cookies or something? Should have taken you only 5-10min tops even with only jack stands!n00bs

that wont happen anymore cuz the stand is at the edge so I wont need to remove everything unless i need my spare.



