Warrenty law that Save's your a$$
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Warrenty law that Save's your a$$ Ok you have to read this, first i must say to moderators make this one sticky.
"we dont cover that under warrenty cuz your cars been modifyed" BULLSHIT! ! !
If your tired of the dealership giving your **** about the modifacations done to your ride and not standing by there warrenty then you need to read this link and print it out to shuve it in there face.
Congress wrote a law in 1975 that states Legally , a vehical manufacture cannot void the warrenty on a vehicle due to an aftermarket part unless they can prove that the after market part caused oR contributed to the failer in the vehical ( per the MAGUSON MOSS WARANTY ACT)
here is the code (15 U.S.C 2302(c)) .For best results, consider wrking with performance-oriented dealerships with a proven history of wrking with customers. if your vehicale manufacture fails to honor emaissions/warranty claims, contact the EPA at (202) 260-2080 or.
If federal warrenty protection is denied, contact the ftc at (202) 326-3128
there are also LAWERS who will wrk for free for you to get the needed repairs done to your car THATS RIGHT FOR FREE.......
A concumer rights are protected by requiring the manufacter/warrantor to pay for all fees for a successful case
every here this one....
"COUND NOT DUPLICAT CUSTOMERS CONCERN" since the "repair" is not officially recognized by the manufacture, the dealership either writes " could not duplicate" or perhaps " vehicale operating as designed" and send the customer on his way...
READ UP ON YOUR RIGHTS ! ! ! ! DONT LET THEM FU#$ YOU LIKE THERE TRYING TO DO TO ME.
As of now the dealer wont warrenty my AC cuz i have NOS...How does NOS FU#$ up your ac clutch...he said that i must have hit a high RPM when i hit the NOS and broke the ac clutch, Just because you see NOS int he car doesnt mean i use it all the time Besides...MR dumb *** manager. havnt you heard of a little thing called a revlimitor....this prevents the car from exceeding the breaking point of the motor and all its parts...so if i didnt damge the motot then i couldnt have damaged the ac motor or its clucth...Infact they wouldnt even wrking on the damn thing cuz the saw NOS LINES....he didnt see the bottle cuz it was in my garage where its been for months ....
heres the linky......USE IT !
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm
"we dont cover that under warrenty cuz your cars been modifyed" BULLSHIT! ! !
If your tired of the dealership giving your **** about the modifacations done to your ride and not standing by there warrenty then you need to read this link and print it out to shuve it in there face.
Congress wrote a law in 1975 that states Legally , a vehical manufacture cannot void the warrenty on a vehicle due to an aftermarket part unless they can prove that the after market part caused oR contributed to the failer in the vehical ( per the MAGUSON MOSS WARANTY ACT)
here is the code (15 U.S.C 2302(c)) .For best results, consider wrking with performance-oriented dealerships with a proven history of wrking with customers. if your vehicale manufacture fails to honor emaissions/warranty claims, contact the EPA at (202) 260-2080 or. If federal warrenty protection is denied, contact the ftc at (202) 326-3128
there are also LAWERS who will wrk for free for you to get the needed repairs done to your car THATS RIGHT FOR FREE.......
A concumer rights are protected by requiring the manufacter/warrantor to pay for all fees for a successful case
every here this one....
"COUND NOT DUPLICAT CUSTOMERS CONCERN" since the "repair" is not officially recognized by the manufacture, the dealership either writes " could not duplicate" or perhaps " vehicale operating as designed" and send the customer on his way...
READ UP ON YOUR RIGHTS ! ! ! ! DONT LET THEM FU#$ YOU LIKE THERE TRYING TO DO TO ME.
