Put wrong tranny fluid in

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May 16, 2012
  #31  
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well thanks alot pj for noting.. i told u it was a automatic.. well i was dumb enough to listen to u.. but anyways i drained the fluid just now and the plug had alot of gunk on it like black grease maybe
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May 17, 2012
  #32  
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it makes a wierd winding noise at all speed but under 20mph i hardly hear it but its still ther.the noise doesnt shift just kinda speeds up when i go faster ... it shifts good now and speeds up normally.. but when i let go of the gas the car kinda slows down more then usual.. and when i brake and slow down the noise slows a bit down and quiets
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May 17, 2012
  #33  
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Quote: but anyways i drained the fluid just now and the plug had alot of gunk on it like black grease maybe
Magnetic material. Usually it comes from the frictions of the clutches (if there are no large solids).
Depending on the mileage and history, it can be normal, maybe not.

If you had it all cleaned off when you were flushing the fluid earlier, and NOW it is large and fuzzy again, then something probably let go.

Friction material wear due to slippage.


HTH
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May 18, 2012
  #34  
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Quote: well thanks alot pj for noting.. i told u it was a automatic.. well i was dumb enough to listen to u.. but anyways i drained the fluid just now and the plug had alot of gunk on it like black grease maybe

you are a ridiculous person, when the hell did i say i recommended that for a manual transmission!??? only automatics have clutch packs and valve bodies, which was what i was referring to about the glazing and sticking valves in my other posts. It worked for me in the past, and not for you sorry that happened but like others have said your transmission was already bad and this could have helped. that black crud that you drained was the seafoam treatment working. thats the **** was possibly making your transmission slip, OR your transmission could have just been at the point of needing a rebuild. people give suggestions and this stuff does work as it has for me, just because if didn't magically fix your broken trans does not mean i steered you wrong or you were stupid for trying it. I also said to only add it for a short amount of time and then drain it so drive with it in there for a bit then flush it out did u do that?
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May 19, 2012
  #35  
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ok whats the difference between a 2001 lx transmission and 2001 ex transmission.. im going to buy a rebuilt trans and i dont want to buy the ex trans so how could i tell if it is the lx trans?
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May 21, 2012
  #36  
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i just put in a new rebuilt transmission.. everytihng seems ok but one thing! i think it could be bad wheel barrings but i am not sure?.. ok it make the same whining noise as i was saying before i changed the transmission.. now the problem is in the first gear the car dragsssss it doesnt want to go as if its pulling alot of weight.. when it hits second gear it does the same and then i feel like slight pressure releasing and then it is kind ok.. sometimes it drags in all speed and the speed slows down fast when i let go of the gas.. and when i do brake from high speeds to lower i could hear the whining get a bit louder.
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May 21, 2012
  #37  
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Ok, there may be a gear ratio difference between EX and LX/DX. I'm not positive tho...

Noises, diag as a new issue.
Wheel bearings? Swerve left/right, see if the noise changes with different side-loading.
Raise the car in the air, run the wheels at 45-60 or wherever the noise was loudest......stethoscope the knuckles, listen for bearing noise.

Dragging in first gear ain't right. Where did you get the trans?
Make sure is isn't something like dragging brakes.

Let me ask this:
Did the cooler inside the radiator get flushed?
Did an external filter get installed in the cooler lines to protect the new trans?

Debris that would have been trapped inside the cooler can ruin your new trans in a matter of seconds.
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May 21, 2012
  #38  
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yea ther is a ratio difference in the lx n ex..i checked the serial number on the rebuilt trans and the same first 4 letters as mine.. and its shifts good.. the noise was ther before my last trans went out. so i dont think its has to do with the trans i hope not.. just now i was on a stop light when i took my foot off the pedal the car wouldnt move, until i gave it gas and started to dragg. after second gear it kinda seemed to get a bit release..i could feel the release kind of ..

. it could possibly be brakes but theyre isnt much heat coming from the brakes as if they were rubbing against the rotors. im sure it would have a lot of heat coming out because of a friends car he had that problem and would cause a lot of heat.. i will drive it more tomorrow and give u guys a update.. any help would be appreciated lol i just spent over 1000 dollars.. cant spend much more..

i also lifted the car and i can rotate the tire all the way around and i dont feel as it is rubbing or grinding
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May 21, 2012
  #39  
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Quote: foot off the pedal the car wouldnt move, until i gave it gas and started to dragg.



just spent over 1000 dollars.. cant spend much more..

