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I know that there are a lot of people on this site that are having as many problems with their Civic as I am. I am in the process of suing American Honda for the lemon they sold me but, I think if all of us that have problems with their cars got together maybe Honda may actually be willing to stand behind their products. I am just kinda taking a poll to see how many people would want to be included in the class for the suit before I go talk to the lawyer. I have a friend that does a lot of class action suits and if I got enough people and enough of a case going I'm sure he would represent us. So just let me know what you think and if you would be intrested in becoming part of the class. To all of you that got lucky enough to get a car from Honda that has a few less problems more power to you but if anyone feels the same way I do please let me know.

 
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me and my brother would be. we have had so many 2k1 civic promblems that we can count. Just e-mail me for more information. mirroredimages@aol.com. Thanks for the post. Finally someone with as much problems as we have had.

 
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LOL, how old are you? 17, 18. Every car company has problems, EVEN HONDA. But there cars dont have as many as say a Ford or a Chevy would. Do you see people going out and suing them, NO. Your never going to find enough people that have lemon cars to go in with you because there arent that many Honda lemon cars out there. And, Im having a hard time a lawyer told you this, because Im sure that he/she would also know that it would never work.

 
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First of all, did you check with your county's DA office about the lemon laws? Here in Cali, if the dealer can't fix your car's problem (3 times) within a period of time (I think it's a month here) the dealer is supposed to refund you your money back. I dunno what your problem is or how you took action against it, but before you go up to big daddy Honda, you better get through to their bratty dealers by going to the DA's office.

 
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LOL[IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

 
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Yeah, I feel sorry for him, too... you can't just go up to Honda like that and sue. At least write to Honda about your concerns, sheesh. Your chances of winning against Honda in court are about the same as Derek giving away free 7thGenCivic.com stickers to the peeps on this site. You've gotta take lil' steps crossing their path, big man. You'd be better off totalling the car and having insurance buy you a new car (if you've got full coverage.)

 
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umm no i don't think so. If you have a problem with your car, you need to deal with it. Have you ever owned a ford POS? You should get rid of your honda and go buy a ford, then you'll really be complaining.

 
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what is your complaint, or whatever reason you are trying to sue Honda for?
Cause you got a "lemon" car??
That wont get you very far??

 
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If the dealer won't resolve your issues, talk to the owner of the dealer. If that doesn't work, get in contact with the honda corporate manager for your region of the company. If the car just keeps having problems, sell it. Check the laws in your state and see if you meet the criteria. Your chances of winning a suit aganst honda corporate lawyer are about as good as getting struck by lightning while being eaten by a shark. Give the corporate people enough heck and eventually you will probably get a resolution. Ultimately, it would just be easier and more practical to sell the thing.

I have owned 5 hondas in the past and quite simply, it would be hard for me to buy from any other manufacturer. Well, acura...LOL

 
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nope im happy with my honda. ive only had troubles with it cuz i beat it up already but it still runs and purr's like its new
hahaha
i wouldnt support this sue HONDA lawsuit!!!

 
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I have owned 5 Hondas in my lifetime and have not had ANY unexpected problems with any of them...complain to your dealer or locally...like they said even Honda's not perfect but they put out way more good apples than bad...so tough **** 4 u

 
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You'll lose for sure, because your modding your car, and the jury or judge would never take your side since you are change THE CAR that honda sold you stock.

 
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What if you total your car and your airbags do not deploy and you break your back?????????Huh, because that happened to my brother last night...

 
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Well **** in that case you have a damn good case. Sorry to hear about that man.

 
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Man, thats tuff. I hope your bro is ok...

 
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<< What if you total your car and your airbags do not deploy and you break your back?????????Huh, because that happened to my brother last night... >>



You would have to prove that his injury could have been prevented by the airbags or his injury occurred as a direct result of them not deploying. I don't think you could do it. Airbags are there to protect your head and chest and to facilitate the seat belt. Sounds like he was going terribly fast and is lucky to be alive to have an injury of that nature. Hope he gets well and everything turns out ok.