As of now the dealer wont warrenty my AC cuz i have NOS...How does NOS FU#$ up your ac clutch...he said that i must have hit a high RPM when i hit the NOS and broke the ac clutch, Just because you see NOS int he car doesnt mean i use it all the time Besides...MR dumb *** manager. havnt you heard of a little thing called a revlimitor....this prevents the car from exceeding the breaking point of the motor and all its parts...so if i didnt damge the motot then i couldnt have damaged the ac motor or its clucth...Infact they wouldnt even wrking on the damn thing cuz the saw NOS LINES....he didnt see the bottle cuz it was in my garage where its been for months ....
heres the linky......USE IT !
http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/magnusonmoss.htm
Last edited by KaZeLL; May 23, 2003 at 06:48 PM.
Originally posted by Vytas
Dealers will f**k you anyway, that law will not help! And that is stupid to go to the dealership with NOS installed. Be wise!!!
Dealers will f**k you anyway, that law will not help! And that is stupid to go to the dealership with NOS installed. Be wise!!!
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Rep Power: 321 Ok since my last post i have called american honda and made my complaint...they gave me a referial code and they said that they would call community honda and check the sh@! out...they also said that the dealers are independently owned and they cannot make them do anything..well i shoved this federal law in there face...and this is what i got ...i called community honda on tuesday and ask for the district manager ...which they thought i would never do...they said he was at lunch and he would call back....1 hr went by and they called back....and said he doesnt call customers...I said give me his number and I'll call him then...they then said well......out of good faith and they would fix what was wrong with car THIS ONE TIME but i would have to pay 78 bucks for labor....I M NOT PAYING SH$# ....I WAS THINKING ...
but wait what maid them change their mind..befor they wouldnt even touch my car now all of a sudden their ok with it.....they tryed to tell me that the district manager approved for they wrk to be done on my car ....so we hung up.....well that day i took my car over to Honda World for service...i still left the NOS lines in for all to to see....and they had no problem wiht it...that was so fu@# cool....( remeber kiddy's HONDA WORLD OFF THE 605 EXIT FLORANCE) AND MAKE A LEFT..).American Honda call THAT SAME DAY and said that communty honda was going to repair my car under warrenty and that they had the part in and when ever i was ready to come on in and they would fix it UNDER WARRENTY....what do you think about that!!!!!! well it was to late my car was already at HONDA WORLD and they were already fixing all the things that was wrong with it with out the hassel and bitching of the mods...NOW THAT SERVICE.... they didnt even fix the AC unit ...the had to special order the part so i have to wait ...i know community has the part but there is now way I am ever going back there sine they treat me like a person at honda world and not some 13 yr old kid....when I'm almost 30....cant help it if i look young and act like it....
so to Alex053, the one who said it was stupid to go to the dealer with NOS and they always fuc$ you ....well they law is the law maybe you should try useing it to your advantage ....more time in school and learn about your rights will get you alot further then just comments about the thing u nothing about....it looks like I FU#@ them ....huh
sorry for the type-o's .....
but wait what maid them change their mind..befor they wouldnt even touch my car now all of a sudden their ok with it.....they tryed to tell me that the district manager approved for they wrk to be done on my car ....so we hung up.....well that day i took my car over to Honda World for service...i still left the NOS lines in for all to to see....and they had no problem wiht it...that was so fu@# cool....( remeber kiddy's HONDA WORLD OFF THE 605 EXIT FLORANCE) AND MAKE A LEFT..).American Honda call THAT SAME DAY and said that communty honda was going to repair my car under warrenty and that they had the part in and when ever i was ready to come on in and they would fix it UNDER WARRENTY....what do you think about that!!!!!! well it was to late my car was already at HONDA WORLD and they were already fixing all the things that was wrong with it with out the hassel and bitching of the mods...NOW THAT SERVICE.... they didnt even fix the AC unit ...the had to special order the part so i have to wait ...i know community has the part but there is now way I am ever going back there sine they treat me like a person at honda world and not some 13 yr old kid....when I'm almost 30....cant help it if i look young and act like it....
so to Alex053, the one who said it was stupid to go to the dealer with NOS and they always fuc$ you ....well they law is the law maybe you should try useing it to your advantage ....more time in school and learn about your rights will get you alot further then just comments about the thing u nothing about....it looks like I FU#@ them ....huh
sorry for the type-o's .....