I hope it has a great warranty. Dragging in gear certainly ain't right.

Smell the fluid.
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May 21, 2012
  #40  
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Quote: I hope it has a great warranty. Dragging in gear certainly ain't right.

Smell the fluid.
ya has a 6month warranty... umm ya its weird i dont know if its a dragg or what but when i push gas its hard for it to move as something was holding it down...

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when i lifted i could spin the wheels.. what kind of smell should i be smelling?
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May 21, 2012
  #41  
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You made mention of this, so it MUST be something significant.

IF it is truly dragging because of some internal trans problem, if it isn't stuck in a higher gear, then it should be trying to apply more than one gear (clutch) at once. The slipping one will wear rapidly, and probably leave a burned smell to the fluid. Anyone that has smelled a roasted trans will know what the smell is.


Drop the shifter into low gear and see what it does. Does the car roll normally, or does it lock up?
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May 22, 2012
  #42  
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Quote: You made mention of this, so it MUST be something significant.

IF it is truly dragging because of some internal trans problem, if it isn't stuck in a higher gear, then it should be trying to apply more than one gear (clutch) at once. The slipping one will wear rapidly, and probably leave a burned smell to the fluid. Anyone that has smelled a roasted trans will know what the smell is.


Drop the shifter into low gear and see what it does. Does the car roll normally, or does it lock up?

the car does not roll up normally it kinda stays ther.. sometimes it will roll but still drag when i push the gas.. i will drop it to a lower gear tomorrow again.. i did it today and it acted the same...
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May 22, 2012
  #43  
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Quote: the car does not roll up normally it kinda stays ther.. sometimes it will roll but still drag when i push the gas
This ain't right.
Sounds like you still need a trans.
Did a shop install it?
Take it back.
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May 23, 2012
  #44  
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Ok this is weird just while I was waiting on the light to turn green
. I decided to pull the hand brake up and so I did the hand brake was very hard to pull. As if it didn't want to pull. And when i did I could hear the back brakes squeezing togethrr But when I pushed the foot brake the hand brake was very easy to pull.
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May 23, 2012
  #45  
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sounds like its already clamping the rear brakes a bit. next time you drive from a cold stop, try not to use the brakes. then find a place where the car is moving slowly like under 25mph and press the brake pedal. quickly go out and feel the rear drums. if they are mostly cool, then its fine. but if they are very hot, you have sticking shoes.
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May 23, 2012
  #46  
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Quote: sounds like its already clamping the rear brakes a bit. next time you drive from a cold stop, try not to use the brakes. then find a place where the car is moving slowly like under 25mph and press the brake pedal. quickly go out and feel the rear drums. if they are mostly cool, then its fine. but if they are very hot, you have sticking shoes.
Hmm what do u mean drive from a cold stop? and wats the cause of sticking brakes? N how to deal wit it . Wud it have my car drag as I been saying?
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May 23, 2012
  #47  
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Yes it would cause your car to drag.

Take off the wheels and spind the rear drums with the emergency brake off. If they dont spin then you have a problem with the drum/wheel cylinders or pads themself.

The drums should spin with moderate resistance.
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May 23, 2012
  #48  
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ok i lifted the car up. i took the back tire of and i could easily move the drum on both sides.. i check the hand brake it was still very hard to pull.. and when i pulled it to check if the drum would stop spinning and it did stop.. i dont know what it could possibly be?
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May 23, 2012
  #49  
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you should be able to pull off that console cover (stick hand in the folding pocket and pull up) to check whats going on with the ebrake cables. maybe stuck or not adjusted properly. it should pull up about 7 clicks and get harder the higher you go.
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May 23, 2012
  #50  
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Does the car drag differently when in neutral?
I don't know what parts of the transmission stop turning when in this mode but from your results maybe others can tell you what's up.
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May 23, 2012
  #51  
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Quote: ok i lifted the car up. i took the back tire of and i could easily move the drum on both sides.. i check the hand brake it was still very hard to pull.. and when i pulled it to check if the drum would stop spinning and it did stop.. i dont know what it could possibly be?
I am thinking you have a different problem then.

Like the other guy said does it still drag in neutral?
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May 24, 2012
  #52  
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Quote: I am thinking you have a different problem then.

