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Old May 31, 2004
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Hawk or Axxis ultimates brake pads?

I have narrowed it down too these 2 brake pads, hawk hps or axxis ultimates, but I am not sure which to get. I have ebc greenstuff right now and arent really happy with them. They fade too quick, the dust doesnt bother me, but they arent really rotor friendly. Now which of these 2 do you all recomend. With my braking, I am looking for little fade, great stopping power, but I also get my brakes pretty hot. This will be for street use only. I guess I am hard on my brakes.
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which one has a higher temp? I heard hawk is 800, but what is axxis?
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Axxis are good for about 1000, maybe more. I have them on my car right now. They bite HARD and don't give up, my only beef with them is they're dusty, but I don't care too much about that.
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IM hard on my brakes too I guess, plus heavy rims, but the AEM's kinda suck...But, Im thinking about going to the AEM big brake kit for a coupe hundred dollars. LOL

I was going to go Axxis originally but needed brakes ASAP and they were on back order...
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are you sure its the pads that are fading, or are you boiling the brake fliud?? becasue the EBC green stuff is suppose to be good untill over 1000 DEG.
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it just seems like they went fast. Also my steering wheel vibrates so much when I go to stop from like 60mph.
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Hey, do any parts stores carry ATE superblue brake fluid like autozone, oriellys, napa, pepboys etc...
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when you say Went fast, do you mean that they wore out quickly?

Brake fade is when you are using the brakes a lot and as they get hot (Really hot with High performance pads) they lose their friction and you get little to no stopping power out of them. Pedal feel should remain the same, but you need to press harder to get the same amount of stopping power. Boiling the brake fluid is a different kind of fade. Thats when the pedal starts to feel like a sponge, and you get Less braking power due to the creation of Air pockets from the fluid boiling. Pad Fade can be dealtwith pretty easily. just brake less, untill the pads./rotors have cooled down enough to work again. Boiling the brake fluid requres you to Blead the lines to clear the air from the brake system...

The easiest way to get ATE SuperBlue/type 200 is from the internet...

Heres where I got mine You'll only need to get 1 Can but pick up 2 just in case. on $14.00 a Liter.
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I got it from Rosenthal Mazda...
$9.95 a liter for Superblue
http://www.finishlineperformance.com...tion&key=B1022
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Old Jun 3, 2004
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Well, I ordered hawk pads on tuesday and recieved them yesterday. So I will be attempting to put them on sometime within the next week or so. Good luck to me?
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Now I kinda wish I got axxis pads.
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Old Jun 7, 2004
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Anyone know the exact temp for hawk pads?
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I have Hawk HPS....awesome.....i think they are like 700 deg. pad
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I would go with HP+, they are great!
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HP+ are good pads, but for most people unnessisary (just like all the 1000 DEg pads..)

the HPS is a good street pad. The HP+ are designed for Street and Light Track, more then what most people need.
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o i thought we were talking about auto x here or road race. I always tell people that hps pads are best for regular use.


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so are the HPS good? I have them now, but do they have a good bite, like greenstuff and other pads.
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I think the only thing you'll be losing is a bit of Temp resistance. The HPS is good to around 800 Deg or so..
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what is the max temp for the axxis ultimate? are they good for hard braking and autocross and if you have a brembo blank combo will they be hard on those brembos or will i be fine?
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hey zzyzx, how hot do we usually get our brakes?
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how much do axiss pads run? also how long do the stock ones last for normal use? waht does it take to change the pads or possibly rotors?
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check the DIY section for the installation. Axxis pads, try www.importrp.com
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Originally Posted by runner1738
how much do axiss pads run? also how long do the stock ones last for normal use? waht does it take to change the pads or possibly rotors?

It is not hard to do. I have been online(7thgencivic) reading about it for about two weeks now. I have jacked up my car and taken the caliper and rotor apart to have an idea what is going on. It is pretty easy and you should've have a problem. Look at Grey's or Boiler's DIYS and you will be fine.
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I will be doing it this sunday, I will let you know how it goes.
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I will do it tomorrow. So I guess we will have two commentaries by Monday.
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what are good rotors to go along with these pads or what else is good to upgrade the brakes if your going to upgrade all parts of them?
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brembo blanks
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Axxis ultimates are good to around 1000 Deg. and "normal" street drivng brake temps are easily in the sub 500 Deg range, probably closer to 200 to 300.
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so Zzyzx the ultimates are really good?
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They are a good street/track pad. question is, do you need a 1000 Deg Pad? Because High temp pads arn't exactly known for being rotor friendly.
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