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Rep Power: 321 ok took my car in for the last of my repairs, i got the ac wrking now, i must say that this law is the **** when it comes to modifing your car, not to mention the very helpful cooperations from honda wrld...
dont take it to any other dealer if you live int he whittier area, if you go there make sure to ask for ISRIAL he's cool...tell him James witht eh black 2k1 civic with the broken ac sent you...hill help you out for sure ...
Hope this helped you Lates..
dont take it to any other dealer if you live int he whittier area, if you go there make sure to ask for ISRIAL he's cool...tell him James witht eh black 2k1 civic with the broken ac sent you...hill help you out for sure ...
Hope this helped you Lates..
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Kazzell you f#$@ them tite I also purchased my civic @ community H
w/ some chick ?? well anyway I can't remember her name
Thanks for the info I kind of had the feeling CH where nothing but *******s when it comes to
servicing your car. Just to think I did not buy the nos kit for that same reason I thought
it will void the warranty once installed. I'm sure also depends what went wrong with your car
that they are able to fix
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Rep Power: 0 Well, that's all fine and dandy for you and I am happy for you. However, the dealer can simply say that they won't cover it under warranty and tell you to get the f out!
Yea, there is a law but simply throwing it in their face isn't going to always work. They will still tell you to go get f-ed. Then, you have to pursue action which most people will not do.
In the end, it's best to simply return the car to stock if the problem could even be remotely related to one's mods. EVen if they couldn't be associated, it's just the smart thing to do.
Yea, there is a law but simply throwing it in their face isn't going to always work. They will still tell you to go get f-ed. Then, you have to pursue action which most people will not do.
In the end, it's best to simply return the car to stock if the problem could even be remotely related to one's mods. EVen if they couldn't be associated, it's just the smart thing to do.
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by KaZeLL
ok took my car in for the last of my repairs, i got the ac wrking now, i must say that this law is the **** when it comes to modifing your car, not to mention the very helpful cooperations from honda wrld...
dont take it to any other dealer if you live int he whittier area, if you go there make sure to ask for ISRIAL he's cool...tell him James witht eh black 2k1 civic with the broken ac sent you...hill help you out for sure ...
Hope this helped you Lates..
ok took my car in for the last of my repairs, i got the ac wrking now, i must say that this law is the **** when it comes to modifing your car, not to mention the very helpful cooperations from honda wrld...
dont take it to any other dealer if you live int he whittier area, if you go there make sure to ask for ISRIAL he's cool...tell him James witht eh black 2k1 civic with the broken ac sent you...hill help you out for sure ...
Hope this helped you Lates..
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Rep Power: 0 the dealer is trying to **** me too! My low beams won't turn on but high beams, parking lights, fog, and turn signals still work. The low beam + isn't getting power (AKA SHORTED OUT SOMEPLACE) so i take it to the dealer and they say "umm we won't be able to cover this under the $1200 service contract you paid for because you have extensive rewiring of your car..." so i asked the dumb *** service manager to show me my "extensive wiring" he tells me the techs are too busy and we'll get in the way. so i keep arguing with him until he takes me back. He asks one of the techs to show me the rewiring. the tech says "he doesn't have anything rewired, just a few added. " so he shows me the wiring for my alarm and gauge pod. I tell him that federal law says that unless he can prove that an aftermarket part caused the problem, they have to fix it under warranty. his tech says "im not saying that the wiring caused the problem. i told him that then he has to fix it and he refused. so here i am printing off this law to give him paper cuts in his ***... im headed back to the dealership for round 2 tomorrow. ANyone have any suggestions???
** yourinmyw0rld is my MASTER. so to bad guys!!!
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Rep Power: 333 HONDA WORLD IN DOWNEY ALSO F-ED ME OVER WHEN I BOUGHT MY CAR!!!!!!!!!!
YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE W/PROBS WITH THEM!!!!
SOMEONE FROM HONDA DOWNEY DROVE MY CAR AND PUT LIKE OVER 200 MILES ON IT WHEN IT WAS LIKE BRAND NEW WITH ONLY 600 MILES ON IT DURING THE BREAK-IN PERIOD.