 
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Been there done that, (not a lawsuit), mainly because you will lose, I think they have a little more money than you do (better lawyers, all I have to say is OJ). Anyway if you are having major REPEATED problems (not stupid little ones,) then you can try arbitration. Every state is different on their laws about this so check with your local bar association, they can give you free advice on what to do. Worst case scenario (and most likely) is, you bend over and trade your car in.
Chris

 
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<< What if you total your car and your airbags do not deploy and you break your back?????????Huh, because that happened to my brother last night... >>


Check the thread you made about the accident. I posted in it. Otherwise for everyone else's concern about the airbags, click here.

 
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1. I'm not a guy.

2. I'm not like 17 or 18.

3. I have already gone round and round with the dealership I bought the car from, the owner of that dealership, 2 other local dealerships, the sales manager, service manager, general manager, zone manager, the service manager of the other two dealerships and I don't know how many people on that stupid customer service line.

4. I have done my home work on the lemon law in the state of California. They have 2 times to fix a car that is in for a safety issue ie. the brakes, tranny, speedometer, cv boot, front ball joint, front knuckle bearing, the SRS sensor, alternator, and then there were a few other minor things that I'm not to terribly concerned with. When the dealership knows there is something wrong with your car but refuses to fix it then you can come talk to me.

5. Arbitration has nothing to do with the state wide lemon laws. You gain damn near nothing by filing an arbitration. In an arbitration all you gain is getting rid of the car you bought. An arbitration is when you sit down with a "neutral" (that's a crock of ****) party and figure out what is best for both parties involved (rather what is best for the car manufacturer). Also as far as I know when you file an arbitration the car will not have a salvage title on it. When you file a lawsuit it is a California state law that the vin number be flagged as a lemon.

6. Like I already said for those of you that have a car that doesn't give you to many problems more power to you but for the rest of us I would like to know who would be intrested in a suit.

7. As far as modding the car is concerned American Honda would have to prove that the problem with the car is a DIRECT effect of the mods.

8. I am not an idiot I know what the hell I'm talking about!!!!

 
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<< What if you total your car and your airbags do not deploy and you break your back?????????Huh, because that happened to my brother last night... >>



You would have to prove that his injury could have been prevented by the airbags or his injury occurred as a direct result of them not deploying. I don't think you could do it. Airbags are there to protect your head and chest and to facilitate the seat belt. Sounds like he was going terribly fast and is lucky to be alive to have an injury of that nature. Hope he gets well and everything turns out ok. >>



he is correct...airbags only deploy under certain conditions - they are "Supplemental" and your seat belts are your first line of defense. Just cuz your airbags didnt go off dosnt mean the system wasnt working and can sue...like he said you need proof your system was damaged, non working or in that accident you needed the airbag

 
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<< 4. I have done my home work on the lemon law in the state of California. They have 2 times to fix a car that is in for a safety issue ie. the brakes, tranny, speedometer, cv boot, front ball joint, front knuckle bearing, the SRS sensor, alternator, and then there were a few other minor things that I'm not to terribly concerned with. When the dealership knows there is something wrong with your car but refuses to fix it then you can come talk to me. >>


Get your money back. If they won't do that, then I say it's time to take the dealer to court. You'll have a better chance winning. Sorry, miss... about your car. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-blush.gif[/IMG] Your problem seems to be with the dealer, not Honda of America. You should get your money back from the DEALER and as far as I know, that's the law.

 
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2cute, how old are you and are you the one communicating with the people you have contacted? If you are under 25, especially if you are a teenager, they will never take you seriously. I am curious to know.

 
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i still saw no where in this post the problems concerning your honda, that would help.
I for one have had no major issues with my 2k1, though numerous very minor issues that bother me i do have, all fixable.

