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I am seriously annoyed with the stalling problems. Luckly there isn't much traffic in oklahoma, but it's serious safety hazard.
I seriously don't feel safe in the car. There also doesn't seem to be any solid fix for the problem either.
I am not the type of person to complain at the dealer and I don't have the time.

I have only 5500 miles on my 2k1 LX civic.
Would the dealer possibly trade it in for a 2k2 LX civic for free?
I am also considering trading it in for a toyota corolla. If I trade it in, how much do yall think I can get for my car?

Looking for opinions.
Jothen

 
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My 2k1 EX did the same thing, it completely stalled completely while I was turning, it also idled real low and shaked a little, dealer said there wasnt anything wrong and they couldnt fix it unless it was broken.....

 
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I just did that. Traded my Acura EL with un-fixable stalling problem for a Mazda Protege5. Lost about 3.5k (CAD) for the trade but my EL is 14 months old with 30000 kms on it. Basically you have 3 options:

1. Trade it in and take a hit for depreciation. Doesn't matter if you trade it in for another Honda or other make you'll still take a hit.
2. Sell it private then get a new car.
3. File a lemon against Honda and hopefully they'll buy it back.

The options are listed in order of most expensive to cheapest way out...also from easiest to toughest. You have to decide if you have more money or more time.

 
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can you pm me or e-mail me and tell me how to file a lemon with honda, because im getting sick of this car..

 
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Lemon law is different in every state, and I think Firefly lives in Canada.

 
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Hey firefly, nice choice on the PROTEGE5...sweet car!

 
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What trim was your EL? Does that $3.5 k include all the federal/provincial taxes, AC tax, freight and prep charges, options, any extended warranty, and any mods you paid for on the EL?

If it does, then that's not so bad.

 
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Ronin's right. You gotta look up the states lemon law as they're all different. But basically you'll have to find a lawyer, do all the documentations, show Honda that you're attempting to take them to court if they don't buy your car back. Then they might go for a settlement before the court date and buy your car back. In other words...lots of work.

Ronin: My EL was a Touring, no options no extended warrenty. The 3.5k accounts for everything except ferderal and provincial tax. But since I'm trading it in I get a tax break on the P5. I don't have to pay tax on the portion of my trade in value for the new car.

So here it is....

 
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Yea, that tax saving is one good thing about trading in a car to a dealer. But if you add the tax to the $3500 you lost on the EL, that comes out to slightly over $4000 for 14 months of driving... kinda steep.

But I guess if I had the problems you had, I might have done the same thing.

 
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Yeah...it's still steep but it turned out a lot better than I expected. For ppl planning to do this with their car you really need to do a good research before you walk into the dealer. Get the black book value of your car, and arm yourself with the invoice price for the new one. I did just that to minimize my loss. The mileage and body condition of your old car plays a big role here because everything else is still covered under warrenty so these two things are the deciding factor for your buyer. My car has zero scratch and dent, not even swirl marks on the blue paint so that's why I was able to squeeze out a bit more.

Then when you're pricing for the new car show them you have the involve price so they know they can't screw you. But give them a reasonable profit so both sides are happy.

Good luck to all.

 
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I did the same thing because of the stalling. I traded in my Civic.

It is a ashame that a car that looks that good have all these problems.

The stalling thing is deffinitely a safety problem. I almot pi$$$ my pants when my car stalled on me when I was in traffic.

Almost caused a serious accident with another car.

I have heard so many complaints about stalling. Honda doesn't have a clue, or if they do have a clue it would be a world wide recall.

I wonder if this stalling problem has to do with the fuel pump? I was speaking to one honda tech and he informed that it could be due to the fuel pump. He told me to put two and two together.

He didn't elaborate and I didn't try to get it out of him.

Good luck with your car dude. Hey, have you tried to increase your idle? That is adjust your throttle setting. I heard that this might also help.

My Dad is an ASCE certified master mechanic, and he told me that a woman brought her car in with the same exact problem mine was having with the stalling and he adjusted her idle with the throttle setting. He said she came back a month ago and everything seemed fine. No more stalling.

I did not adjust the throttle on mine, just got too tired with all the problems and traded it in.

 
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Update: Okay talked to my parents, and I am trading my civic in for a toyota corolla.
The market seems down right now so cars are really cheap.
Looking at a 2003 corolla right now which is around the same price as the tradein value of my car.

Jothen

 
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a Corollora???

well i guess it's better than stalling civic.

Anyway, just to let you all know, I have the same stalling problem as everyone else and I am really fed up with it. I almost got in a car accident because my car stalled on a road. I seriously think Honda should take some action in to this.

 
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Check this out. May be a recall

Click Here

 
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Not true the way they determine if a recall should be made is they look at how many cars are effected. From there they look at how much it would cost to send out letters and how much it would cost to fix all the cars with problems. From there they look at how much they may lose if they were sued for the problem. They weigh that out and then determine which is a more "financially sound" choice. They don't give a rat's a$$ about the consumer they care about the money and only the money.

 
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If not a recall there should be a TSB somewhere on this problem.

If HONDA did truly care they would issue a recall but, they haven't as of yet. This problem is more than common, along with the bad strut problems it seems everyone has. How there are no recalls on these items is beyond me. They are two very common and possibly dangerous problems!

 
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Like I said it is not cost effective. They figure replacing all the damaged parts will cost more than if a few people sue them. Therefore they will not issue a recall.

 
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I started having that problem yesterday. My best friend is a Honda techician and he told me that they are starting to get many complaints about that. He spoke with Honda Tech Support and they were aware of the problem but did not know what was causing it or how to fix it. He plugged the computer and did not registered any errors. So he is speechless. I just know that somehow my sh#$ty 2k1 will be fixed.

Pablo
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I am now selling my civic

 
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so does anyone have any updates now?