cannonfolder

Today I just got back from the dealer because of a pinging noise in my motor when car is under force(does not ping when car is parked and reving it).They said they don't know what the problem is so they can't do anything about it.I am $hit out of luck because I have 99 500kms(canadian)on my car and the warranty ends at 100 000.the dealer said it's because of the fuel i put in,they said to try a higher octane.I think it's crap because i always put regular in it since i bought it so I dought that's the problem.I never go to the dealer for my oil changes and service,do u think they will refuse? So if I decide to drain my oil and rev my car to blow it do u think the dealer would refuse to change it after being at the dealer so recent? Is that a good way to blow the engine? thanks for ur help guys!

MAX_NO_KIHON

do you have any mods that would cause your compresson to go up?

cannonfolder

No, just a k&n air filter that i installed a week ago.The noise was there before that.

02BLKCIVIC

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You can put bleach in the motor!

Saw it on myth busters!

Blew up the engine in minuets!

Boilermaker1

iTrader: (16)

Neutral, with a brick on the gas. Come back in 10 minutes.

cannonfolder

I'm serious guys,do u think the dealer will give me any problems about changing the motor?

02BLKCIVIC

iTrader: (8)

I dono!

Spoolin

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make sure to take a video fo you blowing it up. i want to see this. do like the other dude said and put a brick ont he gas and let it rev, and if you want to make things go faster, drain your coolant first.

civic01vtec

iTrader: (20)

I can't believe that I am actually reading this thread.

scansel912

iTrader: (4)

Go about 50 down a deserted road, and throw it into first.

cannonfolder

scansel912,I like your idea the best because I was thinking if I drain the oil and rev it high the dealer will suspect something cause the engine would be ciesed.

streetglower

iTrader: (13)

can the dealer or a tech at the dealer here the noise? Plain and simple!!!!

If he/she can, then there is no reason why they say they cant do anything. thats bullshit. if they can hear it, then leave it at the dealer untill someone can figure out what the problem is. I understand that some problems are damn near hard as hell to figure out, but there are techs out there who have been in the field for decades and have the knowledge to diagnosis engine issues. And if a problem cant be figured out by a tech, shop foreman, master tech, etc... and all diagnostic steps have been exhausted, then they can ask for a tech specialist to come and help.

Now you have a different case if they cant hear the problem. In that case they may tell you to return when the problem is noticeable.

cannonfolder

yes they did hear it,it was the forman of the service department who told me that they can't do anything. I also told him it was consuming a lot of oil.He wanted me to go on a oil consumption schedule,meaning every week I have to head to the dealer so they can verify my consumption,problem is I'm 500kms away from 100 000 so that means no warranty.

teg91ls

Can pinging be caused by over heating also? maybe something is wrong with your cooling system

streetglower

iTrader: (13)

thats bullshit. If anyone, a shop foreman would be the last person to ever say they couldnt do anything. He should have more knowledge then most techs at the dealership. Most shop foremans have years and years of hands on experience and should be someone a tech would go to in the dealer if they have a problem with a car. Most shops foremans I have ever listened to and have experience around are damn smart. That one must be stupid.

I would go to a different dealer or contact honda corporation.

Boilermaker1

iTrader: (16)

I'd call Honda corporate... my guess is they smell money being this close to the end of the warranty, they want you to kill the warranty, then blow it so they can clean you out. If you call honda, make sure its at least established that this problem began under warranty, so that if it blows shortly after, you have something to go off of in the event you need to sue them.

TheSmuggler

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Yeap, time to go to corperate Honda.

cannonfolder

thanks guys, I think thats what I'll do

ctx66

My thoughts as well.

cannonfolder

ctx66,If you don't like it then don't waste ur time replying

ctx66

Dude, take a step back and look at how this thread looks.

I hear a noise coming from my engine. I have no idea what the noise is.

So since i hear this noise, i think my engine might be about to go.

Since my warranty is about to run out, i want to blow my engine. help me destroy my engine.

What on earth makes you think your engine is about to go? You have a honda motor with 99kms. The noise could be anything.

If you do decide to blow your motor, and honda says you're SOL, what are you going to do then? Thats a lot of money, all because you heard a noise coming from your engine.

exdubber

Had the same problem in the hot weather, only did to me when its extremly warm. I work for an infinity Nissan dealer in ottawa, and we tell people the same thing. Try one grade up to 89, it went away for me. It was worse when i had my intake on. Not as much with the airbaox back on

65Coronet440

Sounds like bad gas to me.

Are you filling up at the same station each time? I wonder if the high temp's have caused the station's tank to get humid and moisture getting into the fuel? Or, just plain crappy fuel. Try a different station if you haven't already.

Also, go to the parts store and buy some moisture inhibiting fuel additive and throw that in.

Pinging is possibly caused by bad gas, lower octane rating than the engine needs (high compression engines), engine running HOT/lean, need of a tune up/the ignition out of time.

Do a google search on engine pinging, I'm sure you'll get a ton of info.

Don't be stupid and try to blow your engine, thats just a dumb way to cause a bigger headache than you already have (which isn't a big problem right now). If you do want to blow it, drain out all the water and oil and run it full out. Then we'll all laugh when they take the motor apart and find how it blew and deny your warranty. Pinging over time causes your pistons to basically melt, blowing it by over-reving won't do that.

Pinging causes failures like this:

http://www-cms.llnl.gov/featured_sci_images/piston.jpg

TheSmuggler

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*looks for video of the guys who tried to blow up the honda motor with no oil and couldent*

DiverseCC

id go to honda corp, and try better gas and all that, and have another shop look at it, if i wanted mine to go, i shave a few teeth off the timing belt, and beat on it

Powershift

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Dude! just Call Honda and tell em that the tech at the dealers cant fugure it out!

They will help you!

But Blowing your Engine is a dumb idea imo!

drunkenmagnum

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'a friend of mine actually did this with his SS camaro and it took like thirty minutes. but when it went, it grenaded! probably the most balsy thing i have ever seen anyone do except....

a friend did this in his jeep and i had no idea that a transmission could come apart into so many different pieces.

wont kill the eninge though b/c of the rev limiter, it will usually keep it in check and tires will lock up.

ajhdragon

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200 shot would be amazingly fun

greeen01civic4d

iTrader: (7)

well, first off, make sure the problem has been documented at the dealership, saying that the problem started before the warranty is up, and do what they want you to do, and when they say that the car is out of warranty, and say they wont do anything, or are going to charge you, the problem started while under warranty, and should still be covered, if not, call honda america, i called them on a dealership last week, and i gaurantee they will do something about it.

boricua_civic

TNT...pshhhhhh puffffff