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I know on an earlier thread people were saying that AEM big brake kit doesnt really stop because it helps with heat and the heat doesn't build up that much to actually work or something, so what would be an improvement over the stock front brakes? even though i know it would be good to do a rear drum to disc conversion but that is also more complicated.

 
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I don't remember exactly, just that brakes that stop better are noisier than stock. I think ceramic ones like AEM provide a mix of performance and sound.

 
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AEm claims that it will help stop the car 33 percent earlier but then people but then some were saying o it doesnt really help at all, and others who had it said it improved a lot

 
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I just got drilled brembo rotors and i think axis pads and they work great. My breaks dont overheat and i hav noticed significant improvement in braking.

 
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Where did you pick those up at?

 
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getting pads and rotor will help, i dont' suggest drilled since they have been know to help crack the rotor when under massive stress...

something else that will help is a better master cylinder and bigger brakes and tires... so far with my parada spec 2 tires and stock brakes and AEM pads... my car stops where i want it to stop... i have see that there is really no need for a big brake kit... your cars is only as good as ur tires, pads, and master cylinder... i think one of the biggest things that will help a car is to get a ABS brakes upgrade... that alone will be a better upgrade that tires and pads...

I am really getting mad... every one and their grandma wants the rear disc brake conversion... every one asks questions on what is needed and what not.... and they still don't do it... dam...

 
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My mechanic had some in his shop so he just popped em on when i had my 30000 mile check up. U can find them pretty much anywhere, ask ur local import mechanic and he will prob hav some.

 
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yea I just looked up brembos and they are 1295 for our car, expensive but probaly well worth it.

 
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um i got my rotors for like $165, i think ur looking at a whole replacement brake system, with rotors calipers, and everything

 
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http://www.brembo.com/applist/Brembo...ice%20List.pdf
brembo brakes for a 2001+ civic ex are $1295.00, either drilled or slotted, which is better? which to me is expensive, but since it is a company like brembo, they are probaly worth it

 
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If u go to page 10 of that link it shows what ur gettin, new pads, new rotors, new 4 piston calipers, stainless steel braided brake lines, all for $1295.

What i was saying was that i got just the rotors for $165

 
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o damn that is cheap if it works better, but which is better slotted or drilled?

 
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blanks are better

 
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what are blanks?

 
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Blanks are basically what u hav on ur car now, they r just the rotor and they arent slotted or drilled. I mean its up to u what u wanna get. I just got drilled because that what my mechanic recommended. You can get either one of the three. They will all help in combination with new pads.

 
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from what i know cross drilled is supposed to help dissapate the heat caused under braking, and allow gasses a place to stay. Ive read that newer rotors do not create the same gasses as they did in the past and that drilling is more for looks than performance. Slotted is more of a race set-up, where the slots shaves pieces of the pad in order to always have a fresh pad to stop with.
hope that helps

 
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arnt they the same company that claims that there V2 intake performs better then the old one on our cars, when it clearly doesn't. its all marketing.


Better brakes, the best setup depends on what you want form the brakes. Max performance? how hot do you get the brake system? ect ect... What do you intend to do with the car and we can make some recomendations.

 
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yes they are, but then why are companies allowed to just make outragous calims, i thought there were laws against that kind of stuff. Eventually I will be looking for something that allows me to stop on a dime so to speak, sometimes if im going down a canyon road and going fast and turning tight and stuff the stock brakes dont seem to do it, just seems on and off and so forth. that is what my car is mostly used for spirited driving i guess you could say, i might try auto cross, and i know this would put me in a certain class and so forth. i mean there are aem brakes, ss brakes, brembo, which are good and which are bad?

 
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for street/ Canyon running I recomend 3 things

1. good pads (From least heat resistant to most). AEM(Nissin), Hawk HP+, Hawk Black, Axxis Ultimate, Hawk Blue, EBC greenstuff, Porterfield R4-S, Ebc Redstuff, Hawk HT-10, Porterfield R4. For the street I wouldnt go past EBC Redstuff. the HT-10 and R4 are Full Race compound pads.

2. High quality Non Drilled/slotted rotor. Brembo blank is a good example. (why not drilled or slotted??? because any time you remove metal form the rotor you increace the operating temp of the brakig system, Less mass = more heat)

3. High temp brake fluid. DOT4 or DOT5.1 fluid (Castrol LMA or ATE super Blue/Typ 200 would be good. ATE would be the better of the two.) avoid DOT5 fluids.


as far as claiming stuff like that, all a company needs is one instance where it happened and they can legally claim it. so in this case I would guess that AEM fryed the hell out of the brakes (track use) with stock pads to the point of brake fade and then compaired the two, obviously the larger rotor would have a lower operating temp and thus brake better. Now with normal driving you would never get the brakes to such tempretures, so the test is really moot as far as we are concerned. But then Marketing gets to claim a 33% increace in braking... With out mentioning the peramiters of the test.