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Old Feb 6, 2006
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Yup like it says shes toast. I went and picked up an 02 sensor today because i had a code read yesterday that said 02 sensor i also picked up the 02 mechinical sim from being bored at the shop. Then on the way home i hear a knock. I figured i'd get it home then mess with it. Well it didnt make it. The knock got horrible within minutes and i knew it was bad. Very quickly it lost power and got really bad. As im forcing it to get home it gets very loud and apparent that the motor is toasted. Half a mile from my house she took her last breath and exhaled it from the cylinder closest to the alternator. I wanted to swap a k20a2 in a year when i had the money. Now im pissed because i only have enough to put the same lame d17a2 back in. So now im on the lookout for a used d17A2. Also i think this was due to a bad oil pump. questions and comments welcome. Also any info on where i can get a cheap motor would be appreciated
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why was it knocking?
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ebay. 500 bucks. if the oil pump failed, take it to honda. free fix
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ebay. 500 bucks. if the oil pump failed, take it to honda. free fix
are you serious. the oil pump did fail thats the only conclusion ive come too. its a big mess man. all this happened within one hour. how do i find out if honda will fix this?
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are you serious. the oil pump did fail thats the only conclusion ive come too. its a big mess man. all this happened within one hour. how do i find out if honda will fix this?
idk. do you still have a warranty? how old is the car/ how many miles. oil pump failure is a factory thing. nothing you did wrong. just make sure thats what it is.
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well if you're under warranty i don't see why not. another great example of honda reliability yay.
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well if you're under warranty i don't see why not. another great example of honda reliability yay.
what gearbox means to say is "its your fault"
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you will join the dark side soon. something WILL go wrong with your car and you'll have a nice small place in the vehicle problems home. face it, this car has so many factory defects i'm surprised i lasted the 2 years that i did without a problem.
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you will join the dark side soon. something WILL go wrong with your car and you'll have a nice small place in the vehicle problems home. face it, this car has so many factory defects i'm surprised i lasted the 2 years that i did without a problem.
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you will join the dark side soon. something WILL go wrong with your car and you'll have a nice small place in the vehicle problems home. face it, this car has so many factory defects i'm surprised i lasted the 2 years that i did without a problem.
Yeah man i hear you on that. I never saw this coming i was gonna order a vafc2 this week... anyway. I bought this car used. when i baught it, it had the 10 year 100,000 mile warranty well i just looked at it and it has another persons name on it. so i called the people who i baught the car from and asked them wtf was up. They told me that they just sold the car and i have to call honda. So i called honda and told them that my car had a warranty under the first buyer im the second. They were cool and told me to fax them a copy of the warranty and my registration so im gonna do that tommorow. Then they told me only certain parts will be cover under me. Hopefully the major things will be covered, like the huge hole in the motor from honda's faulty oil pump. I sold my integra to avoid this same situation, it irony at it's finest... oh btw my car has 84,000 miles and other than it blowing up today ive only had to buy oil and brake pads. Its a shame, no warning at all click click boom.
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they should get you.
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what year/model was it?
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lmaooooo pos honda man, everything is ****ing up on these cars...

tranny
engine....

2 most important things and they are the most that fk up.....sad.
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what year/model was it?
Its an 01 ex. The only mods are megan headers and custom catback with a AEMv2.
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lmaooooo pos honda man, everything is ****ing up on these cars...

tranny
engine....

2 most important things and they are the most that fk up.....sad.
Yeah man it is sad. And this dumb **** only seems to be common with SOHC honda. I had two integra 2nd gens before this car both had 200,000 miles and they saw 10 times the a$$ kicking that this civic got. I'll never buy sohc honda again... But on a good note i just got off the phone with Honda America and they have to fix it 84,000 and soon to be on life #2... Plus income tax put 1000 in the k fund. With honda fixing my car i can leave that money and in a year i'll have enough to throw this d17a2 in the river
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I hope Honda will fix you car all right. However, keep in mind that you have mod your car. They might say something after they pop you hood. Is it possible for you to remove all the mod before you go to Honda? Just an advise. I know there is another car manufacturer decline the warranty after the job was done because he got an aftermarket intake.
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I hope Honda will fix you car all right. However, keep in mind that you have mod your car. They might say something after they pop you hood. Is it possible for you to remove all the mod before you go to Honda? Just an advise. I know there is another car manufacturer decline the warranty after the job was done because he got an aftermarket intake.
Oh... absolutely put everything stock before they see it. Or you WILL get stuck with the bill.
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ya since intakes cause oil to be sucked out of the pump too fast. also the header makes exhaust gases flow too fast which can be very hard on the oil pump as well.
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ya since intakes cause oil to be sucked out of the pump too fast. also the header makes exhaust gases flow too fast which can be very hard on the oil pump as well.
STOP IT!!!
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why? you know thats what they'll say. the reason my dealer mechanic didn't tighten my plugs or fill the oil up was due to my aftermarket exhaust being present. i'm not exactly sure, but i think the exhaust causes a greater vacuum that pulls in the plugs so there is no need to tighten them. also the oil can be low since there isn't as much backpressure so the motor doesn't need as much to work properly.
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Gear, that's pure BS. Where the hell did you hear that one?? Oh man.... and I thought after 20 years of wrenching I heard it all. Oh GOD....

But the point is, that ANY modifications on the engine will instantly be blamed for the failure and warranty void. I'm sure they have seminars at the dealers to look for ANY excuse to avoid honoring warranties. So we have to play their games. Go stock, and don't forget to remove that heavy pine tree air freshener from the mirror. It could be considered an "aftermarket" part.
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yup strip the car bare. and even then i've heard of cases where they just blame it on the way you drive.
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and i've heard of them replacing super low mileage motors blown from overrevving and other user error... you see what you want to both ways.
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and i've heard of them replacing super low mileage motors blown from overrevving and other user error... you see what you want to both ways.
yep. some guy on this forum had it done.
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well the thing is my car blew up a mile away from my house. I had it towed to honda yesterday. They know its modded but. In order for them to deny warranty dont they have to prove that those mods played a part in the blowing of the motor. A header and intake wont blow your car up. me beating the **** out of it blew it up. they have an estimator going down there today to check out the damages. also when i blew it up the hole is in front and back of the motor, its ugly. The service manager said hes never seen anything like it.
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uh beating on it shouldn't blow the engine unless you went over the redline.
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Good 'ol Honda!! Tales like this make me appreciate German over-engineering and excellent service.
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