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Old Nov 18, 2005
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transmission problem - $2,450 - wtf?

here's the deal. i failed my emmission test for the following reasons:

P1298 - Manufacturer specific code
P0740 - Torque converter clutch circuit

i looked up the codes on this thread
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=182026
for both post#1 and #9

P0740 Torque Converter Clutch Circuit Malfunction
P0740 Problem in Lock-up Control System

P1298 Electrical Load Detector Circuit High Input
P1298 Electric Load Detector (ELD) Circuit High Voltage

anyway, i took my car to a transmission specialist and they had to take my transmission apart to find out the problem. they're telling me that there's something wrong with my clutch converter and that it would cost $2,450. i only have 42k miles on my car. could this really be possible?! please help me. i'm thinking if i have to spend that much money anyway, that i could just replace my engine and get a k20 (i'm not familiar with the process yet, but it costs just about $3,000 to my knowledge). what do you suggest? thanks in advance. btw, i have a 2001 lx auto.
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Welcome to the world of 7th gen transmissions. The Auto's have a flaw that by now Honda HAS to be aware of. Unfortunately, if they are, they won't admit to it. I had several conversations with a tranny shop I deal with. He knows it's a flaw, and there is an UPDATED replacement part to fix it. But it's NOT being acnowledged by Honda. You could try to hammer at Honda by means of letters, etc. These transmissions are known to fail pretty early, though there are some that have survived into the 100k mark. $2400 is outrageous for a repair, but shops have you over a barrel and know it.
Don't know what else to tell you. A good used one is much less, but could die just as soon.

This is just one of the reasons I am watching the forums for a while before I buy another Honda. All in all, I like Hondas, but the 7th gen seems to be the problem child of the line. For what it's worth, it still has FAR less problems than most other brands out there, but Honda used to be bullet proof.
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http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?t=68331

theres a k20a3 with tranny for 1300
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Originally Posted by Sujak
Im just curious but, were you forced to go to the emissions test? or did on your own free will. I live in illinios and we haven't had to take our cars to get tested since we've bought them.
yes, i was scheduled for an emission test. i've had my car since apr. 2001. thanks for everyone's reply, btw. i'm probably going to start selling some parts off of my car soon. i have a tsunami front and kaminari sides, rear and spoiler to name a few. i also have some tokico blues and neuspeed sports. don't email/pm me about them yet. i'll post it up when everything is finalized.
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Type S swap for $3100

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6678


Si swap for $900

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2505
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I have an automatic and have survived the 100k mark... My transmission is fine (not on wood) but I am looking in to upgrade my automatic transmission and I have found a Honda Torque Converter Upgrade for $965.11.

http://www.tciauto.com/sport_compact.htm

But for $2,450 is too much. But if you had to spend it I would do a swap. But it will cost more than $5,000 unless you do your own work...there are thread out there that have the almost exact cost of everything.

I can’t log in right know but that ^^ $900 dollar SI motor don't sound to bad but don't know all the details. Anyways Good Luck at whatever you do.

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Originally Posted by loki
here's the deal. i failed my emmission test for the following reasons:

P1298 - Manufacturer specific code
P0740 - Torque converter clutch circuit

i looked up the codes on this thread
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=182026
for both post#1 and #9

P0740 Torque Converter Clutch Circuit Malfunction
P0740 Problem in Lock-up Control System

P1298 Electrical Load Detector Circuit High Input
P1298 Electric Load Detector (ELD) Circuit High Voltage

anyway, i took my car to a transmission specialist and they had to take my transmission apart to find out the problem. they're telling me that there's something wrong with my clutch converter and that it would cost $2,450. i only have 42k miles on my car. could this really be possible?! please help me. i'm thinking if i have to spend that much money anyway, that i could just replace my engine and get a k20 (i'm not familiar with the process yet, but it costs just about $3,000 to my knowledge). what do you suggest? thanks in advance. btw, i have a 2001 lx auto.

Call Honda of America ASAP, most people in your situation have only had to pay around $800-$300 for a tranny rebuild. They know it's aproblem and are not recalling it, but are helping people who have problems with it. You can search around and find other that have had simliar problems and gotten help, but you may have to have it towed to Honda.
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Mines starting to slip :x Crap....
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Mines starting to slip :x Crap....

Take it to Honda, Honda of America is much more willing to help pay if the work is done at Honda. Just make sure you get the problem diagnosed, then talk to Honda of America before the actual work is done, because if Honda doesn't help you pay, take the car someplace else.
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just do either a 5-speed swap or put a new tranny in,

bought a new auto on here under 20,000 miles for 360 dollars and put it in, in a day. of course now I think I should have done a 5-speed swap for just the extra few bucks because it would have been a lot easier.
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Originally Posted by Jrfish007
Take it to Honda, Honda of America is much more willing to help pay if the work is done at Honda. Just make sure you get the problem diagnosed, then talk to Honda of America before the actual work is done, because if Honda doesn't help you pay, take the car someplace else.
Yeah well it's starting to slip because I abuse it... wonder if I can still sweet talk my way into a new one. The car's past warrenty though, 35k
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Originally Posted by TheSmuggler
Yeah well it's starting to slip because I abuse it... wonder if I can still sweet talk my way into a new one. The car's past warrenty though, 35k

past warranty, you 35k past warranty, so you have 71k miles. They will probably pay for part of it. I think it's kind of been a crap shoot for most people on here. Around 70-75k seems to be where they start paying less or paying nothing, but I would still try.
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I had my tranny built with the TCI auto master overhaull kit and the torque converter even though I got it all done for 1500 to include labor and installing my cv half shafts from drive shaft shop. Its work the money it your having issues with the automatic.
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i just called honda americas and they told me that i have to take my car to a honda dealership but even then, they're not guaranteeing any help. the thing is, my tranny is currently taken apart and it's going to cost me bout $900 just to get the shop to put it back together ($325 to take it apart) before i could even take it to a honda dealership b/c they won't work on it with the transmission taken apart. any help would be appreciated.
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LOL, no sorry, I meant I have 35k miles on it, so thats like 5k past warrenty. Actually it was the time limit, my cars an 02 =) It's getting worse now though =*(
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Originally Posted by Jrfish007
past warranty, you 35k past warranty, so you have 71k miles. They will probably pay for part of it. I think it's kind of been a crap shoot for most people on here. Around 70-75k seems to be where they start paying less or paying nothing, but I would still try.
tried changing the tranny fluid? honda's require a lot more atf changing intervals, unlike other cars which run fine with old tranny fluid for 50k+ miles. i was 200ml low for awhile and my tranny kicked and slipped. after adding a lil bit of tranny fluid in it stopped the kicks adn slips.
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Hmm maybe I'll schedule that and an alignment for tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by TheSmuggler
LOL, no sorry, I meant I have 35k miles on it, so thats like 5k past warrenty. Actually it was the time limit, my cars an 02 =) It's getting worse now though =*(

Well, then they should help you out. You may want to add some tranny fluid the like the person above mentioned, Iforgot about that. Goood point
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Yeah I scheduled an appt with honda tomorrow for an alignment and an atf fluid change. wonder ho much itl run lol
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i wouldnt be able to pay that...
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