I am going to purchase new brakes and rotors soon and I have decided I am going to go with Brembo rotors. Now I haven't decided whether to get the blanks or the slotted.
I have spoken with Boiler about this and this is how I learned about it. Of course there is a price difference. Tireack.com has the slotted for 161.00 the pair and importrp.com has the blanks for 29 a piece so 60 bucks basically.
I just want to know if the difference between the blanks and the slotted is big enough for me to invest in the slotted. What do you guys think?
I have spoken with Boiler about this and this is how I learned about it. Of course there is a price difference. Tireack.com has the slotted for 161.00 the pair and importrp.com has the blanks for 29 a piece so 60 bucks basically.
I just want to know if the difference between the blanks and the slotted is big enough for me to invest in the slotted. What do you guys think?
cross drilled brembos.. .. best rotors i ve ever had.. check my gallery.. you'll see pics of it.. alot better than blanks and slotted you cannot resurface.. i had resuface mines once already.. i ve had them for almost two years now. there great .. good luck
So you can't resurface slotted rotors? Is that a good thing I mean is it ok for slotted ones to not have to be resurfaced or should I say normal.
DAm!! $161 for a pair!!! thats a lot, i got mines for 120 out the door. Im pretty sure u can get it cheaper somewhere else and as far as performance goes its almost the same as stock untill the rotor gets really hot then ull feel the difference on the slotted drilled rotors.
Depends, are you hard on your brakes? Do you do any mountain runs? Track days???
If not then drilled will do perfectly fine. if you do, then you DO NOT want drilled rotors. Blankes are perfect for 99% of all appllications, other wise if you have the $$$ slotted would do fine.
And you can Reserface slotted rotors....
If not then drilled will do perfectly fine. if you do, then you DO NOT want drilled rotors. Blankes are perfect for 99% of all appllications, other wise if you have the $$$ slotted would do fine.
And you can Reserface slotted rotors....
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Originally Posted by dru106
DAm!! $161 for a pair!!! thats a lot, i got mines for 120 out the door. Im pretty sure u can get it cheaper somewhere else and as far as performance goes its almost the same as stock untill the rotor gets really hot then ull feel the difference on the slotted drilled rotors. The real ones with the cast in holes are about $160-180 for a pair. The 3rd party machined ones are a lot cheaper, because they're not nearly as strong. All the cheap ones are is a blank that someone machined. Thats big time issues for strength because you're putting stress in places brembo didn't account for it.
Hmmm.......Interesting. I dunno looks high quality to me but oh well these are fine
Can u tell the diff just by lookin at it? Cuz when i got it it was in a new box that says brembo on it
Ya they come in a brembo box because there brembo blanks that some other company drilled and slotted them for you.
I am really hard on my brakes. I don't go to the track nor have mountains to play with here in Miami, but I do brake hard and brake realy hard compared to normal drivers. I like to speed on the highwa and hit them hard. So that is why I am gong to upgrade because I feel that I better have good brakes if i am going to continue like this. Better Safe than Sorry.
So i wanted to know that for high speed braking if the blanks will do just fine or will the slotted give me more.
So i wanted to know that for high speed braking if the blanks will do just fine or will the slotted give me more.
cross drilled... better than blanks .. can be resurface.... and i hit those babys hard all the time.. no problems... if you get blanks ... you wont notice the difference.. i never tired slotted.. i just know they cannot be resurface... cross drilled better. check my gallery
courtesy of James Walker of scR Motorsports.
Crossdrilling
Crossdrilling your rotors might look neat, but what is it really doing for you? Well, unless your car is using brake pads from the 40’s and 50’s, not a whole lot. Rotors were first ‘drilled’ because early brake pad materials gave off gasses when heated to racing temperatures – a process known as ‘gassing out’. These gasses then formed a thin layer between the brake pad face and the rotor, acting as a lubricant and effectively lowering the coefficient of friction. The holes were implemented to give the gasses ‘somewhere to go’. It was an effective solution, but today’s friction materials do not exhibit the same gassing out phenomenon as the early pads.
For this reason, the holes have carried over more as a design feature than a performance feature. Contrary to popular belief they don’t lower temperatures (in fact, by removing weight from the rotor, the temperatures can actually increase a little), they create stress risers allowing the rotor to crack sooner, and make a mess of brake pads – sort of like a cheese grater rubbing against them at every stop. (Want more evidence? Look at NASCAR or F1. You would think that if drilling holes in the rotor was the hot ticket, these teams would be doing it.)
The one glaring exception here is in the rare situation where the rotors are so oversized (look at any performance motorcycle or lighter formula car) that the rotors are drilled like Swiss cheese. While the issues of stress risers and brake pad wear are still present, drilling is used to reduce the mass of the parts in spite of these concerns. Remember – nothing comes for free. If these teams switched to non-drilled rotors, they would see lower operating temperatures and longer brake pad life – at the expense of higher weight. It’s all about trade-offs.