Like the other guy said does it still drag in neutral?

ok yea the trans is no good... everytime i put it drive now it wont go in first gear or start going crazy like jumping.. so i star it with 2nd gear sometimes it go but then it will start slipping n not shift into gear especially went its hot.. check engline light came on last time that happen trans went out.. how do i check codes? i wonder if i could drive it 100 miles to the place where i got the trans lol
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Jun 6, 2012
  #53  
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ok here are the updates on the car.. the trans went out,, so i had the guy that had rebuilt the trans put another rebuilt trans in and so he did... ok now i still have some problems with the transmission.. maybe it could be the transmission mount.. once i turn the car on when cold. i start to drive and from 1st to 2nd gear i feel a small vibration along when its shifting.. thn from 2nd to 3rd it kinda jolts to 3rd...


other then that i am still hearing the noise maybe it could be my wheel bearings, but non of the tires where moving side to side or anything..
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Jun 6, 2012
  #54  
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well assuming the guy did a perfect install (i doubt it), the new trans has the same problem as the old one. honda never fixed the defects from 01-05 years. so not sure why you thought another trans would somehow fix the problems. in another few months or sooner im sure you will be back in the shop getting a third one put in.
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Jun 6, 2012
  #55  
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Wonder if these are "used" units. (Spray-and-Pray.)
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Jun 6, 2012
  #56  
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Is the noise a humming that increases/decreases with speed? Never goes away?

When my wheel bearing was bad and my wheel wasn't loose, the only symptom I had was a humming noise, sounded like an off-road truck tire.

After I fixed it I noticed my steering wheel was straight again. It had been slightly to the right for a year+ and no alignment fixed it so the wheel bearing had failed some time before.
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Mar 18, 2013
  #57  
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Quote: Is the noise a humming that increases/decreases with speed? Never goes away?

When my wheel bearing was bad and my wheel wasn't loose, the only symptom I had was a humming noise, sounded like an off-road truck tire.

After I fixed it I noticed my steering wheel was straight again. It had been slightly to the right for a year+ and no alignment fixed it so the wheel bearing had failed some time before.
Hey all! here is a update on my civic.. the transmission seems to be ok. i have put over 5thousand miles on it and seems ok.. the problem i still have is that its makes a humming sound still. it seems like its coming from the front driver side?

i jacked up the car yesterday to see if the tire wiggle but it doesnt. one thing i noticed is when i am driving on the freeway and exiting the freeway to a off ramp that goes right the humming gets a bit deeper? oh and i did get a alignment a few months ago done but it didnt seem to help because the steering is still a bit off
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Mar 18, 2013
  #58  
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i am driving on the freeway and exiting the freeway to a off ramp that goes right the humming gets a bit deeper?
Gets louder and quieter as you swerve (putting a side load on the bearing), that describes a wheel bearing.

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oh and i did get a alignment a few months ago done but it didnt seem to help because the steering is still a bit off
Someone was lazy and didn't test drive it to make sure it was "right"?

It will need aligned again when the wheel bearing is replaced since the knuckle has to come off the car.
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Mar 18, 2013
  #59  
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Quote: ok.. the problem i still have is that its makes a humming sound still. it seems like its coming from the front driver side?

i jacked up the car yesterday to see if the tire wiggle but it doesnt. one thing i noticed is when i am driving on the freeway and exiting the freeway to a off ramp that goes right the humming gets a bit deeper? oh and i did get a alignment a few months ago done but it didnt seem to help because the steering is still a bit off
definitely a wheel bearing
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Mar 29, 2013
  #60  
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Quote: well assuming the guy did a perfect install (i doubt it), the new trans has the same problem as the old one. honda never fixed the defects from 01-05 years. so not sure why you thought another trans would somehow fix the problems. in another few months or sooner im sure you will be back in the shop getting a third one put in.

I am on my 3rd Transmission already. lol
Now i am wondering when exactly is it ideal to change tranny fluid?
I c very similar symptoms described by OP especially dragging into first gear. Its been 7k mi since tranny rebuilt and putting it into first gear after starting the car is hard but once in gear the dragging from 1st gear to second is longer and longer.(little less than football field from either ends).
I hear noises when putting brakes on at signal lights & it seems to be a common issue upon re-builts
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