I WAS SO PISSED THAT SOMEONE TOOK MY CAR FOR A JOYRIDE.
MY CAR WAS THERE TO HAVE A PROBLEM FIXED, NOT FOR SOME AHOLE WORKING THERE TO STEAL MY CAR OUT FOR A RIDE.
WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY DID??????
I AM SO MAD.
sorry for typing in all caps, but yeah, I'm really mad >>> that's why!!!!!!!!!
I had written about all the ways that Hondaworld in downey ****ed me over, and I thought u guys would have paid attention and not went there!!!!!!!!
Their service sucks!!!!!!!
Them joyriding my car is only ONe of many, many illegal crap they have done to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ANGRY NOW.
I could not/did not have any more time to waste with them and did not bother to press charges, etc.
i don't know.
i'm just mad still....
YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY ONE W/PROBS WITH THEM!!!!
SOMEONE FROM HONDA DOWNEY DROVE MY CAR AND PUT LIKE OVER 200 MILES ON IT WHEN IT WAS LIKE BRAND NEW WITH ONLY 600 MILES ON IT DURING THE BREAK-IN PERIOD.
I WAS SO PISSED THAT SOMEONE TOOK MY CAR FOR A JOYRIDE.
MY CAR WAS THERE TO HAVE A PROBLEM FIXED, NOT FOR SOME AHOLE WORKING THERE TO STEAL MY CAR OUT FOR A RIDE.
WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY DID??????
I AM SO MAD.
sorry for typing in all caps, but yeah, I'm really mad >>> that's why!!!!!!!!!
I had written about all the ways that Hondaworld in downey ****ed me over, and I thought u guys would have paid attention and not went there!!!!!!!!
Their service sucks!!!!!!!
Them joyriding my car is only ONe of many, many illegal crap they have done to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ANGRY NOW.
I could not/did not have any more time to waste with them and did not bother to press charges, etc.
i don't know.
i'm just mad still....
** yourinmyw0rld is my MASTER. so to bad guys!!!
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Rep Power: 333 also, the paint was peeling off the bumper (a DAMN DEFECT THAT EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT) when my car was only a few weeks old.
They denied it.
I raised hell.
The service manager finally fixed it, but he was sO DAMN RUDE AND HUNG UP ON ME.
grrrrrrrrrrrrr
They denied it.
I raised hell.
The service manager finally fixed it, but he was sO DAMN RUDE AND HUNG UP ON ME.
grrrrrrrrrrrrr
whew 
whew honda has such great customer service ** yourinmyw0rld is my MASTER. so to bad guys!!!
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Rep Power: 333 Yes, I know you are being sarcastic about the customer service,
but it hella suxxxx!!!
I'm still steaming mad!!!!!
My car is a wreck thanx to them.
Fock them!!!
but it hella suxxxx!!!
I'm still steaming mad!!!!!
My car is a wreck thanx to them.
Fock them!!!
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Rep Power: 0 I went to the dealer and i told them that my car pops out of 2nd somtimes and they said we cant fix ure tranny because their are 2 many mods , i had header intake exhaust and no catalyic convertor, can they do that, can i still go back and tell them i want it fixed for free u think?
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Rep Power: 290 you can also fing info on the mang. moss. ruling at sema's web site. not just in accordaence with that law and the ruling that go with it. a man or dealer cnt void a warrenty due to an aftermarket part being installed unless the part caused the faliure .... and they have to prove it. if they could then only oem honda parts could ever be used on a car under warr. which would cause a monopoly(sp). if you look in you warrenty info book that cam with the car its says the same thing in the honda book. so if a dealer tells you to go rub one off... then you contact american honda and the general manager of the dealership.......NOT PUT THE CAR BACK TO STOCK!!!!!!!!!!!!! doing that would only hurt the whole point.... dealers think that they can get away with that sort of **** if people ALWAYS called em on it it would eventualy die out........
