Mechanical Problems/Vehicle Issues and Fix-it Forum If you've got a problem you just can't figure out, a noise you can't diagnose, or a Check Engine Light that won't go away, ask about it here!

D17 Y8 Manifold Swap Whistling Problem

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 25, 2015
  #1  
KillerCam251's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 57
Likes: 3
Rep Power: 142
KillerCam251 has a spectacular aura aboutKillerCam251 has a spectacular aura aboutKillerCam251 has a spectacular aura about
D17 Y8 Manifold Swap Whistling Problem

Ever since I swapped on my Y8 manifold I had this whistling noise start. It is tremendously irritating, it it so freakin loud, sounds like a tea kettle when it boils. Only happens in colder temps when the car has sat for example overnight. After driving and stopping then starting again it won't do it. The belts are new, the alternator is new, the PS pump pulley is good, timing belt set is all new, all the hoses and vacuum port caps are new and in good condition, the manifold gasket is new etc. etc. The noise lasts between 20 seconds to sometimes 1 minute then goes away. Also sometimes it will whistle then will change to a even higher pitch. It will also stop if I press the gas pedal. I tried holding a hose to my ear as a make shift stethoscope and can't pin point it at all, although it does sound like it is coming primarily from the intake/passenger side. Refer to video to hear it.

Reply
Old Mar 25, 2015
  #2  
mikey1's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,499
Likes: 5
Rep Power: 209
mikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of light
Re: D17 Y8 Manifold Swap Whistling Problem

intake air leak,

did you clean the intake surface spotless before installing the new gasket?

torque bolts to spec?
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2015
  #3  
KillerCam251's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 57
Likes: 3
Rep Power: 142
KillerCam251 has a spectacular aura aboutKillerCam251 has a spectacular aura aboutKillerCam251 has a spectacular aura about
Re: D17 Y8 Manifold Swap Whistling Problem

Yea did everything
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2015
  #4  
mikey1's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 2,499
Likes: 5
Rep Power: 209
mikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of lightmikey1 is a glorious beacon of light
Re: D17 Y8 Manifold Swap Whistling Problem

Originally Posted by KillerCam251
Yea did everything
well me thinks you missed something
Reply
Old Mar 25, 2015
  #5  
KillerCam251's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 57
Likes: 3
Rep Power: 142
KillerCam251 has a spectacular aura aboutKillerCam251 has a spectacular aura aboutKillerCam251 has a spectacular aura about
Re: D17 Y8 Manifold Swap Whistling Problem

Lol, exactly I just cant figure out what!
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2015
  #6  
ezone's Avatar
If you think a good mechanic is expensive, try hiring a bad one
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 32,017
Likes: 256
From: Midwest. Aiming about mid-chest
Rep Power: 518
ezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond repute
Re: D17 Y8 Manifold Swap Whistling Problem

Manifold vacuum leak...... Sounds like a reed whistle to me....What could act like a reed? One of the gaskets probably...... ?


Did you check for how well the manifold lines up to the head, and does the gasket fully cover all areas? Any real thin areas of overlap that might leave the gasket unsupported?



Poor seals between injector and manifold?

Use the hose stuck in your ear, go around the areas listening..... Underneath the manifold too. If you get to an actual vacuum leak, it should try to suck your eardrum out LOL

Use needlenose pliers to pinch off rubber vac hoses one at a time, listen for changes?





Get it squealing and remove the oil cap. Any change?

Smoke machine leak test?



The rubber hose you used for the EGR will probably disintegrate pretty quick while the EGR is operating. Exhaust is HOT and should char the hose.
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2015
  #7  
KillerCam251's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 57
Likes: 3
Rep Power: 142
KillerCam251 has a spectacular aura aboutKillerCam251 has a spectacular aura aboutKillerCam251 has a spectacular aura about
Re: D17 Y8 Manifold Swap Whistling Problem

Alright Ill try some of those things out. As far as the hose for egr ive never seen anyone else do it any other way. What would you recommend instead?
Reply
Old Mar 26, 2015
  #8  
ezone's Avatar
If you think a good mechanic is expensive, try hiring a bad one
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 32,017
Likes: 256
From: Midwest. Aiming about mid-chest
Rep Power: 518
ezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond repute
Re: D17 Y8 Manifold Swap Whistling Problem

I've never seen rubber hose used in a high heat environment like that and have it survive any significant length of time, that's all.
I don't know if it will or won't in that application, I'm just sayin.

Manufacturers use metal to carry EGR gases.
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2015
  #9  
KillerCam251's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 57
Likes: 3
Rep Power: 142
KillerCam251 has a spectacular aura aboutKillerCam251 has a spectacular aura aboutKillerCam251 has a spectacular aura about
Re: D17 Y8 Manifold Swap Whistling Problem

Did a smoke test, no leaks at all. Other tests to do with the engine running are getting hard to do. The sound only lasts for like 5 seconds now and goes away.
Reply
Old Apr 12, 2015
  #10  
KillerCam251's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 57
Likes: 3
Rep Power: 142
KillerCam251 has a spectacular aura aboutKillerCam251 has a spectacular aura aboutKillerCam251 has a spectacular aura about
Re: D17 Y8 Manifold Swap Whistling Problem

so Ezone you were exactly right, pictured below my dumbass forgot to cut a spot out on the TB gasket for the new IACV port and it probably had maybe 1-2mm of space to pull idle air from causing the reed whistle effect as you had mentioned. Took the whole manifold off and am gonna clean it up some more and add a new properly cut gasket. Also the lines for the EGR still look great so hopefully they keep holding up.

Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Honda Civic Forum
Replies
Last Post
KAMIKAZEEx
7th Generation Civic 2001 - 2005
6
Aug 30, 2015 08:30 AM
DhRacingJosh
Engine Swaps
326
May 7, 2004 12:32 PM
civicstreetrcr
Engine Swaps
15
Mar 19, 2004 10:46 PM
CK12k
General Honda Civic Forum Archive.
22
Mar 21, 2003 09:39 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:51 PM.