I have owned 4 hondas now and only 1 major issue, my 97 delsol vtec having a blown syncro mesh after 3 months, which was fixed promptly at no charge. and same car, after being stolen, and the dealership unable to fix the car in a reasonable amount of time back top original condition, they bought the car from me. So personally I have had nothing but the best service from MOST dealships sans TandT honda in Calgary (they SUCK and rip you off, at least me, and my parents a a couple friends of mine)

to do a class action suit, it would help to know what defect we are talking about, and why honda has refused to fix the problem.
if you go in with a crappy attitude, they will return the crappy attitude. With sugar and spice, they will bend over backwards to make you a happy camper in 99% of the cases.

 
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<< What if you total your car and your airbags do not deploy and you break your back?????????Huh, because that happened to my brother last night... >>



It would also depend on where the car was hit. Read your srs manuel.

 
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omg, this is exactly why we have lemon laws GEEZ!

 
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Ummm I'm curious 2cute. What problems have you had?? and has your car been modified?? I will bet that some of the problems you're have might be a result of modifacations not done by Honda, there for you already voided your warrenty. Sorry but any car isn't designed by a manufacture to upgrade the intake system, brakes, and even wheels. I think your out of luck.[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-frown.gif[/IMG]

 
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My tranny was popping out of second gear i called the dealership and they told me i had bent the shift forks and that was due to forcing the car into gear (mind you they hadn't even looked at the car). Three different dealerships did not know about the service bullitin and told me regardless of the bullitin they would have to reproduce the problem. Dealership couldn't find the service bullitin once again suprise right. I gave them the TSB # and that was when they told me they had to reproduce the problem. I called the customer service after they sent me home they sent me back to the dealership. That got me absolutly no where what a suprise. Called the zone manager they told me to call the customer service I told them i already had they said well call again. So i did spoke to one of the managers and he told me there were no reclamations on my car. I told him i had one sitting right in front of me he continued to tell me that there were no reclemations on my car. Once again i was sent back to the dealership what a suprise no one wants to do their jobs. Around the same time my alternator went out i took it to the dealership and they told me it was going to be $65 to look at my car. I told them it was under warrenty the service writer kept trying to fight me on it finally got pissed and talked to the service manager he finally told them it was free. They had my car for 3 days didn't touch it the first day shock and amazement they wouldn't give me a loaner car i got iy back anf 8 am the next morining i had CV grease all over my rims they damaged the cv boot. The FACTORY brakes were gone at 5,000 miles I DID NOT UPGRADE THE BRAKES!!!!! They said that isn't a manufacturer defect mmm....... WRONG!!!!!! The SRS light went on and wouldn't go off they actually fixed that prolblem without trying to weasel their way outta that one. The speedo read 40 mph under what it should have for a while and there are times i'll be sitting at 70 mph and it will quickly drop to 30 mph and pop back up they once again said can't reproduce the problem there fore we won't fix it. I have been to the dealership more than twice for the tranny it was more like 6 and the brakes like 4 or 5. Like i said cali lemon law says if a car is in more than twice for a safety issue i.e. the tranny, brakes, speedo, cv boot hhhmmmm what else it is a lemon. MY CAR IS A LEMON!!!! Whether you all want to agree with that that's your own tuff ****. I didn't put this post for people to give me **** I legitimatly wanted to know if i was alone in despising Honda.

 
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<< Whether you all want to agree with that that's your own tuff ****. I didn't put this post for people to give me **** I legitimatly wanted to know if i was alone in despising Honda. >>


You are.

 
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Fellas, quit giving 2cute the 3rd degree. 2cute is right in what she is saying. The issue at hand is whether or not other members are in a similar predicement as 2cute is in, and whether other members is willing or is in a position to get into a class action suit. Need I remind you that a class action suit is better that 1 vs. corporate?

If you are not in that position, than you don't have to add salt to injury or even have to as 2cute to explain. Age, sex, religous belief, nor weight has anything to do with car, dealer, Honda.

As for me, I have no major problems except for the tranny double engaging or a delay in engaging when I shift to D. I haven't taken it to the dealer yet, but I will soon. What I have been told by other members here is that it is due to a bad or weak torque converter. As a matter of fact, the roll back is quite severe on a slight incline. And b/c I haven't taken the matter to dealer service, I am in no position to take part in your class action case.

 
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2cute = erin brockovich wannabe?