Crossdrilling
Crossdrilling your rotors might look neat, but what is it really doing for you? Well, unless your car is using brake pads from the 40’s and 50’s, not a whole lot. Rotors were first ‘drilled’ because early brake pad materials gave off gasses when heated to racing temperatures – a process known as ‘gassing out’. These gasses then formed a thin layer between the brake pad face and the rotor, acting as a lubricant and effectively lowering the coefficient of friction. The holes were implemented to give the gasses ‘somewhere to go’. It was an effective solution, but today’s friction materials do not exhibit the same gassing out phenomenon as the early pads.
For this reason, the holes have carried over more as a design feature than a performance feature. Contrary to popular belief they don’t lower temperatures (in fact, by removing weight from the rotor, the temperatures can actually increase a little), they create stress risers allowing the rotor to crack sooner, and make a mess of brake pads – sort of like a cheese grater rubbing against them at every stop. (Want more evidence? Look at NASCAR or F1. You would think that if drilling holes in the rotor was the hot ticket, these teams would be doing it.)
The one glaring exception here is in the rare situation where the rotors are so oversized (look at any performance motorcycle or lighter formula car) that the rotors are drilled like Swiss cheese. While the issues of stress risers and brake pad wear are still present, drilling is used to reduce the mass of the parts in spite of these concerns. Remember – nothing comes for free. If these teams switched to non-drilled rotors, they would see lower operating temperatures and longer brake pad life – at the expense of higher weight. It’s all about trade-offs.
so should i go with slotted or blank? I read what you wrote but does anyone think that because i am hard on my brakes in the highway at high speeds I should consider the slotted.
Slotted is really just to reduce the chance of Glazing the pads. and unless you are consistantly Riding the brakes then you wont need to worry about that. Like I said For 99% of applications Blanks are the way to go.
Glazing is when the resins in the pad (Which bind every thing together) solidify on the face of the pads (ushually Due to grossly overheating the pads, or by riding the brakes and overheating them). This glazed surface is hard and slick, and will not give the same coefficient of friction as an unglazed or new pad = Less brake power.
there not point to blanks.. just keep the oem ones.. listen to what u want.. i love mies.. no problem with pads.. get what makes feel happy.. no problems here..
the stock oem over heat and I am a testament to that. I use the highway a lot and at high speeds it will not respond like my dad's bmw. I want brakes that will respond. Like I said before better safe than sorry.
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And you dare compare your dad's BMW to your Civic??? Originally Posted by civicfreak84
the stock oem over heat and I am a testament to that. I use the highway a lot and at high speeds it will not respond like my dad's bmw. I want brakes that will respond. Like I said before better safe than sorry.
But I agree that the stock brakes are kinda unresponsive. I should be upgrading to ProStop soon.
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there not point to blanks.. just keep the oem ones.. listen to what u want.. i love mies.. no problem with pads.. get what makes feel happy.. no problems here.. Yes there is a point to getting Brembo Blanks. Better meterials and Better internal Venting = rotors being able to withsand higher heat, and beaing able to desipate more heat.
I would have to say slotted. The solid disks will overheat when driving hard, there is no doubt about that. You need to be comparing slotted to drilled, or what some think are the ultimate slotted/drilled. If you think about it, when you drill the rotor, you are taking away not only friction surface, but structurally deteriorating the rotor making them weaker and more prone to cracking. With slotted, you still get adiquate cooling and you still have that core material untouched on the rotor.
but you cannot resurface slotted.. i got drilled brembos.. u guys say what u want .. but i feel that they are great and almost had them for a year and half.. i resurface once and still alot better than oem..
i guess i feel if u cannot resurface them is not worth it. i guess go with blanks or if you would like to buy new pads more often then cool.. i telling u guys there nothin wrong with brembo drilled. i wish i could prove to you guys..
Just curious, but who told you that you cant get Slotted rotors Resurfaced?
Two good friends that are mechanics that I've knowm for a long time. The first time i got them, I got shitty pads.. Just like two months ago i went to friends shop and got them resurface done. The only reson i done this becasue he has a car that has brembos cross drilles rotors and has done this to his own car. He also told me that does this for a alot for his customers. I just wanted something better than stock and also be able to use them for a while with out worrying. I never had a complaint with mines.
Well gentlemen I ordered my brembo blanks and axxis ultimate pads yesterday. Should be here by friday.
What do you guys think about the combo?
I am so excited. Finally good braking!!!!
What do you guys think about the combo?
I am so excited. Finally good braking!!!!
Oh everything plus shipping came out to....126 and change. I got the ups ground shipping. I was in between that shipping and 3 day. now I wish I would've gotten 3 day it would've bumped up the price to 152
pretty good choice!!! slotted don't run cooler than blanks...they let gas pads go by, and since the new pads generation don't gas as much as before they're good for looks mainly...blanks top choice....you'll love your ultimates
they come in on friday. so mad that I didn't get it in faster shipping!
