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Well it only happens when the car hasn't warmed up yet. When it shifts from second to third, it revs up about 500rpms and feels like the car is in neutral. Also when I first cold start the car it sounds like a supercharger Is there anything I can do? I already change the fluid every 10k with honda atf and I even have a small tranny cooler. I can't believe this is happening after how much i treat the car like a baby.

ps. if i got nothing to lose, maybe i should put some lubecontrol in the tranny oil when i change it again?

 
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Didnt your head just get replaced also? Maybe it's time for you to explore other options, like 5 speed.

 
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yea. i can't understand what happened. i even drive the car differently like make sure i don't let go of the gas between shifts and i always very slowly press the gas below 20mph so it downshifts smoothly. oh and when it shifts from reverse to drive i always wait the 1-2 secs for it to engage the gear before pressing the gas. what did i do wrong? i've floored the car maybe 10x since i've owned the car in 4 years and even then i've never even touched redline once.

 
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I personally am not a fan of Honda Automatic trans. My friend had a sweet 97 prelude sh with the h22A but it was in the shop like 3 times a year with tranny problems. I look at auto trannys like i do port and polishing the head out of every 10, 5 of them are excellent 3 of them are decent and 2 are trash.

 
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Its not you Gearbox, its the tranny, so dont blame yourself, everyone knows that the 7thgen trannies is a pos.

 
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i know but i always thought after everything i did it would last at least 100k. Also does anyone know if the 04-05 tranny has improved or are they the same? and how long do i have before the car isn't able to drive anymore. i'm assuming these are the beginning stages.

 
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k20a3 swap? ;PPP

 
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I think going crazy with changing the tranny fluid isn't the best idea either. My Maxima beater has 234k miles on it and my friend (who I bought the car from and had it since it was brand new) said he never changed the tranny fluid..... the tranny has never been rebuilt or anything in the 234k miles (no typo... the car has 234k miles right and I still drive it everyday).

Couple months ago I decided to drain out some of the old fluid (cuz it was dark) and top it off with some new ATF.... well, after I did that the tranny started slipping from 2nd to 3rd.

I read somewhere that doing constant tranny flushes isn't a good idea cuz it adds unnecessary lubrication constantly which eventually causes slippage..... but this could only be for old *** cars like my Maxima. When the slippage began I started searching FAQs about this and its what I gathered about AT trannies.

However, I heard that you can drive for a long time with the tranny slipping..... ever since mine started slipping I wait for it to kinda get stuck in that certain RPM range where I know it should go into the next gear but it doesn't..... at that moment I push the gas down quickly and it forces the car to go into the next gear. I used to do what you did and ease off the gas pedal right when it's about to change gears but I came to the conclusion that it made the trans slip even worse...

 
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i dont have that kind of money for k20 lol.

thanks for the info. i'll remember for when it gets worse. the last guy here with a broken tranny says the mechanic recommended fluid should be changed every oil change and a cooler is a must. i still think this is due to the faulty design of the tranny and not any kind of maintenance. older hondas could go forever on the same fluid.

 
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blah ... k20a3's are relatively cheap... you can probably do a k20a3 swap into an auto for around $4k installed

 
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i know but then i'll need a tranny too and don't know if anyone has done that. i really can't spend more than $1-2k.

 
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how many miles are on your car, cause i have almost 20,000 and i dont want this happening to mine anytime soon, i was gonna install a tranny cooler over the summer but if it didnt do anything for your's i guess there is no point than right?

 
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i have roughly 45k miles.i changed fluid at 18k and then every 10k with honda atf. trans cooler unfortunately wasn't installed until 20k miles so the damage might have already been done. from what i've heard from mechanics regarding broken civic trans, the design pretty much NEEDS a cooler and fluid change every 3-5k miles for the tranny to work properly. which is bs thanks honda for a junk design.

 
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this is just another case of bad things happening to good people. im sorry man hope ur tranny problems work out 4 ya

 
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damnit Steve didn't you learn anything from my experience?

and in additon


remember American Honda's number >>>>>>>> 1-800-999-1009


p.s. sight this from Tinman if they feed you garbage

 
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do you know what that updated part is, because I also plan on ordering the TCI master overhaul kit and dont know if it includes the part.

 
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Why don't you go down to Honda and see if they can help you out with the trans repair.... maybe go 50/50 with you. If you did all your ATF flushes at Honda and have receipts for them maybe they'll work with you even if you're out of warrenty..

 
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this is normal operation. Mine does it all the time when I first start driving it when the engine is cold. shifts fine from 1st to 2nd, but 2nd to third, right when it shifts, it revs up about 500-1000 RPM then falls into third, but once warm, it doesnt happen. Once of my teachers at school was a honda tech for about 12 years and said it happens on all honda trannies. a few days ago some of my friends noticed it when we went to lunch and thought my tranny was slipping, but the teacher confirmed it is normal. Now if it does it even after the car is at operating temp, then you have a problem. otherwise your tranny is still fine.

 
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heh...my rebuilt does that too...I think....I dunno

Gearbox: as for the updated part, Honda never did tell me but for all intesive purposes What I will do tomorrow is call Howard Engineering (they did my rebuild) and see if they can give me info, I also need to find out about my hopefully "inline" tranny filter.....

 
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thanks. i would also like to know about that filter and how it was installed if possible. streetglower, if that slipping when cold is normal, why has it never happened in the last 4 years. my moms old 92 accord never slips when cold either. hustle, i did get many of my fluid changes done at honda dealer here but if you read my other post, you would know i'm never going back there. i think there is another dealer about 2 hrs away so if need be i will call corporate honda and see how much they will pay if i have it done at another dealer. i already know there is a factory defect and its only a matter of time. shroomster thanks for the info i will use it if things get worse.

 
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I really have no idea why it didnt do it the past 4 years. All I know is mine does it and at first I thought the same thing, but after talking with a few teachers, I have learned it is normal with honda. Once teacher said if the clutches were slipping, it would do it all the time, but if its only when the engine is cold, its normal. it seems like its only from 2nd to third.

 
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mine does it with the car warm but its less noticable only a few hundred rpm so maybe i'm fine for a while.

 
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ha i'm an idiot, Gearbox. Right on my Warranty paper it has a whole spiel at the bottom about how an inline fitler was installed with this tranny and blah blah blah..... i talked to Dave @ Howard Engineering and he said 1. in-line tranny cooler will not void warranty of this tranny and 2. filter is purchased through their parts department

 
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Same thing was happening to my tranny and it blew the next day

so expect som major problems very soon

 
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yay thanks! lol

 
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damn man im sorry to hear that, i just hit 18000 miles today.....i hope i dont have any problems any time soon.....

 
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in this history of my time on this forum, blown auto trannies are a rather common, yet ridiculously expensive problem.

 
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well its a common problem because the tranny has a factory defect like posted above. poor clutch pack carrier. there should have been a recall not a coverup.

 
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let's see ... now how did that quote go ...

"Take the number
of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the
probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the
average out-of-court settlement, C. A times
B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost
of a recall, we don't do one."

 
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Yep! That's it.

Hey, did you ever find a use for those projectors?