f--k im tired of typing now lol
f--k im tired of typing now lol
Originally posted by Mbow
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In the end, it's best to simply return the car to stock if the problem could even be remotely related to one's mods. EVen if they couldn't be associated, it's just the smart thing to do. [/B]
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In the end, it's best to simply return the car to stock if the problem could even be remotely related to one's mods. EVen if they couldn't be associated, it's just the smart thing to do. [/B]
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Rep Power: 0 wow. what a great time for me to read this i was just thinking about not modding bcuz my service center is a bunch of as$holes (bronx honda).... now on to figuring out which CAI and exhaust to get.
my right blinker is messed up.... it comes on and off .. and it's messing up with the heat/ac unit too.... it cuts it on and off when it blinks... but it goes on when it's not suppose to. They said that it was due to an aftermarket part to my car... but i have an alarm system.. so could they say it was that?.... b/c i know for a fact it wasn't the alarm system that's messing it up b/c it was happening b4 i got it. .... Should i go back there with this law and shove it in their face?
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Rep Power: 359 My third gear grinds all the time now, no matter what, so I'm taking it in and supposedly I'll be without a car for 2-3 days. That is under the warranty right?
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Rep Power: 0 i also had an electrical problem with my headlights not working. my wiring harness burnt up and so did the headlight swtich. i took it in and they said my alarm caused the prob. it didn't cause the prob cuz it wasn't hooked up to the headlights...has to pay 1000 for a new wiring harness with labor..
no my car is in the shop cuz it has a bad 3rd gear synchro and bent shift fork. waiting to see if my extended honda care warranty will cover this...**** extended warrenties on cars! they are bullshit!
no my car is in the shop cuz it has a bad 3rd gear synchro and bent shift fork. waiting to see if my extended honda care warranty will cover this...**** extended warrenties on cars! they are bullshit! 
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Rep Power: 0 Different kind of situation, but I'm wondering if anyone's ever heard of anything like this before...
I leased my car because of this insanely good deal they had on a sticker on the last '02 si left on the lot. They called me back about a week later and told me that they made a mistake and that my payments were gonna go up $38 a month. After listening to him talk for awhile I basically told him to go f*** himself, so he brought it down to $25, and then to $8 (keep in mind, the contract is already signed) and after he realized that just because i'm a first-time buyer, I'm not necessarily a moron and I knew I had the upper hand, he started BEGGING me to pay an extra $8 a month.
I ended up offering him the $8 a month in exchange for free oil changes for the 4 years, but then when he called me back to say I needed to come down and sign a new contract, I said forget it.
I don't think he would've ever called me in the first place if I was a 50 year old guy who's bought lots of cars before.
I leased my car because of this insanely good deal they had on a sticker on the last '02 si left on the lot. They called me back about a week later and told me that they made a mistake and that my payments were gonna go up $38 a month. After listening to him talk for awhile I basically told him to go f*** himself, so he brought it down to $25, and then to $8 (keep in mind, the contract is already signed) and after he realized that just because i'm a first-time buyer, I'm not necessarily a moron and I knew I had the upper hand, he started BEGGING me to pay an extra $8 a month.
I ended up offering him the $8 a month in exchange for free oil changes for the 4 years, but then when he called me back to say I needed to come down and sign a new contract, I said forget it.
I don't think he would've ever called me in the first place if I was a 50 year old guy who's bought lots of cars before.
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Rep Power: 0 wow,haha bloodzombie if that happened to me i would have payed the extra $38 cuz i wouldnt have know that i have the upper hand.
Anyways, I have a question that involes my tranny. When I drive it in the winter the shifter would start to shake for abit, I asked the dealer and he said it might be the snow rubbing the tires, what do you guys think. Does that law work in canana to?or only in the US?
Anyways, I have a question that involes my tranny. When I drive it in the winter the shifter would start to shake for abit, I asked the dealer and he said it might be the snow rubbing the tires, what do you guys think. Does that law work in canana to?or only in the US?
